Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version - PROBLEMS WITH INSTALLED MC5 NOW. :o)

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/11 08:42:30 (permalink)
One of the big advantages to having the problems I had was that I got to familiarize myself with the pull down menus. Plus, I also became a little familiar with the boxes. So, after I asked the question, my mind went to "hey...where did I see that latency adjustment slide?" Off I went in search of it, found it, and fixed it. I might have a slight little delay in there, but nothing I am picking up on. That also seemed to fix the noise and pops I was getting. I went back and listened to a song I started work on last night, which had some noise in it, and it is now perfectly clear.

It's kind of funny, the version of Amplitube on this thing is the LE version, right? For most people, it might be a light version compared to what they are used to. My main gear, though, has always been nothing more than my Marshall Plexi head, cab, and a RAT pedal for FX. That is it. I've never used anything more than the most basic tone you could get. So these amps are actually a LOT for me to get ahold of! LOL!

I also have to say that the people on Amazon are idiots. So far this is seeming to be a very nice program. I'm not sure what the people are complaining about. Obviously those folks have never worked with a BIG program before. I used to be an AutoCAD technician, before losing the job over as year ago now. I can tell you that the set-up time on that beast was easily 2 days or so. It took a long time to load, then a long time to get set-up to a working position, and then an even longer time tweaking it to your liking. I worked with the program for 12 years and I was still making adjustments. Yes, there were new editions, but I still knew what I liked, and it still took time. So the amount of time I have spent with this thing is no big deal. I was able to start recording on the first night while trouble shooting the other aspects. It may not have been running 100% on the first day, but it sure as heck was in working condition. The way I see it, there is no program made that works perfectly right away. That is the time to start learning your program. If it worked right away, then we would never learn the ins and outs. This way, I didn't just jump right in, and I am more capable of finding certain aspects of the program now that I spent time with it.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/11 08:46:39 (permalink)
Right now I am on the bottom option (can't remember the name), but you say it should probably be ASIO? I'll check that when I get home this afternoon. Oddly enough, though, the noise went away with the slide of the lever thingy. I am pretty sure the Amplitube is registered, as I entered in the serial number, and the approval number (or whatever it was called), and that was during the Amplitube set up. Or is that the confusing part, they don't really let you know there is a completely different step. I opened Amp in MC5 and didn't find a spot to register it.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/11 08:47:17 (permalink)
the noise bursts in amplitude should not start for 15 or 30 days..... IIRC it runs fully functional for a trial period before it drops into demo mode...until it's registered.

register now, and you never have a problem with the noise.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/11 09:20:20 (permalink)
but if he installed it, registered it then reinstalled it it might go into a mode that bypasses the trial period.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/12 02:02:57 (permalink)
Hello Carl,

When you get the package the instruction manual will instruct you to try out the tutoials but, unless things have changed, they are not on the disc, you have to download them from Cakewalk. 

If you look at the top of the forum list you should see 'Music Creator 5 Video Tutorials' posted by samara Krugman.  If you 'click on' that it opens a link to get these downloads. 

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/12 02:22:26 (permalink)
Sorry,

When I opened up I didn't notice that ther were 4 pages of replies and you were already 'up and running'.

Still, at least you know why my monicker is 'confused'.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/12 02:33:56 (permalink)
I appreciate the advice, and you actually made me realize another question I wanted to ask. I have tried to watch those tutorial videos, but I can't seem to find them. I did download the file at that link, but it was a file I couldn't use. I do need to look at them, as I am a little confused by the sound center. I can bring it up, but no matter what instrument I click on, I get the same weird sound. Kind of like a REALLY bad Casio keyboard (no offense to any Casio keyboard maestros we might have here). I pick my instrument and then move to the piano roll, and I still get that weird noise. I'll get it, soon.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/12 07:56:26 (permalink)
what do you mean it was a file you can't use?  did you unzip them first?  or are you getting an error message that you can't open them or what?

on the soundcenter you have to load each instrument.  in the lists, there are TYPE, SUBTYPE and PROGRAM you have to double click on the program to get it to load.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/12 11:15:10 (permalink)
Haha! I'm an idiot! I only double clicked on the instrument name in Sound Center. You need to double click each part of it, from instrument, to type, all of them! I'm playing my saloon piano right now.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/12 11:41:23 (permalink)
it's a learning process..... and you're working through it.

Good to hear. Many synths have the same file structure and selection method...

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/12 13:05:41 (permalink)
Cool. I have decided to get myself a MIDI keyboard and a better mic. My mic really sucks and is giving me a very tinny vocal sound that I am have a problem giving more "beef" in the mix. That is kind of my only complaint, so far the mixing board is a little lacking. Again, though, this is more than likely my own lack of experience.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/12 13:24:19 (permalink)
so far the mixing board is a little lacking

 
I assume you mean the Console view. What's lacking that you want? Maybe someone can offer suggestions.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/12 14:15:23 (permalink)
I have some vocals that I want to add some depth to, give a little more "bass." I'm not overly sure what I want, I just need to somehow remove some of the tinny side. Trial and error is going to be my way of life with this thing.

I also need to remove some serious hiss from the base track I am using. Here is the deal, what I am working on are some old demos I had done 20 years ago. The bass, guitar, and drums have all been mixed down, and the track is a .wav file I made from the cassette. So, I have the hiss from an analogue recording and a cassette transfer. I'm adding extra guitar tracks to these tunes (one song has received two 12 string tracks, the other will receive the second guitar part) and vocals. The ones I have done sound pretty good right now, and I figure they will sound a lot better once I get the hiss out of that old track. Before buying MC5 I saw in one of the promotional videos that hiss removal was a feature. I just need to dig in to find that part.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/12 14:51:32 (permalink)
for now.... until you get a good case of GAS....(gear acquisition syndrome)  and bust loose a few hundred on some mastering suite software, you can use a combo of the cakewalk compressor/gate and the ParaQ EQ to play with the loudness/presence and EQ of the tracks.

I like the cake audio FX and use them in every project.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/12 17:51:57 (permalink)
Yeah, those people on Amazon who said this is a crappy program are idiots. I just got done recording my first 100% synth style techno piece. 100% programmed drums, 100% fake guitars, different synth tracks, all sounding like it should have been in the new TRON flick. A song recorded while sitting on my couch, with people all around me, through the head phones. Nobody knew what I was doing until it was done. Well, not done, I am sure I will do a whole lot more to it, and will probably always use this track for my testing ground. But come on, how could this be a crappy program.?

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/12 20:52:23 (permalink)
most people who complain on places like amazon about MC or similar products simply are using their onboard soundcard and don't know how to use the program and want it to "just work" and make top 40 hits for them in under an hour.

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and some crackers.



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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/13 10:03:12 (permalink)
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Yeah, those people on Amazon who said this is a crappy program are idiots. I just got done recording my first 100% synth style techno piece. 100% programmed drums, 100% fake guitars, different synth tracks, all sounding like it should have been in the new TRON flick. A song recorded while sitting on my couch, with people all around me, through the head phones. Nobody knew what I was doing until it was done. Well, not done, I am sure I will do a whole lot more to it, and will probably always use this track for my testing ground. But come on, how could this be a crappy program.?


+1..... I love what MC does.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/14 09:52:28 (permalink)
One thing I am noticing, the anti-virus software really needs to be shut off when doing anything with the program. When that thing kicks in and does one of it's searches, holy cramolie does it mess things up. I was trying to do some recordings, and I kept getting bursts of hellish noise. I couldn't figure out why it was going on, and it would also mess with the timing of the tracks. Then, thanks to Cakewalk placing the CPU thing in the lower right corner, I noticed that the noise came when the CPU usage went up to 20%+. So, I shut a bunch of the running programs down, mainly the virus protection, and all ran smooth. A little scary to have to do, but I figure I am not on the 'net while doing my work, so I should be fine.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/14 09:59:01 (permalink)
Yeah Carl...

Always shut off the AV or at least the internet before you set down for a session.  My AV used to come up as a pop up box and tell me it was doing a scan or an update. I would cancel it. With my lappy, the switch on the side would disconnect the WiFi internet and simply go in to the scan/update settings and change them to a time when you usually are not recording...like first thing in the morning, or during lunch hour.

On my current DAW, it's totally offline and doesn't have AV on it or an internet connection to it.

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Re:Boxed version of MC5 vs. the download version 2011/03/14 10:56:37 (permalink)
Right. Turn off anything that might interfere with your session.
It was recommended in the early days to shut off all scheduled tasks, like automatic updates, disk defragmenting, etc., and all power-management schemes like hibernate/sleep. Turn off Microsoft System Sounds. Also turn off your screen saver and wallpaper, although with all the memory modern computers have, some of that may not be necessary. But I do it anyway.

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