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But below zero Celsius it'll snow above it'll rain. Pretty convenient.
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BTW, I was living in England when the currency switched to base10. Some of you are old enough to remember the chaos that followed when retailers capitalized on the confusion to raise prices on everything.
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Most disturbing of all is that train announcements now ask for customers waiting to board the train to "allow others to leave the train" before boarding rather than "allow others to alight".
This makes me sad, mainly because nobody knew wtf 'alight' meant; does it mean leave the train, board the train or perhaps even burst into flames? The word was a mysterious beauty now forever replaced with a drab, banal, boring, generic EU standardised monotony.
Also, now that we're apparently leaving the EU, can France's 'Golden Delicious' apples please be correctly renamed to, 'Pale Tasteless'. Thank you.
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☄ Helpfulby bayoubill 2016/08/08 18:18:33
As a Canucker born in the late 70's I am extremely comfortable with centigrade.
< 0C = Freezing
22-25C = Nice warm weather
> 30C = "FRACK OFF WITH THE SCORCHING MELTINESS!!!"
< -20C = "Cold as pizzwizz"
< -30C = "You gonna die iffen you stay out here too long"
My apartment has a digital thermostat for some dumb reason reads in Farenheit (I think maybe they anticipated really old people to live here or maybe the old woman who lived here before figured out how to set it to Farenheit).
Being the uneducated dimbledorfer I am it totally messed me up because all I knew was that when I visited Florida as a kid it reach 100F and it was EXCRUTIATINGLY hot! After about a year I figured out where my current comfort zone is in Farenheit (due to my soft tissue/joint problems it's between 76F and 82F otherwise my body seizes up or I'm sweating my blapples off) but had no idea how that translated into Celsius unless I did an online conversion.
During the first heatwave this summer I figured I'd better learn how to make the conversion so I could compare the local weather reports (which default to Celsius of course) and try to manage the temp in the apartment (no AC, only windows and fans and I needed to know when it was hotter OUTSIDE than inside so I could close up my windows and trap in cool air for as long as I could).
Turns out it's pretty darned easy for a quick approximate conversion.
F to C
(F - 30) / 2 = C (Farenheit minus 30 divided by 2 equals Celsius)
Reverse the equation for C to F.
It's not exact (because there are fractions/decimals in the TRUE coversion equation) but it's accurate within 1 degree for normal outside/inside temperature ranges and can be easily done in ones head for crust craniums like me.
For body height and weight I much prefer imperial* (I could not tell you how tall I am in meters or how heavy I am in kilos). Distance in miles vs. kilometers screwed me up for a while (I think they were still transitioning road signs when I was growing up) but I'm generally okay with km's now. Everything else I'm totally okay in metric and generally prefer it.
*The English "Stones" thing excepted which I think is just dumb and unnecessary. Tonnes vs. Tons is another annoying one.
Metric though is of course much better for scientists and other such eggheads so it's got my support. If it makes it easier for them to do their magic and make the world better go for it.
Oh... I forgot about construction stuff (I was a contractor for a while). When measuring/cutting/purchasing materials it's always much easier in imperial "inches" and "feet" because a) the standard material lengths/areas are imperial and b) working in centimeters means much higher numbers to work with and it takes much more of them to reach a meter as opposed to a "foot" (so in imperial you get a smaller/more manageable "large" unit/distance). I've never worked in "yards" though. That seems only useful for American football fields. lulz...
As far as the "Political Correctness" of math?
well I ain't gonna go there...
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2016/08/08 12:21:25
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bitflipper
BTW, I was living in England when the currency switched to base10. Some of you are old enough to remember the chaos that followed when retailers capitalized on the confusion to raise prices on everything.
That was wild. I was at college but helping on a milk round at weekends and holidays. One eldery customer disputed her bill and made me add it up time and time again without telling me what she thought was the problem. Eventually I discovered she had converted back to LSD added it up and converted the total to decimal, as I result she was convinced she should pay a half penny more than I was asking for. Once I had explaind this to her I had to explain to many customers why their delivery was late. 
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2016/08/08 12:24:44
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bitflipper
BTW, I was living in England when the currency switched to base10. Some of you are old enough to remember the chaos that followed when retailers capitalized on the confusion to raise prices on everything.
After all this time though, you still have older people who think partially in the old money. My dad will sometimes say "It was good value, only 12 bob," bob being the slang for a shilling. What's interesting is moving to a new country and dealing with a different currency. For the first few months you can't help converting to your home currency in your head when assessing prices. It takes a few months of earning a wage and observing how far that wage goes on your monthly outgoings to really develop an independent sense of what that currency is worth without having to translate.
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2016/08/08 12:30:17
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My Farenheit comfort zone is 71.9 to 72.1
Anything above or below that range is more than I can handle
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2016/08/08 12:34:00
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60F is my ideal temperature. Anything above that and I find it too warm to wear a jacket, and I really feel much more "together" in a jacket. Of course it doesn't help that NYC is anywhere between 80-100F between the months of July and September. I can't wear socks or shoes during those months either. Always my Chaco sandals.
Somewhere around the start of October I will go outside and feel that first cool breeze on my face and it's like I'm in a dream. Best time of the year is between October and November and then again between March and May. Having said that I much prefer 10F over 90F.
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2016/08/08 12:34:34
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bapu
My Farenheit comfort zone is 71.9 to 72.1
Anything above or below that range is more than I can handle
And you live in Cali? /notsure if TO is NorCal though //googles is too hard
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bapu
My Farenheit comfort zone is 71.9 to 72.1
Anything above or below that range is more than I can handle
And you live in Cali?
/notsure if TO is NorCal though
//googles is too hard
So Cal. 40 miles west of Downtown Los Angeles
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2016/08/08 12:41:44
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PS: That's actually about right for my "MUST WEAR CLOTHES!!!" comfort zone.
Clothes actually cause me phyiscal pain/discomfort. Undies (or REALLY comfy shorts) and a loose T with the arms cut off are tolerable during the day. At night... in bed? Well let's just say don't knock on my door after 10pm unless you are partial to swinging Richards (or mayhaps even saluting Richards).
And yes... that's right. When you correspond with El Beepo he's usually in his gitch.
Happy dreams, folks.
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2016/08/08 12:42:47
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bapu
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bapu
My Farenheit comfort zone is 71.9 to 72.1
Anything above or below that range is more than I can handle
And you live in Cali?
/notsure if TO is NorCal though
//googles is too hard
So Cal.
40 miles west of Downtown Los Angeles
Well... at least it's a "dry" heat from what I've heard. /old guy cliche
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bitflipper
BTW, I was living in England when the currency switched to base10. Some of you are old enough to remember the chaos that followed when retailers capitalized on the confusion to raise prices on everything.
After all this time though, you still have older people who think partially in the old money. My dad will sometimes say "It was good value, only 12 bob," bob being the slang for a shilling.
It's 50p to put air in your tyres around here. Half a quid. That was 10 bob...I could buy a box of Britain's soldiers for 10 bob...
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2016/08/08 12:51:17
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I remember when a bottle of Brown Ale was 99p 
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/08/08 14:00:29
Glyn Barnes
That was wild. I was at college but helping on a milk round at weekends and holidays. One eldery customer disputed her bill and made me add it up time and time again without telling me what she thought was the problem. Eventually I discovered she had converted back to LSD added it up and converted the total to decimal, as I result she was convinced she should pay a half penny more than I was asking for. Once I had explaind this to her I had to explain to many customers why their delivery was late.
You delivered milk to elderly ladies who did acid??? 
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2016/08/08 13:43:02
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Also, now that we're apparently leaving the EU, can France's 'Golden Delicious' apples please be correctly renamed to, 'Pale Tasteless'. Thank you.
Amen to than 
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sharke
bitflipper
BTW, I was living in England when the currency switched to base10. Some of you are old enough to remember the chaos that followed when retailers capitalized on the confusion to raise prices on everything.
After all this time though, you still have older people who think partially in the old money. My dad will sometimes say "It was good value, only 12 bob," bob being the slang for a shilling.
It's 50p to put air in your tyres around here. Half a quid. That was 10 bob...I could buy a box of Britain's soldiers for 10 bob...
Absolutely, if you got a ten bob note in a birthday or Christmas card you were minted I suppose in our own way, we were sort of working in decimal currency even when it was still £sd. Two bob, five bob & ten bob were always 'round number' amounts (equivalent, to those unfamiliar with our pre-decimal currency to 0.1, 0.25 and 0.5 of a quid).
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sharke
I remember when a bottle of Brown Ale was 99p
First time I got drunk was on 3 pints of (proper, with bits in) scrumpy, at 27p a pint. Hammered for 81 pence.
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Being a computer geek, I've always found it humorous (that's humo urous for you in the UK  ) that a U.S. quarter (25 cents) was called two-bits when two bits from a programming perspective is one quarter of a byte. Of course, when I began calling a 50 cent piece a nibble, I was only amusing myself as usual... 
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2016/08/08 14:45:38
50 Cent used to be one half of Dollar.
Of course, he's changed his image somewhat since then.
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sharke
I remember when a bottle of Brown Ale was 99p
First time I got drunk was on 3 pints of (proper, with bits in) scrumpy, at 27p a pint. Hammered for 81 pence.
I remember as an impoverished student with a side line in milk delivery "Top Draft Heavy" (a type of mild ale so ancient you cant even google it!) was 11p a pint. Some evening we nursed a half for hours! Bitter was a couple pence more and larger was for the boys who left school ASAP and went trawling and were minted. But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.
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I remember when a bottle of Brown Ale was 99p
First time I got drunk was on 3 pints of (proper, with bits in) scrumpy, at 27p a pint. Hammered for 81 pence.
I remember as an impoverished student with a side line in milk delivery "Top Draft Heavy" (a type of mild ale so ancient you cant even google it!) was 11p a pint. Some evening we nursed a half for hours! Bitter was a couple pence more and larger was for the boys who left school ASAP and went trawling and were minted.
But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.
Up until around 1992 there was a legendary pub in Newcastle called the Broken Doll, a real dive. It was basically the cause of my downfall at nearby Newcastle College. So easy to skip lessons and head to "The Doll." 99p for a bottle of Brown and I think just over a quid for a pint of Slalom D - a stupidly powerful lager that unsurprisingly tasted like rat's p***. And I think it was just over a quid for 10 ciggies at the time. You really could go out and get stupidly drunk on a tenner. And then we'd climb bridges and paint our band names on them Such great times.
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Thinking about it the price of beer since the early seventies as increased about 20 fold. New albums were about £3.50. The same inflation would make an album £75 and a single £20
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2016/08/09 03:52:39
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Glyn Barnes
Thinking about it the price of beer since the early seventies as increased about 20 fold. New albums were about £3.50. The same inflation would make an album £75 and a single £20
True, but this is BEER we're talking about here! It's not uncommon to buy a pint of nice micro-brew around here for $7. At some of the biggest, hottest nightclubs in Hollywood back in the 80's you could get something like a bottle of Corona and pay at least $10 each. I used to have Widmer's Drop Top on tap at my home (1/4 keg) and it only cost me $56 for 60 pints (the big ones)! Mmm... Cheap, draught (draft) beer. Now THAT'S the way it should be! 
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2016/08/09 04:35:24
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Glyn Barnes
Thinking about it the price of beer since the early seventies as increased about 20 fold. New albums were about £3.50. The same inflation would make an album £75 and a single £20
Fair point Glyn. Mind you, I would argue that the real cost of beer in the pubs is what has increased. The price of 'supermarket' (especially canned) beer has probably fallen in real terms. I worked in an off licence when I was 18 and the cost of beer we sold was around the same as the boozer, if not slightly higher. Undoubtedly, the price of supermarket alcohol is one of the reasons for the decline in the pub trade in this country over the last 20 or so years.
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Bars started declining here when our society got serious about impaired driving.
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Fair point Glyn. Mind you, I would argue that the real cost of beer in the pubs is what has increased. The price of 'supermarket' (especially canned) beer has probably fallen in real terms. I worked in an off licence when I was 18 and the cost of beer we sold was around the same as the boozer, if not slightly higher.
Undoubtedly, the price of supermarket alcohol is one of the reasons for the decline in the pub trade in this country over the last 20 or so years.
Good point, and it becomes a vicious circle, less people go to the pub, so the atmosphere isn't as good, so less people go..... There were around 20 pubs in my town in the 70's more than one per 1000 people. They all used to do a good trade. Now there are fewer, and town has grown. With the exception of Weatherspoon’s all seem to be struggling. BobF
Bars started declining here when our society got serious about impaired driving.
Certainly a factor in the UK for country pubs but I don’t think it made much difference in the towns and cities. I think the smoking ban had a big effect, in many ways it’s a good thing but it has reduced custom in many places.
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2016/08/09 08:49:42
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Glyn Barnes
Thinking about it the price of beer since the early seventies as increased about 20 fold. New albums were about £3.50. The same inflation would make an album £75 and a single £20
Fair point Glyn. Mind you, I would argue that the real cost of beer in the pubs is what has increased. The price of 'supermarket' (especially canned) beer has probably fallen in real terms. I worked in an off licence when I was 18 and the cost of beer we sold was around the same as the boozer, if not slightly higher.
Undoubtedly, the price of supermarket alcohol is one of the reasons for the decline in the pub trade in this country over the last 20 or so years.
While we're on All Our Yesterdays, do you remember buying cans from an 'offy' window at the back of the pub after kicking out time? probably Watneys, maybe Whitbread Trophy or Tankard..or Skol Lager
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Glyn Barnes
There were around 20 pubs in my town in the 70's more than one per 1000 people. They all used to do a good trade. Now there are fewer, and town has grown. With the exception of Weatherspoon’s all seem to be struggling.
Worcester was once quite (in)famous in having 365* pubs in the City, one for each day of the year! The local in-joke (should that be inn-joke) was choosing which one to visit twice in a leap year *I wouldn't be at all surprised if that figure's now down to a few dozen.
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