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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 08:19:24
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Wow,the 5m Diamond is only $1450.......I'd love to know how much they'd be in Australia? 2K easy  .
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 08:44:18
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I remember an article in a music mag years back that had a shootout between Monster cable and Hosa (and other brands). Turned out that Hosa (and many other inexpensive) cables were just as good as the rest in terms of their measurements. As long as you are not buying cables from the dollar store, you should be ok.
I'm NOT saying that all cables are the same, but there are great brands out there that are 1/3 of the cost of essentially the same thing from another brand.
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 08:51:22
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It's like I swear my Behringer XM1800S dynamic mic[all 3 0f em!] sounds better than my SM58[which is pretty old],but my rich buddies,laugh,and laugh.
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 09:18:47
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I remember an article in a music mag years back that had a shootout between Monster cable and Hosa (and other brands). Turned out that Hosa (and many other inexpensive) cables were just as good as the rest in terms of their measurements. As long as you are not buying cables from the dollar store, you should be ok.
I'm NOT saying that all cables are the same, but there are great brands out there that are 1/3 of the cost of essentially the same thing from another brand.
Yep , i'm not talking sound for my part , i'm talking safety in signal transmission ...no hifi guy here ;)
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 10:00:55
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It's like I swear my Behringer XM1800S dynamic mic[all 3 0f em!] sounds better than my SM58[which is pretty old],but my rich buddies,laugh,and laugh.
And I thought it was just me that noticed that......
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 11:59:29
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Moral of the story... as amarican auto and oil companies have learned... put any price you want on it and someone will buy it. Make it the only price and everyone will buy it.
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Why in the world would you pay $20K-$60K for a machine to ride back an d forth to work in everyday? To impress your friends? These things aren't worth that much. And the result is the CEOs and corporate bigwigs are making record profits, wages, bonuses, and pentions like never before.... at the same time they lay off workers because their profit fell a notch last Q. The $ gap between the top dogs and workers is at an all tme high. And as long as Americans let them, all these figures will increase.
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 12:12:57
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It's like I swear my Behringer XM1800S dynamic mic[all 3 0f em!] sounds better than my SM58[which is pretty old],but my rich buddies,laugh,and laugh.
WOW! And for $40 you get 3 mics with switches and a handy padded carry case. I'm sold. Why didn't you tell me about these sooner? Years ago I paid $40 for 1 RadioShack mic sm58 copy that was actually made by Shure. It sounded good too.
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 15:12:14
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quite funny where a simple question about belief in cables goes if you let it loose ... i hope it doesn't turn too political because then it'll be as boring a reading bug reports again 
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 16:37:21
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Moral of the story... as amarican auto and oil companies have learned... put any price you want on it and someone will buy it. Make it the only price and everyone will buy it.
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Why in the world would you pay $20K-$60K for a machine to ride back an d forth to work in everyday? To impress your friends? These things aren't worth that much. And the result is the CEOs and corporate bigwigs are making record profits, wages, bonuses, and pentions like never before.... at the same time they lay off workers because their profit fell a notch last Q. The $ gap between the top dogs and workers is at an all tme high. And as long as Americans let them, all these figures will increase.
is there any particular connection between this political comment and the cables in question.. ??? because, for the record, the answer to "why in the world would anyone pay $20k-$60k for a machine to ride back and forth to work" is ... "because you can".. It is not up to you to make judgements about how or why other people spend their money... and comments of that sort are best suited to something other than a Sonar x1/x2 forum
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 17:03:30
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lol for a minute i was like "damm, wrong thread ..."
Soens : all tru facts the key is not them but US , ....education , level of education and moral ....and realtionship with money ....for a lot of dudes it's a religion ,(occidnetales countries we're in) for the majority , just trying to find water is a question of survy ...
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 18:27:20
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There's good arguments for making sure analogue audio cables are made from oxygen-free copper (OFC), and are well shielded with jackets physically tough enough to withstand likely use.
There are good arguments for using OFC cable as above but also with low internal capacitance as guitar/bass leads (until the signal hits the first transistor buffer or valve anyway).
Gold (or tribor) plated connectors are useful as they resist corrosion very well.
Speaker leads heavy enough to carry the current involved are an obviously good idea.
And that's it.
As for digital cables, I use decent quality (Belkin) 4.8 metre cables to connect a UA-101 and MIDI interfaces without the slightest problem. No ferrites involved. In fact, the only USB cables I have with ferrites are the cheap stringy ones supplied with e.g. disc drives.
As for "audiophiles"...., don't get me started. Let's just say some have far more money than sense and are remarkably obsessive and remarkably gullible. A fact parts of the hi-fi industry noticed a long time ago.
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 18:35:33
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 19:16:16
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Anyone stupid enough to buy over priced cables probably deserves it. Maybe not the first time, but definitely the second. And for anyone who IS an electrical engineer who defends these overpriced monstrosities, shame on you. Especially when the medium is digital. Buy average to decent quality cables online - never from Best Buy, etc. who will jack up the prices ridiculously simply because the masses don't know what they don't know.
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 19:21:35
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lol for a minute i was like "[bleep], wrong thread ..."
Soens : all tru facts the key is not them but US , ....education , level of education and moral ....and realtionship with money ....for a lot of dudes it's a religion ,(occidnetales countries we're in) for the majority , just trying to find water is a question of survy ...
Well, I wasn't trying to be political, tho these things tend to be, just observational. Sorry if I stepped on anyones toes. Steve
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 19:24:43
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 19:43:35
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It's like I swear my Behringer XM1800S dynamic mic[all 3 0f em!] sounds better than my SM58[which is pretty old],but my rich buddies,laugh,and laugh.
And I thought it was just me that noticed that......
soens
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It's like I swear my Behringer XM1800S dynamic mic[all 3 0f em!] sounds better than my SM58[which is pretty old],but my rich buddies,laugh,and laugh.
WOW! And for $40 you get 3 mics with switches and a handy padded carry case. I'm sold.
Why didn't you tell me about these sooner?
Years ago I paid $40 for 1 RadioShack mic sm58 copy that was actually made by Shure. It sounded good too.
Yep,nice little foam fitted lined case for all 3,except I bought mine back in 07,when I needed some mic's just for jamming with friends[I hadn't yet discovered SONAR,or computers for that matter....much embarrassment!]but I paid the full $79.95,back then[still think it was a good deal considering],and I'm still amazed at how durable,and decent sounding these "things" are! As far as cables go though,I once needed an XLR mic cable in a hurry,and bought one from a big Aussie Electrical franchise,without properly checking the length,it was only 1.5 meters long!...ridiculous!  Bob
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 19:44:51
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 20:04:12
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Welll..., there are good cables and trash cables. Both analog and digital. Wire conductor metal and construction does matter. Insulation materials and bonding methods, do matter. Unless you know how and what to listen for and test for, you might never know if you've got a crap cable till it goes over the line and fails. Gold is good-testify- but it doesn't make much difference in a cheap jack. The jack will fail before the plug, circuit down, same difference.
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 20:45:35
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look at these: http://pearcable.com/sub_products_anjou.htm I am all for made in America but this, well.... really?? It is an RCA cable. How can it make any difference where it is made?? Made in the USA for superior quality. J
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/04 21:04:45
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/05 00:26:31
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/05 01:31:34
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Wow! Maybe if I sell my soul, I'll have enough for a down payment!
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/05 03:32:17
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/05 03:37:04
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http://most-expensive.net/audio-cables what about these?
Presumably there are jerks out there actually paying these sums of money and keeping these companies in business. I should set up a high-end cable company with profit margins like that
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/05 03:58:24
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@crg i thought it was that thing outta batteries not included lol
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/05 04:10:18
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Monster cable has done more to set back audio than any other company in the world. I wish no one would purchase anything from them or no retailer would handle them. They thrive on bogus pronouncements that have no basis in reality.
I really don't like them. BTW their cables are not as well made as the run of mill cables.
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/05 07:03:50
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Monster cable has done more to set back audio than any other company in the world. I wish no one would purchase anything from them or no retailer would handle them. They thrive on bogus pronouncements that have no basis in reality.
I really don't like them. BTW their cables are not as well made as the run of mill cables.
completely agree. there are no Monster products in my studio and never will be - at least none owned by me, if a client brings some in, that's their problem and the monster doesn't stay with me...
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/05 07:22:46
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Lol should i mentionned that the only monster cable i have is the firewire one , for my defense as no other were present in the shop .... Mogami , canary are good brands , and for my parts i went with an affordable but very good one : cordial (Pro line) http://www.cordial.eu/ fair price and good quality with neutrics ...
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/05 09:33:58
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'High end' audio cables exist to part fools from their money - and there's nothing like a double-blind test to make a monkey out of an 'high-end' audio columnist... 
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Re:Anybody believe in this??
2012/11/05 10:36:22
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I'd LOVE to see how the double-blind test goes n that one! Unless it's broken, it's going to work just fine :O)
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