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Available today: Cakewalk Drum Replacer in SONAR Everett with new videos
The most integrated drum replacement technology is now available in SONAR Everett. Learn more about SONAR Everett Learn more about Drum Replacer Watch the new videos
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 17:33:27
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Quick question... Does "extract individual hits" mean that this can pull samples for use in say Session Drummer 3, or that it simply "removes" them discreetly? (I.e. is this sampling capability?)
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Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 17:42:14
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☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2015/05/21 18:09:44
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Quick question... Does "extract individual hits" mean that this can pull samples for use in say Session Drummer 3, or that it simply "removes" them discreetly? (I.e. is this sampling capability?)
It means you can get the time of all kick drums, for example, from a drum mix (in most cases). Those hit markers can be used to trigger samples in Drum Replacer, or can be converted to MIDI by dragging the clip to a MIDI track. It does not mean you can "lift" a sample from a mix.
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 17:53:37
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I'm sure there is more info coming but that material seems to imply we'll be able to load samples right into the DR thingie. If so kind of curious how that will work and what kind of files we can cram in there... and I guess whether that gets printed right to audio. Like choose hit(s), load sample, sample audio replaces original audio. That could do some interesting stuff and with a few extra steps accomplish what I think mettulus was asking about (drag copy a hit from audio to create a one shot sample the drag it into the DR load section). Probably pipe dreaming but you got me ole imagination abuzz. Looking forward to a vid of this in action. No need to reply. I'm just brainpoopin. Edit: and I've been curious about those CF drum samples (almost snagged a kit a while back with some of the Cake bucks we got for something or other but got something else instead)... so that's a nice add on.
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 18:24:26
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Thats my main question too really.....will we be able to use our own drum samples like you can by just dropping a file onto the appropriate drum in session drummer or is it a proprietary format?
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 18:25:46
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I'm looking forward to playing with this. It just might open up a whole new area for recording drum tracks for us non-drummers.
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 18:31:29
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Yeah it seems intriguing to me too, though likely for different reasons than most - I hardly ever (well basically never) record real drums but it could be a very cool creative tool to misuse...
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 19:10:23
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Yes! I've been waiting for this!
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 19:14:19
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 19:23:47
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Yes! I've been waiting for this!
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That was brilliantly funny!! 
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 19:24:10
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It will allow you to drag selections right from the Clips Pane. Also any .wav from Windows Explorer or the SONAR Browser.
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 19:27:58
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 19:31:59
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Anyhow - on topic - this does look pretty cool. Can't wait to try it, or at least see a video of it in action.
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 19:36:23
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Will this be able to extract HH and cymbals from overheads?
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 19:42:19
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As someone who records multi-track drums all the time, I am looking forward to giving this a try. Having said that, there are already mechanisms for doing this in Sonar, such as using AudioSnap or Melodyne to generate midi notes from audio transients and using those midi notes to trigger a sampler or drum synth.
What intrigues me, though, is the potential to detect a particular drum from a mix. Although I mic each drum individually, sometimes bleed from another drum is detected as a beat (which I usually edit out manually). If Cakewalk's new tool takes care of that aspect, it will definitely save me time.
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 19:49:17
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Wow, looks pretty kewl. The only hesitation I'd have is if it doesn't use Melodyne math for any of its work. Despite the revamp of Audiosnap there's still some transient weirdness, and with drums that could be disastrous. But heck, I'm on board. Could make building tracks VERY quick, since I use a stock drumbeat to write to and go back and "beef it up" later right before mixing anyway.
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 19:51:20
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It will allow you to drag selections right from the Clips Pane. Also any .wav from Windows Explorer or the SONAR Browser.
Sweet. Just realized this is going to come in handy for a live of the floor project I should have gotten polished up ages ago. Good thing I procrastinated because this should make it a lot simpler. lol
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 20:29:40
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 20:36:37
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I like wise have been waiting for this - working on a track as I type that I perceive this Drum
Replacement will have some definite util value...
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 20:55:35
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Cakewalk is making good on its promise to deliver these new features, and the fact that we don't have to wait a year or more as we used to (and still do with other software) is a very welcome approach. Well done so far!
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 21:14:40
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I'm interested. I have definitely used drum augmentation in the past. This looks like a big time saver.
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 21:43:24
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So, this will only be available for Sonar Platinum, not Sonar Professional? If that's the case, damn in advance.
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 22:01:03
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Sadly, I barely understand what you are talking about... Gladly, I'll have something new to find a tutorial on!
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 22:13:36
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☄ Helpfulby bayoubill 2015/05/21 23:45:57
Wet your pants if you like... But spare a thought for the poor drummer .. All his life playing at the back of the stage... Never getting any attention... And now this...
We need your help.. For just 1 dollar a month you can keep a drummer eating.
For 2 dollars you can contribute towards his drug fueled existence.
For 3 dollars he may get on X factor.
Folks.. The drummer is nearly extinct.. The studios he plays in have all but disappeared.. Please give generously..
And if you give now you will get a free pair of drum sticks as a special thank you..
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 22:18:50
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We still need [real] drummers to make our MIDI patterns... but who's going to deliver the pizza and allow the bass player to feel half useful?
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 23:20:05
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Wow! Sorry that posted multiple times! I have no idea what happened!
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/21 23:36:13
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Part of Sonar? Or $199 add-on?
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/22 00:20:40
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It will allow you to drag selections right from the Clips Pane. Also any .wav from Windows Explorer or the SONAR Browser.
Is there going to be a way to integrate a 3rd party drum instrument? I've invested thousands of dollars in Superior Drummer and it's content. I don't want to spend yet more money on drum packs from yet another vendor.
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Re: Coming soon: Cakewalk Drum Replacer
2015/05/22 00:47:06
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Based on the reply I got (post #3), I am *assuming* this is similar to AS in that it will create a MIDI track of events it detects which can be then used to drive any drum VSTi. Sort of the previous methods of drum enhancement with the added feature of removing the initial drum sound from the mix. (Pure speculation, of course, but the MIDI track was stated.)
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