Bill Jackson: Huh? I don't know what you mean.

A big problem though is that so many Rapture Pro SFZ files use FLAC samples. So DR won't load these samples.

Gotta say, Drum Replacer is doing what it does so well here. No glitches, no issues, just pure sorcery!! Ha ha! Seriously, great job Cakewalk!
Now, all that remains for me is to learn how to get access to more samples and this thing will be serious voo doo.
Also, if I buy the whole expansion packs for Session Drummer 3 that the provided samples came from, will they be readily available to Drum Replacer without a bunch of trying to figure out how to convert them and stuff? I apologize for my total ignorance about samples and software instruments and such, I've just never, ever dealt with such things before.   

REX files can be broken into events over a set time, using something like bounce to audio clip then using audio snap you can dissect a loop part and remove the parts you don't want. You can then fill the void of silence by inserting new parts although with some drums and percussion they will be spill or extra release sounds (such as hi-hats or cymbals).
 
Then again, what would I know. 

interpolated
REX files can be broken into events over a set time, using something like bounce to audio clip then using audio snap you can dissect a loop part and remove the parts you don't want. You can then fill the void of silence by inserting new parts although with some drums and percussion they will be spill or extra release sounds (such as hi-hats or cymbals).
 
Then again, what would I know. 

I was looking through the SFZ spec and I could not find any op-code that looked like it would support a REX slice number, so REX is not so useful in SFZ files. I suppose the sample offset could work to specify the slice start and the sample endpoint could be made, too, but that's a lot of work.
 

Yes, Dim Pro and Rapture Pro have drum RX2 samples in this multisample folder:
72 - REX Drum Loops
 
But I did not see any sfz files that refer to them.
 
When I load one into Rapture Pro, say, from
Dim Pro (legacy)
   Expansion Pack 2
      Drum n Bass Breaks
           Db_155_K01_Lp03 
 
I see Rapture Pro plays slices across a range of keys.
 
When I open the file in a Sonar Audio tack and look at the Loop Construction view I see about 16 slices.
 
But I don't know how the slices map to MIDI notes.
 
I'm not much of a REXpert, anyone know how that's supposed to work?
 

I see that, thanks.
 
DPro uses a fixed mapping - C4 onwards selects a slice.
Other lower notes play the loop and can do various types of pitch changes.
Rapture Pro must do the same thing.
 
I guess these are implementation details, I haven't seen any mention of how RX2 can contain MIDI mapping data built-in. But I didn't look too hard.
 

pencilartist
Seems more directly aimed at multi-tracked live drums than my *needs*. I'd like to take some live recorded drum tracks that are simply stereo mixes and extract midi from them. It's mature enough right now to give me a three separate drums, but nothing more.
 
Still, it's a nice advancement for ARA. It will mature.

I agree, I am in the same camp.
I think that is most likely the goal of the tool considering replacing and enhancing separated pieces is "relatively" simple as is.
 
After playing with it some it works ok for enhancing live and muddled tracks but takes tweaking... there would be just as much work to the exported midi it seems, making it pointless unless it was just for timing and tempo.
 
If you could add a little input gain for freq separation, and the biggest missing feature ... to add transients at will, then it would go a long long way.

Anderton
 
If you ever need to find out more about Dimension Pro and REX files: http://www.harmonycentral.com/articles/using-cakewalk-dimension-pro-with-rex-files
 
Here's an article about RXP and DropZone, both of which have some very interesting REX file playback attributes: https://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar09/articles/sonarworkshop_0309.htm
 

 
Thanks, that reinforces what I read in the help file.
 

scook
Thanks Craig.
 
I should learn more about it, if only to help others with their questions.

I'm very much into the REX thing, so I can help out. FWIW SONAR is quite flexible in terms of handling REX files, but no one seems to know it because the instruments that provide this flexibility were added so long ago I think people forget they exist. Cakewalk should just do new graphics for them, include them in an update, claim they're new, then sit back and accept the accolades LOL.

sfz supports round-robins. I looked at some of the files. There appear to be two samples per velocity range. Which sample plays is determined at random.

scook
sfz supports round-robins. I looked at some of the files. There appear to be two samples per velocity range. Which sample plays is determined at random.

The main reason I asked is, what I use today may have as many as 16-24 samples per drum, which can be played at different velocities, etc. but from the sample video of the Drum Replacer for Sonar, didn't mention anything about # samples available and the sounds all sounded the same for each hit. I would have advertised any dynamics.  

With regards to file formats, REX, flac etc, wasn't what that Bill dude from cakewalk saying, that you can use any of the file types that Sonar can handle, and Drum replacer can't natively by just dragging them into Sonar and they will be automatically converted to wav ? Then you can use them in Drum Replacer ? Forgive me if this was obvious, but I just got the feeling of a little misunderstanding (probably on my part, just skimming through on my phone, not really ideal)

Anyway, Sonar Platinum is pretty cool, and the forums, well, they are interesting, perusing through the threads, it seems it's not an entirely happy place, which is fine, certainly some 'characters' for want of a better word :)

In the videos it says the kicks, snare and hi-hats were used, but the only thing it shows is kicks, snare and toms. No cymbals of any sort are available. Am I missing something?

Having skipped the previous updates, and not using the Cakewalk Command Center (yet).. at my store account, is the SONAR Platinum UP4 Setup 21.4.0.27 refers to Everett ?
 
UP4 means 4th Update ? And is it possible to get previous update at the store account itself as I'm only seeing one Platinum download link only (UP4) ?
 
Thanks!