AM BUYING NEW COMPUTER AND NEED HELP CHOOSING PARTS TO MAKE IDEAL COMPUTER FOR USING VSTS IN SONAR 7

Call Jim at Studiocat
or Scott at ADK

The intel i7 is amazingly fast and can be found in PCs under a grand that have good video cards and fast drives. Just need to add a good sound card.

Scott and FF800, just my two €-cents


Regards,
Alex

ORIGINAL: mudgel

to snouter: If only it was that simple.

to the OP. Follow the advice about giving Jim or Scott a call. Even if you don't want to buy from them they provide consultation (fee based) that will save you bucks in the long run.

It is that simple?...

I built my i7 computer about 2 months ago and I havnt had any problems with it.

No offense, but people here tend to suggest spending money for someone else to build them a PC when the process is extremely simple.

I dont doubt that those guys know what they're doing, but it's not really difficult to go through msconfig, or Admin Service Settings and turn off anything you dont need. They are labeled pretty obviously in terms of what the service/program does.
Not really something I'd pay extra $$ for when I can do it myself in 30 minutes.

I dont doubt that those guys know what they're doing, but it's not really difficult to go through msconfig, or Admin Service Settings and turn off anything you dont need. They are labeled pretty obviously in terms of what the service/program does.
Not really something I'd pay extra $$ for when I can do it myself in 30 minutes.

I would use Jim or Scott because it takes more than 30Mins just to do the research on which Boards and components to avoid and which to use. If you are watching every penny then do it yourself, but if you can afford peace of mind and a great warranty then go with the Pros. I have clients that Build or buy the biggest Junk I've seen in my life and then **** and moan that it performs like a dog, overheats, is noisy, Fugly and why didn't anyone tell them the pitfalls etc. Very few people are capable of building a decent DAW despite all the *seemingly* good advice on the Net. Of course if the user isn't in a situation where his clients look at the build quality or the stability then that's another story.... By the time they get to me, they've spent all the money and expect me to kiss the Frog and turn it into a Prince. Just my 2c worth from a DAW suppliers perspective.

Does anyone have any links to UK based firms that can offer a service comparable to those two US based links provided?

Ive checked out the following (and used one or two before - with varying degrees of satisfaction):

SCAN-IntaAudio-Red Submarine-RAIN.

Is there anyone else though who can offer up to date services, competitive pricing and above all else...reliability. An independant perhaps?

Im in the market for a new system once Windows 7 starts to show itself, maybe befrore that if Vista 64 can provide all my needs - but id like to be pre armed with some ground research before going ahead and splashing upwards of almost 2k on a system.

ORIGINAL: CoteRotie

You have to realize that the audience on this board is an older generation.

Oh, man, the truth hurts :)

You can get lucky or you could easily pick a motherboard that's great for gaming but awful for DAW use. There were issues with early SATA interfaces, some chipsets, some Firewire chips, etc. Companies like ADK and Studiocat have tested all this stuff and they know what works. It's fine to build your own but giving these guys a call for advice is cheap insurance against having issues.

Regards,

John

You make it sound like they are the only ones that now this stuff (which I'm $ure they appreciate). This very forum has parts lists that are known to work well. Not to mention most music related forums. I think discouraging others to (what seems to me) kiss the local daw builders butt, does a disservice to the community. People should learn as much about their tools as possible. And it's not like it's that hard anyway.

To me it's like somebody saying, "don't bother learning how to string a guitar. Take it to a pro who will do it right".

I think the age demographic is a good point as to why the timidness and not wanting to do it yourself.

The money difference between doing it yourself and paying for it is considerable. It's a nice luxury, but not really necessary for a great productive daw, despite the scare tactics.

ORIGINAL: sandman5000


You make it sound like they are the only ones that now this stuff (which I'm $ure they appreciate). This very forum has parts lists that are known to work well. Not to mention most music related forums. I think discouraging others to (what seems to me) kiss the local daw builders butt, does a disservice to the community. People should learn as much about their tools as possible. And it's not like it's that hard anyway.

To me it's like somebody saying, "don't bother learning how to string a guitar. Take it to a pro who will do it right".

I think the age demographic is a good point as to why the timidness and not wanting to do it yourself.

The money difference between doing it yourself and paying for it is considerable. It's a nice luxury, but not really necessary for a great productive daw, despite the scare tactics.

I was just suggesting that it can be a good idea to talk to these guys first before building yourself, or even search for their posts in which they give out free advice. There are plenty of people who know which motherboards work well for older chipsets, but I have no idea which one I would buy for an I7. I'd bet these guys have tested them already and could tell you which ones would work. I've built lots of my own systems and did get burned once buy buying a motherboard that was bad for audio. So if you want to do it yourself, I'm all for it, I'm just saying the DAW builders are a good resource if you can't find out what you need to know in other ways.

Regards,

John

ORIGINAL: ANIMAL010101

Hey guys

I want to buy a new computer for running sonar 7 producer edition.

I am going to be using virtual instruments such as Omnisphere and addictive drums.

I want to buy a computer that can easily run lots and lots of midi and audio tracks - the most powerful computer I can buy for running all of this.

I would like to know what processor is the best for running Sonar 7 and using multiple midi and audio tracks with no failures or drop outs and will produce the best sounding result.

I would really appreciate it any of you could tell me exactly what processor to buy (quad core, duo ect), Operating system sound card.

Please help! I really want to get recording with all this software!

Thanks

Just ran into your post and to let you know,I just put a system together no big deal and real cheap.I had an old type case I ordered a NFORCE3-A WITH A AMD ATHLON 64/3800 2G of mem, nvidia video card.E-mu 0404 and layla24 clocked together. I decided to run it on a windows 2000 with service pack 4.All I can say is,This computer Rocks really Solid.I am Also running Sonar 7 producer,samplittude 9 Logic for windows and reason for sequencing.All is well with no hitches or skippings..Total cost for the Mother board and processor on E-bay 50.00 usd.I also installed 4 sata hard drives with a raid card for two additional drives.The point is,All this software and pluggins will work ,no matter what as long as memory,drives and processor are fast and can peacefully co-exist with one another.

P6T WS professional mother board from Asus
Intel quad extreme 3.2 gig chip
min 6 gig sd3 high performance ram
external sound card/io
min. 1,000 watt power supply
rack mount server case instead of tower. use large fans... much quieter than small ones cause you can move more air with half the rpms... a fan controller is nice to have... although you can set the speed inside your bias.
middle of the road graphics... you don't want it stealing all your power which you need for your usb's... like controlers and i/o's
two screens are nice... they are cheep like hookers now a days.
two SATA 1TB drives. one for your software... one to store data...
two optical drives... get the best their cheap two...
don't cloud up your system with crap like card readers and such... it's best to dedicate the machine to the task at hand. you should be able to do this for under $2,000.00.... or i'll build you one for $2500 with out the i/0(sound card)

stay away from store baught's... your getting last years technology at todays prices and service can take weeks. building your own system is ridiculously easy now a days and you get so much more for your money.

You make it sound like they are the only ones that now this stuff (which I'm $ure they appreciate). This very forum has parts lists that are known to work well. Not to mention most music related forums. I think discouraging others to (what seems to me) kiss the local daw builders butt, does a disservice to the community. People should learn as much about their tools as possible. And it's not like it's that hard anyway.

Which X58 chipset motherboard exhibits high DPC latency with no fix currently available?
For UAD1 users, name X58 chipset motherboard/s that work fine... and those that don't?
If you really know your stuff... and have nothing but altruistic purpose... then share your answers with the group.

What do you do for a living? Do you think you provide value to your clients/employer? I hope you do...
Being a DAW builder is no different than any other profession.
I go to an auto-mechanic when I need my car fixed.
I go to the doctor when I have a sinus infection.
If you don't see value in said profession, that doesn't mean other folks have the same view/opinion.
If you work in general IT, then your services would be of little value to me, but that doesn't mean your job/profession is a waste of time/money for everyone.

ORIGINAL: rstollen


Hey Jim - I don't know sandman5000, but I did not read his post as a personal attack on you or your profession. I think that people just want to ask which motherboards (and other parts) are working well for others.

I acknowledge that you are an expert, but some of us just want to do it ourselves.

exactly! What does bug me is every time someone asks about building a computer, you get the daw salesmen pitching their wares and all the other people that think it's ok to spend an extra $700 or more to have someone build it for you (which, really a child could do). It's especially annoying when someone clearly states they'd like to build it themselves.

The daw salesmen that hang out here are helpful, but in general ways and to people that don't know much about how easy computer building really is. And bottom line is they are trying to make a buck off of someone's lack of knowledge. I think that's fine, to a degree. But, they pretend they are saving the universe.

If people want to build it themselves, help them if possible.

If I had tons of extra money, I still wouldn't get a pre built daw. I'd get a mac.
But since I don't have tons of money, I build my own computers very easily and very cheaply.

ORIGINAL: Jim Roseberry


Which X58 chipset motherboard exhibits high DPC latency with no fix currently available?
For UAD1 users, name X58 chipset motherboard/s that work fine... and those that don't?
If you really know your stuff... and have nothing but altruistic purpose... then share your answers with the group.

humm. wow. well you really stumped me there. You must be the only person that has those answers. But wait a minute, how about if I ask uad or their forums which mobo to use for my next build? Or how about if I ask in this, or other music forums, which mobo to use that has low dpc latency? I bet I get a lot of useful and practical answers. For free.
Not that knowledge isn't worth anything, but this a USER community forum. Not a platform for salesmen to sell computers. A forum for cakewalk users to exchange their knowledge FREELY with each other.

ORIGINAL: Jim Roseberry

The daw salesmen that hang out here are helpful, but in general ways and to people that don't know much about how easy computer building really is. And bottom line is they are trying to make a buck off of someone's lack of knowledge. I think that's fine, to a degree. But, they pretend they are saving the universe.

And this line of BS is exactly what prompted my response...
Have you answered any specific question for the OP? No...
Have you offered any real help to the OP? No...
If you really know your stuff, answer my questions... and help the OP.

Notice that I hadn't responded to this thread until someone started talking crap.
So don't even start the big bad DAW salesman routine. It's plain BS.
You have no idea about my background/etc. I'm here giving advice on many things (including mixing/etc - which has nothing directly to do with DAWs).
You "Sandman" don't even post using your real name. Nice/convenient way to skirt talking any personal responsibility for your actions/behavior.

despite you constantly wanting to make this personal, it's not. I'm sure you are a fine fellow and I have nothing against you personally. But, since this isn't the DAW Salesmen Forum, I'm entitled to offer my own opinion/advice. Sorry if it hurts your pride/profits. But I am more concerned for my fellow user than salesmen.

As far as the op getting answers, he is getting them. We are in fact derailing his thread. Sorry OP!

ORIGINAL: Jim Roseberry

humm. wow. well you really stumped me there. You must be the only person that has those answers. But wait a minute, how about if I ask uad or their forums which mobo to use for my next build? Or how about if I ask in this, or other music forums, which mobo to use that has low dpc latency? I bet I get a lot of useful and practical answers. For free.
Not that knowledge isn't worth anything, but this a USER community forum. Not a platform for salesmen to sell computers. A forum for cakewalk users to exchange their knowledge FREELY with each other.

As I thought, you don't know anything...
Just taking the opportunity to spew BS

I'd be willing to bet that over the many years I've been a Cakewalk user (since the CompuServe forum days), that I've freely shared a *lot* more helpful information than you.
Never once have I posted any type of advert in this forum. If I had, it wouldn't be you "Sandman" that would correct the situation, it would be Cakewalk themselves.
If you don't like me or my posts, use the block feature... or don't read my posts.
But if you start talking crap, I'm going to say something.

@OP, My apologies for your thread degenerating to this. Shoot me a private Email and I'll help you.

Dude, you have some type of malfunction wanting to make this personal. And my opinion is bs? ok. whatever dude. Steering him to UAD themselves is the best place to start looking for a good working mobo (if you use UAD). Asking in music forums and doing a bit of research is good advice to the OP. And he is doing that already.

My opinion is that you offer a way overpriced service. Some people don't agree with that and think spending a lot more $ is well worth it. We are all just offering our two cents. Get over yourself.