Standing in the dock at Southampton,
Trying to get to Holland or France.
The man in the mack said, "You've got to go back",
You know they didn't even give us a chance

Christ you know it ain't easy,
You know how hard it can be.
The way things are going
They're gonna crucify me.

Finally made the plane into Paris,
Honeymooning down by the Seine.
Peter Brown called to say,
"You can make it O.K.,
You can get married in Gibraltar, near Spain".

Christ you know it ain't easy,
You know how hard it can be.
The way things are going
They're gonna crucify me.

Drove from Paris to the Amsterdam Hilton,
Talking in our beds for a week.
The newspaper said, "Say what you doing in bed?"
I said, "We're only trying to get us some peace".

Christ you know it ain't easy,
You know how hard it can be.
The way things are going
They're gonna crucify me.

Saving up your money for a rainy day,
Giving all your clothes to charity.
Last night the wife said,
"Poor boy, when you're dead
You don't take nothing with you
But your soul - think!"

Made a lightning trip to Vienna,
eating chocolate cake in a bag.
The newspaper said, "She's gone to his head,
They look just like two gurus in drag".

Christ you know it ain't easy,
You know how hard it can be.
The way things are going
They're gonna crucify me.

Caught the early plane back to London.
Fifty acorns tied in a sack.
The men from the press said, "We wish you success,
It's good to have the both of you back".

Christ you know it ain't easy,
You know how hard it can be.
The way things are going
They're gonna crucify me.
The way things are going
They're gonna crucify me.

This is how I feel because  i put myself out there, no I'm not JL 
But Im after the truth
So go for it get your thorny crown and I will wear it,
I'm not righ or am I wrong

What he says,but I still say it implies to 24 bit recording, and I will stick by it.


Not that anyone will be able to convince you otherwise Ben but Jeff is right on...and you can prove it to yourself by recording with peaks at -20 db (in 24 bit) and then normalize.
You won't hear digital noise, people will argue that that will raise the noise floor but it's not digital noise it's simply whatever background noise there is at the time.
Of course to eliminate background noise one needs to get as good of a "signal-to-noise" ratio as possible but....you are full of poop my friend.
Oh BTW, I've written a lot of music for TV so I must know what I'm talking about too.
Your pal,
Randy 

Wow! Relax Ben! Thanks for explaining a bit more about your digital peaks theory, I think I understand where you're coming from now. Although I'd have to disagree for a number of reasons, most of which were mentioned by Jeff. But that's cool, I'm not attacking you or anything, we'll just agree to disagree. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think a 10 dB difference in recording levels will make a difference anyway!

Stay cool Ben! By the way, would I have seen the show over here in the west? I'll listen out for it if we get the program over here...

IIRC a band named U.S. Maple did some recordings that were just plain weird..they recorded hot, clipping all over the place, fades in various spots not tied to beats, all kinds of stuff...it worked for them..I need to  find where I put their records in here.

John T


Those other threads are about sampling rate, not bit depth.

Yes they are. but the conversation and/or outcome will/might be the same


tom

Did anyone ever record something hot?  Volume wise?

Didn't Blue Cheer do something like that?

HOLy CRAP this thread hurts Me.. Right about now Im hitting the dis like button. DAM there is none.

Recording hot to tape and recording hot to digital are two very different things. The former saturates in a non-linear and often agreeable way. The latter just clips the waveforms square.

John T


Like I say, do whatever you like. There are people here who know what they're talking about, who could teach you far more than you seem to have learned doing your masters. If you don't want to take advantage of the resource, you don't have to.

CRAP  most of you know nothing about art and that is more importent than sound, who here is with me.
 
I want to raise an army toward this sort of comment
 
Neb

Good Grief man...cool down!!!

What is this?

Some sort of battle against what?

I tried recording hot digitally and got nothing but hard bippy stuff...no saturation here...sheeesh.

Blue collar yobs?

huh?

Looking down on people because of the job they do is a sure sign of a complete arsehole in my book. No need to even get into the fact that it doesn't even apply here; it's crap behaviour in any case. Though again, you are hoist by your own petard. As I recall, you're currently working humping stuff around on a rigging crew. Which I think is fine, but again, by your standards, you kind of have to think badly of yourself for it.

Uneducated???

I have a few degrees myself, bud.

I am learning as I go in here...and learning a lot from people here.


Autodidact?

Definition of AUTODIDACT : a self-taught person


Being one myself in here...I think you have it a bit backwards...

Do any of you know what it is like to hsvvr body that is failing them at 36, and no it's my fault and drug use my whore of mother didn't get me lifts in my shoes when I was a boy.

Because I came out of my mothers pussy the wrong way, one led got stuck I had to have a blow up cast on one of my legs for 12 months after I was born, So I will do the hard yards jsut to proove to you lot that I am a tough battle dwarf.

**** you