Well, I did a clean install of my system. I did a full install of X1 32 and 64 bit.

Then I installed 8.5 32 and 64 bit but did a custom install. I just installed the program, I didn't install any samples or plug-ins. They all came from X1 and I just pointed 8.5 to my X1 VST folders.

Can you check and see what build X1a you are running? It says 197 for both 32/64 on my system.

I noticed in other posts where people did screenshots, they were running 184 iirc. I have no idea how different builds could be out there unless one is the download version and the other is the DVD version.

I did install from the DVD's.

To be honest, I stopped using X1 and went back to 8.5.3 so I haven't run in to this yet.

I've been messing so much with X1 trying to get it stable since it came out, I haven't even gotten to the point of using PX64 on a project yet. :(

I'll fire up some old projects with the PX64 in them and post my results.

Bub.

I emailed tech support about this, they told me to reinstall the plug. Has anyone tried this already, to spare me from going through the work of doing so just to find out it doesn't fix anything?

X1a 32-bit on Win 7 64 (I only have 4GB of ram, so the 64 version of X1 is pointless for me right now).

Oh, it's file version 1.0.0.184.

Why are you saying you should drop it or not care? Couldn't reproduce the probem in X1?

Sorry you feel that way, Bub. You've never seemed anything but helpful to me.



But I responded to tech support, telling them one way to reproduce the problem, as they said they could not, and I thought I'd post the steps here as well, so anyone else using X1 can see if the problem exists for them as well. The input and attention on the problem would be most helpful!




Here is a way you should be able to reproduce the problem:
 
1) Start an empty project in X1 (I run the 32-bit version, but I don't think that matters one way or the other).
2) Insert an instance of Session Drummer 3, and load the Steven Slate Sizzle Kit Dry.
3) Run the Step Sequencer from SD3, and insert a few hits from the Lo.Tom (key 45).
4) Apply the PX-64 to the tom's instrument track, and adjust the following values to these custom parameters:
    - Activate the Shaper, adjust the Attack to 124.8%, the Decay to 107.2%, the first Color to 18.0, and the second Color to 12.0
    - Activate the Equalizer, adjust the Low Level to 1.3dB, and the High Level to 1.6dB
5) Close the PX-64 and listen to the effected tom, hear how it sounds.
6) Save the project, and close X1.
7) Restart X1 and re-open the project.
8) Play the project and hear how poppy the tom sounds.
9) Open the tom's instance of PX-64 and notice that the sound goes back to normal.


This is just one MILD example of the problem. No, it's not difficult to simple open all the instances of PX-64 to get things sounding right again, but to have to do it every. single. time. you re-open the project?... Come on, now!

VIDEO HERE
http://www.screencast.com...4db7-b5e6-ae1b37fc8ba9

Here is a way you should be able to reproduce the problem: 1) Start an empty project in X1 (I run the 32-bit version, but I don't think that matters one way or the other). 2) Insert an instance of Session Drummer 3, and load the Steven Slate Sizzle Kit Dry. 3) Run the Step Sequencer from SD3, and insert a few hits from the Lo.Tom (key 45). 4) Apply the PX-64 to the tom's instrument track, and adjust the following values to these custom parameters: - Activate the Shaper, adjust the Attack to 124.8%, the Decay to 107.2%, the first Color to 18.0, and the second Color to 12.0 - Activate the Equalizer, adjust the Low Level to 1.3dB, and the High Level to 1.6dB 5) Close the PX-64 and listen to the effected tom, hear how it sounds. 6) Save the project, and close X1. 7) Restart X1 and re-open the project. 8) Play the project and hear how poppy the tom sounds. 9) Open the tom's instance of PX-64 and notice that the sound goes back to normal.

 
 I did this and got the same results,it went to crappy. I then noticed that if you grab the input gain slider and the output gain slider and move them and set them back to zero your back to the correct sound, this makes me think it is related to the gain issue someone posted about earlier.

teego, did you try the same steps as in the video? Define crappy please?

No I just created it the way he posted in the written message. I just tried it again and now it is fixing itself when I open percussion strip. It is related to gain I think because it is pegging the meters until you open the plug in.

OK I tried that and the clicking/popping is very noticeable with PX opened or closed. Is that what you're referring to?

If so then I definitely hear it here. Opening the PX-64 doesn't seem to remedy it here but my ears are not that discerning.

If I open the px 64 before I ever hit play it sets the gain as it should be. No pegging of meters.I also noticed that the knobs and slider values are where I left them when I closed it,so they are not changed graphically.

It sounds like you guys are on it but I don't see any pegging meters here. I just hope that X1b addresses the problem. Let's hope.

I'm also seeing this message but in order to get things back to normal, I need to open PX-64, select a different preset and then go back to the original preset.  Then the drum track in question sounds as it should.  So, yea, one more person with the same problem.

I have a feeling that X1 is not saving the plug in settings with the project.  So you have to start over each time.  Also, the plug in setting (software dependent) may not offer the settings to SONAR to be saved.  Either way, it's a pain to go back in and reset things.  So yeah, save the preset if possible.