+1 for arranger track like StudioOne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZALHeAeOjM4
 

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
 
Actually there is a question about primary usage that would be interesting to know. Are users expecting this to be a tool for arrangement primarily or a live playback tool. If seamless realtime playback of sections is secondary then this could be a simpler project. i.e. if you can layout the song, preview it and then and render it as a wave file would that meet the main requirements?

For me, it would be arrangement. I don't use Sonar as a live performance medium (unless it would be for playing out a sequence of backing tracks/play list) and haven't even ventured in to Matrix land.
 

This is already a feature of Logic Pro X also. Very handy, a must have QOL thing imho.

mudgel
An arrangement tool.
On the question of seamless playback what is that so difficult to achieve?

Seamless playback when jumping around a timeline is a complex task in any DAW. Today if you have a complex project and seek around the timeline playback will start from the new location but there could be a brief loss of time while the transport relocates and prebuffers etc. In a simple project its fast but if you have lots of tracks and fx it could be a second or so before its synced.
Thats what I meant by seamless vs sequenced sections.

Arrangement here, too.
 
Thanks-
 
-Susan

The way I envisage it working is as follows:

1. User moves objects around in the Arrangement Window.
2. User hits the "Test Playback" button and listens (If the playback quality at this stage is not optimum, then that's ok).
3. When the user is happy with the new arrangement, he/she presses the "Accept" button. The project then re-arranges itself according to the new order in the Arrangement Window. Clips, markers, tempo changes, etc. are all moved to new positions along the timeline. Some splitting of clips is likely to occur.

Arrangement. The idea is that after you layout all your sections you'd have to go in and fine-tune things anyway. So it's really a way to quickly and easily get tons of clips distributed on the timeline.

Another vote here for just an arrangement tool.

When I first used Sonar after switching from an ADAT and mixer I was astonished that there was no way to run sections of the song in an order dictated by a list or yes, an arrange window.
 
This seems so computer - esq like it should be job one for any daw after they tackle recording and playback.
 
I had forgotten all about this and have been doing the dreaded dangerous cut and paste of whole chunks of multitrack.
 
Now I'm astonished again. :-)

+1 on an arrangement tool / window.

Hi. I would love to see an "Arrange" track like in GarageBand, or something like that function in the new Presonus DAW where you can highlight a bunch of tracks and non-destructively move sections around to change the arrangement. I re-arrange songs a lot and the current process in Sonar is cumbersome, to me, at least.
 
Thanks

Below is the address to a web page showing a great feature that Acid Pro 7 has that all DAWs should have. Maybe it can be added to the next Sonar release:
 
acidpro.helpmax.net/en/using-acid/editing-events-on-the-timeline/using-sections/
 
You may need to add http:// at the beginning of that website address.

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This would be the most significant improvement I can possibly imagine for Sonar... I am a songwriter... and get very frustrated with not being able to define parts, sections, or parts of sections and not move them around or duplicate them quickly and reliably in the creative process... Immeasurably screws with the creative/possibilities juices; this is separate from all the pros wanting to quickly show customers possible re-arrangements; BOTH are huge...
 
I don't care how difficult it is... I'd give up the next 3 to 6 months of "new" things for this...everything else pales in comparison... 
 
UI: define and name parts in the time line; rt. click to select "all, or specific tracks" from a drop down list, with pick up and tails boxes for each track, have a traditional copy, past, delete function for the selections, find new point in the song (beginning, within, or at end) and press paste, press "draft", then... if loved, press render... to do the hard stuff...
 
tracks to include could also be selected by scrolling and highlighting.  Once moved or duplicated/inserted, auto rename like original with a "dup" addition, which can be renamed by us.
 
Seems to me that this might become a part of the mix module "scene" capture system???  
 
lots of people seem to be incorporating this into DAWs now and I truly hope the genius's baking our DAW can come up with at least an initial remix/arrange system soon...and refine it as they are so many things, based on feedback.
 
Thanks, Noel... pleeeeeeese.... arranging is so much needed... think about the live stuff later...