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2010/08/14 10:33:46 (permalink)

Artist Customer Support

I have been using Cakewalk since before it was Sonar. I have had a lot of industry success. A few years back I became a Cakewalk endorser. I was simply amazed by the level of support I received from Cakewalk as a company... Certainly, they were second to none in the music software industry in their commitment towards assisting a customer under any circumstances.

If there was any offering on the website to send this as an email to an executive department, I would do so. But all access to any upper level management via internet or through their general telephone contact has been 100% removed, detaching direct communications at all levels.

So, after ALL other attempts to communicate have been exhausted, I bring my beef here and share it with the world...

Cakewalk has interviewed me and have an artist page on their website somewhere speaking of how my satisfaction was during the good times... But that should not matter at all. Suddenly, without notification or warning... I can't get anyone to help me. Seems as if Carl Jacobson head of marketing, the guy who brought me on board with the company is no longer here. I use to be able to call Carl any time on any day of the week and regardless of whether he was in the office or not, I would get an immediate response and assistance for a working resolution.

I've been waiting for a call back from their new Artist guy, Jimmy Landry since April 15th, when I accidentally caught him at H&R Block doing his taxes and he said: "I'll call you as soon as I get back to my office"... No Call... He has since changed his cell number (the one he gave me when he called and left it with my answering service on March fifth) and doesn't return phone call messages left on his office line.

I have Left him messages...

I have Sent him emails...

I have Offered to purchase support...

You know, as a person who makes their living from stable and continuing industry relationships, I feel this relationship with Cakewalk as a company has gone completely south, and to me, relationships are of the utmost importance.

Because of this, I'm currently and sadly working on making some significant changes in the applications that I use. Under the current set of circumstances, it will not include any of the Cakewalk line of products. If a specialized customer like myself, whom Cakewalk boasts their relationship with publicly, can not get support, even after they have offered to purchase it, then it raises a serious question as to the company's interest in the marketplace where they desire and require to make an impact.

I am infinitely disappointed with Cakewalk.
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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 10:45:45 (permalink)
Have you tried just calling their regular phone number and getting in touch with someone that way?

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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 10:48:57 (permalink)
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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 11:11:18 (permalink)
As a fellow artist endorser (not with Cakewalk though) I really don't think that CW is going to appreciate the fact that an "endorser " is ranting online like this and threatening to not include them in the future of your industry success that you state.
 
Whenever I need to get in touch with one of the companies I endorse I have personal cell #'s, office #'s or just go to a different rep when the artist rep isn't available or leaves. I always seem to get the new guy when needed too. They probably are busy with other people.  Maybe they are trying to avoid you. After the way you're ranting here I can see why. Try to be diplomatic it works better. Just my opinion. I'll see if I can get a rep contact info for you and I'll post it here when I do.
 
What exactly is the problem you have anyway? Is it something the forums may be able to help with?  

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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 11:17:44 (permalink)
Ok after searching around here is what I found for you. Right off the CW Forums!
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Tech Support:

Telephone (Mon-Fri 9:30am-8pm EST, closed from 2-3 pm): Click here for information
Email: http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Email.asp

If you are having problems regarding an order, registration or have a pre-sales question you should contact our Customer Service Dept:

Telephone (Mon-Fri 9am-8pm EST): 888.CAKEWALK or 617.423.9004
Email: http://www.cakewalk.com/About/csr.asp

These are definitely the best ways to reach us.

We also provide you with ways to directly involve yourself in the design & development of our products. If you have a great idea for a feature and you would like to see us implement it, let us know by submitting this form:

http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/FeatureRequest.asp
 
It looks to me that the artist contact is a great secret. Maybe they don't have a new contact anymore. anyway hope this helps.
Warm regards.
Tom

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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 11:22:13 (permalink)
Here is more for you: Copied right off CW Site under contact. I think you want to speak to Dealer and Techical Sales for endorsers.
 
Contacting Cakewalk
E-mail Customer service, for any sales inquiries regarding Cakewalk products, registration help or order information
Send order related and pre-sales questions here.
Email Sales

Dealer Sales, if you're a dealer, distributor, academic, or Channel Partner or would like to become one.
Email Dealer Sales
Technical Support, if you have a technical problem with your Cakewalk product.
Email Support
Web site specific problems, including technical problems
with the web site and web store: Email Webmaster Phone
General: 617.423.9004 9AM-5PM EST Monday-Friday Sales: 888.CAKEWALK 9AM-8PM EST Monday-Friday 888.225.3925   Dealer & Distributor Sales: 888.225.3925 opt 3 9AM-6PM EST Monday-Friday Technical Support: Click here for info 9:30AM-8PM EST Monday-Friday Fax: 617.423.9007   Address
Cakewalk
268 Summer Street
Boston, MA 02210 USA Driving Directions  


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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 11:39:50 (permalink)
My, my how the other half live.

https://soundcloud.com/doghouse-riley/tracks 
https://doghouseriley1.bandcamp.com 
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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 12:01:16 (permalink)
Dear Tom,

Thank you for your advise.

I appreciate your opinion and respect all. Rest assured that before I posted here, I frustratingly went through all of the contact methods repeatedly and utilized each of your provided links... Ironically, I do not believe that you checked the links you "cut & pasted" in your replies. I say this because each link takes you to the same location.

Additionally, there is not an option to provide a communication regarding a blanket relationship.

I see you joined this forum recently. I wish you the best of luck in your relationship with this company.

Sincerely,
TMR



Tom123



Here is more for you: Copied right off CW Site under contact. I think you want to speak to Dealer and Techical Sales for endorsers.
 
Contacting Cakewalk
E-mail Customer service, for any sales inquiries regarding Cakewalk products, registration help or order information
Send order related and pre-sales questions here.
Email Sales

Dealer Sales, if you're a dealer, distributor, academic, or Channel Partner or would like to become one.
Email Dealer Sales
Technical Support, if you have a technical problem with your Cakewalk product.
Email Support
Web site specific problems, including technical problems
with the web site and web store: Email Webmaster Phone
General: 617.423.9004 9AM-5PM EST Monday-Friday Sales: 888.CAKEWALK 9AM-8PM EST Monday-Friday 888.225.3925   Dealer & Distributor Sales: 888.225.3925 opt 3 9AM-6PM EST Monday-Friday Technical Support: Click here for info 9:30AM-8PM EST Monday-Friday Fax: 617.423.9007   Address
Cakewalk
268 Summer Street
Boston, MA 02210 USA Driving Directions  





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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 13:05:47 (permalink)
What is it with you people? Every time someone is having an issue with Sonar or Cakewalk you guys go on the attack.
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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 13:22:40 (permalink)
This isn't an "attack". It is an observation and this is a forum where customers can communicate. There is a problem with the lines of communication for me, so I'm addressing the problem here.

Here's the biggest problem:

1. There's this big featured article about me using Sonar on cakewalk.com...
2. Professionals see it, know me and want to check out why I'm raving about how cool Sonar is...
3. I have recently upgraded all 7 of my studio systems to Windows 7 64 bit, but I've only got Sonar 7, which was supposed to be upgraded back in March by my Artist Rep...
4. What am I supposed to tell my peers when they wanna check out Sonar?
5. What do I tell Curb Records when they need a remix for AC Radio with only minor changes?

I literally have had to keep outdated systems in place just to fulfill business obligations... Is that the right way to do business?



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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 13:26:15 (permalink)
tmrpro


This isn't an "attack". It is an observation and this is a forum where customers can communicate. There is a problem with the lines of communication for me, so I'm addressing the problem here.

Here's the biggest problem:

1. There's this big featured article about me using Sonar on cakewalk.com...
2. Professionals see it, know me and want to check out why I'm raving about how cool Sonar is...
3. I have recently upgraded all 7 of my studio systems to Windows 7 64 bit, but I've only got Sonar 7, which was supposed to be upgraded back in March by my Artist Rep...
4. What am I supposed to tell my peers when they wanna check out Sonar?
5. What do I tell Curb Records when they need a remix for AC Radio with only minor changes?

I literally have had to keep outdated systems in place just to fulfill business obligations... Is that the right way to do business?




I'm on your side. Cakewalk shouldn't be putting you in this situation.
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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 13:57:43 (permalink)
So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you've been waiting on a "free" update to, I guess, the latest version of Sonar PE for all your systems.  Is that right?  And in all that time you haven't been able to contact or talk to anyone at Cake who can help you?  And you're apparently, perhaps with good reason, worried about what your client base might think because you don't have the latest upgrade to Sonar PE which would provide you with some (what exactly??) capability that Sonar 7 PE lacks.  And, you seem to be very concerned with your image as an "endorser".  Is that also right?  And yet you haven't simply gone out an either purchased an update (or full blown version) to rectify the situation.  Is that also correct?  If not, as one commercial studio owner to another, methinks thou dost protest too much.  Sorry.

 

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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 14:19:23 (permalink)
yorolpal,

Yes to answer all of your questions.

I've purchased many versions of Cakewalk. 5, 6 and 7, but have always remained connected to the source. I have likely sold more versions of cakewalk applications through relationships than the local Sam Ash music store. Regardless, I expect that when I'm told something will happen, it will happen and I will receive it in a reasonable amount of time. 6 months later and no responses leads me to believe that CW will not fulfill their responsibilities to my respective peers when I convince them that CW is a great company with a great product.

As one commercial studio owner to another, methinks thou doesn't understand the required professional relationship of an endorsement.

BTW, I do take issue with your use of the word "free"... nothing is "free".
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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 14:23:11 (permalink)
I hope this is not an indication, as this correspondence is suggesting that Cakewalk is dying.

The best comfort in this context is that Roland can take full ownership of the software rights and continue its development, or drop it if it’s not meeting their profit expectations. Makes it interested to see when and what the next version of Sonar will be.
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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 14:28:39 (permalink)
http://www.cakewalk.com/artist/TMR.asp 

http://www.myspace.com/thetmrrecords 

TMR enterprises doesn't have a web site? 

Interesting story. I wouldn't mind a free upgrade to Sonar 8 too for my studio. But I guess becuase I'm not in Nashville I don;t count as legit.

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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 14:29:30 (permalink)
Dear simpleman,

You are so correct...

This is really my biggest concern, because I've learned to love CW's applications over the years and I frankly hate thinking about not using it and watching it continue to improve.



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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 14:40:17 (permalink)
Dear Johnny V,

Here again, I take issue with the use of the word "free"...

In my business, the cost of software upgrades is completely insignificant.

Since you initiated it, I will post the links correctly since yours do not seem to be working:

Cakewalk Artist Interview

tmrpro myspace


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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 15:07:11 (permalink)
http://www.cakewalk.com/Artist/All.aspx

is the latest page I guess?

Anyway , reading between the lines  , even thicko's like me get the "hints" .

posting at the weekend, well out of office office hours..

sonar 8 was released a while back (when Carl was there) .. so when was the last time you spoke to him?  as I do recall him being in a video with a record player.. sure that was for 8.hhm

as I do remember getting s7 pe.. hhmm 2 years ago now? (yep, by my join date)

I think you should call them monday perhaps the customer service department (as it's not a tech problem) , but well it's kinda between you and them.


post edited by Fog - 2010/08/14 15:20:44
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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 15:54:07 (permalink)
Totally agree with you about the word free, ol pal.  That is why I put it in quotes.  If it'll make ya feel any better...I was a piddly little artist endorser for Toontrack for a spell.  Then they totally revamped their website and...hey!!!....where did I go?  Stuff happens, I guess.  Or doesn't...in your case.  Sorry for your probs and I too hope Cakes not spiraling downward but like Fog says above..."it's kinda between you and them".  Good luck.

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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 17:00:30 (permalink)
Marc Nichols
Public Relations Manager
Email

Was listed on Cakewalk under Cakewalk Artist relations Hope this helps!

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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 18:00:06 (permalink)
Cakewalk has interviewed me and have an artist page on their website somewhere speaking of how my satisfaction was during the good times... But that should not matter at all. Suddenly, without notification or warning... I can't get anyone to help me. Seems as if Carl Jacobson head of marketing, the guy who brought me on board with the company is no longer here. I use to be able to call Carl any time on any day of the week and regardless of whether he was in the office or not, I would get an immediate response and assistance for a working resolution

 
So who are you exactly and what is the address to your artist page you speak of?

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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 18:04:52 (permalink)
Crg



Cakewalk has interviewed me and have an artist page on their website somewhere speaking of how my satisfaction was during the good times... But that should not matter at all. Suddenly, without notification or warning... I can't get anyone to help me. Seems as if Carl Jacobson head of marketing, the guy who brought me on board with the company is no longer here. I use to be able to call Carl any time on any day of the week and regardless of whether he was in the office or not, I would get an immediate response and assistance for a working resolution

 
So who are you exactly and what is the address to your artist page you speak of?


If you had only made the choice to read instead of attack you'd have the answer to the question.
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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 18:25:16 (permalink)
10Ten


Crg



Cakewalk has interviewed me and have an artist page on their website somewhere speaking of how my satisfaction was during the good times... But that should not matter at all. Suddenly, without notification or warning... I can't get anyone to help me. Seems as if Carl Jacobson head of marketing, the guy who brought me on board with the company is no longer here. I use to be able to call Carl any time on any day of the week and regardless of whether he was in the office or not, I would get an immediate response and assistance for a working resolution


So who are you exactly and what is the address to your artist page you speak of?


If you had only made the choice to read instead of attack you'd have the answer to the question.
I fail to see where I attacked anyone 10ten. Let me ask a simple question one more time.
So who are you exactly and what is the address to your artist page you speak of?
If it's already been posted, why didn't you repost it 10 ten?

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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 18:29:20 (permalink)
Crg


10Ten


Crg



Cakewalk has interviewed me and have an artist page on their website somewhere speaking of how my satisfaction was during the good times... But that should not matter at all. Suddenly, without notification or warning... I can't get anyone to help me. Seems as if Carl Jacobson head of marketing, the guy who brought me on board with the company is no longer here. I use to be able to call Carl any time on any day of the week and regardless of whether he was in the office or not, I would get an immediate response and assistance for a working resolution


So who are you exactly and what is the address to your artist page you speak of?


If you had only made the choice to read instead of attack you'd have the answer to the question.
I fail to see where I attacked anyone 10ten. Let me ask a simple question one more time.
So who are you exactly and what is the address to your artist page you speak of?
If it's already been posted, why didn't you repost it 10 ten?


Because it has already been posted. Again, if you were less busy attacking and more busy reading...
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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 18:37:33 (permalink)
10Ten


Crg


10Ten


Crg



Cakewalk has interviewed me and have an artist page on their website somewhere speaking of how my satisfaction was during the good times... But that should not matter at all. Suddenly, without notification or warning... I can't get anyone to help me. Seems as if Carl Jacobson head of marketing, the guy who brought me on board with the company is no longer here. I use to be able to call Carl any time on any day of the week and regardless of whether he was in the office or not, I would get an immediate response and assistance for a working resolution


So who are you exactly and what is the address to your artist page you speak of?


If you had only made the choice to read instead of attack you'd have the answer to the question.
I fail to see where I attacked anyone 10ten. Let me ask a simple question one more time.
So who are you exactly and what is the address to your artist page you speak of?
If it's already been posted, why didn't you repost it 10 ten?


Because it has already been posted. Again, if you were less busy attacking and more busy reading...


Could you post that link for me 10ten? Your answer is senseless. Now I am attacking. I asked a simple question, it has a simple answer but you want to argue over whether I should read and find it myself like some little troll. Show some manners and post the link or shut up. 

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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 18:48:47 (permalink)
It's posted a couple of times just 3/4 of a page up.

http://www.cakewalk.com/artist/TMR.asp

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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 19:36:12 (permalink)
Like I already said, Tom123 ... I have gone through the steps of attempted communications... You just sent me another link to nowhere. There's a total of two pages with PHP form mails to send messages into outer space ... that either go nowhere, or land on the desktops of offices that could care less if there is a customer service issue.



Tom123



Marc Nichols
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Email

Was listed on Cakewalk under Cakewalk Artist relations Hope this helps!

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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 19:40:27 (permalink)
What we got here is a failure to communicate.
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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 22:47:00 (permalink)
If you like Sonar ...as you appear to do, buy the freaking upgrade you need and move on. Who gives a flip if CW has decided to not call you back. Things change. I was interviewed by a trade mag in my daytime line of work.... I was "the man" there for a few weeks..... do you think they would bother to return a call to me now...... I'm not that foolish to think they would....!

So if I was in your shoes..... I'd but the upgrade, and continue to use the software you claim to like so much. From the interview page:

CW: You handle a lot of different types of music creation, production and engineering work. What in particular about SONAR made you choose to rely on it for your studio?

TMR: I couldn't name just one thing. It is an amazing music creation, recording and processing tool. I'll give you a list of reasons:
  • Stability
  • Customer Support
  • Functionality
  • Breathtaking audio quality



Really, your post sounds more like whining that Cake doesn't think you are as important as you seem to think you are to them. Sorry, that's the impression I got from reading you OP and your subsequent posts.

Get over this issue..... buy the upgrade and continue to make good music with Sonar.
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Re:Artist Customer Support 2010/08/14 23:37:23 (permalink)
Guitarhacker

Really, your post sounds more like whining that Cake doesn't think you are as important as you seem to think you are to them.

I'm quite enjoying this thread.  Does that make me a bad person?

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