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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 18:06:08 (permalink)
Got an error trying to install the BandLab Assistant.
Now I see why

Office rig is 32 bit.
No offline install, the StudioCat will remain Cakewalk free for the time being.
Not complaining, just pointing it out in case anyone else is having "issues".
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 18:06:45 (permalink)
This is absolutely groundbreaking in terms of what the end user has access to, will have access to, and for affordability.
 
I can imagine Bandlab growing the Cakewalk brand into something very special again

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 18:09:40 (permalink)
Regarding BandLab account, do you all get an email from BandLab ? or just head over and create your own account ?

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 18:11:09 (permalink)
Downloaded and installed smoothly. I now have Cakewalk by Bandlab sitting next to my Platinum install.
I haven't really had time to test drive it, but from first impressions, it looks like Platinum, runs like Platinum, and (for the lucky sods who didn't pay for Platinum first time round) it's free - What more could you ask for? Oh! Wait, we're on the Cakewalk forum..... ;)
 
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 18:13:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2018/04/04 18:55:06
Scook and aidanodr Thank you very much my friends, I am always impressed with the clear and direct answers of this fantastic community.

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 18:14:38 (permalink)
I have platinum lifetime, can I just keep using what I have, or will I eventually have to download the Bandlab version?
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 18:16:23 (permalink)
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Got an error trying to install the BandLab Assistant.
Now I see why

Office rig is 32 bit.
No offline install, the StudioCat will remain Cakewalk free for the time being.
Not complaining, just pointing it out in case anyone else is having "issues".
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Thanks for this information!
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 18:19:52 (permalink)
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I may have missed the answer, but what is the expectation for those with Lifetime updates of SPLAT?



Just leave it installed.  Then grab the new program.  Your plugins from the Splat install should scan and run in the new Cakewalk (a streamlined version of Splat without the 3rd party content).
 
Splat will no longer receive updates or support, but you can continue to use it.  All development and updates will be for the new Cakewalk by BandLab.

DAW: CbB; Sonar Platinum, and others ... 
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 18:22:12 (permalink)
Mr. torture
I have platinum lifetime, can I just keep using what I have, or will I eventually have to download the Bandlab version?


Use what you have if you wish. There will be no fixes or updates to it though.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 18:22:44 (permalink)
Since I'm on 32bit, I can't check it out myself... Is there anything function-wise missing inside the new Sonar/Cakewalk ie. the CAL, the Tube prochannel, audiosnap etc?
 
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 18:27:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ttoz 2018/04/15 16:14:04
AFAIK, it is the same feature set as Platinum 2017.10 with at least one new feature to replace an existing track with a track template.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 18:59:48 (permalink)
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BandLab Cakewalk installs like a SONAR upgrade



This is the most useful statement I've seen on the subject...
 
Kind of confirms that if you want all of the plugins/instruments/prochannel modules that you had in Platinum, you still need Platinum installed..
 
I wonder if that will change in future?




This really isn't entirely true though.  Even though it does import some settings...not all...for example...it doesn't import your folder locations at all.  

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 19:00:23 (permalink)
I opened BL and ran a scan. So now I have 715 of the 821 plugins. I'll check to see what's missing.
I totally agree with julianochrisway, scook and aidanodr are great at answering/helping!
 
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 19:16:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ttoz 2018/04/15 16:14:22
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What a wonderful way to wake up this AM.  The first Cakewalk download is ready.
I also see that the Cakewalk store is back up and running for buying products.

 
Hi you can't buy anything on the Cakewalk site. Its up for legacy reasons only for now.

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 19:20:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2018/04/04 21:16:35
Mr. torture
I have platinum lifetime, can I just keep using what I have, or will I eventually have to download the Bandlab version?



Platinum will never be updated. If you want the new features we will continue to add you will need to download the BandLab version which is free. You should leave the Platinum version installed since Cakewalk by BandLab is the core program with minimal add ons. It will use all the external components you had as part of the platinum collection.

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 19:21:13 (permalink)
chris.r
Since I'm on 32bit, I can't check it out myself... Is there anything function-wise missing inside the new Sonar/Cakewalk ie. the CAL, the Tube prochannel, audiosnap etc?

 
Feature set is identical to Platinum and all the stock prochannel modules are included.

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 19:28:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SandlinJohn 2018/04/04 20:43:45
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I wouldn't. SONAR Platinum comes with plugs *not* in Cakewalk by Bandlab. Unistalling SONAR Platinum will remove those plugins.
 
JMO.



I definitely won't unless I hear otherwise from Noel or Meng. I'm hoping there is (or will be) a way to remove all the stuff from the SONAR Platinum installation that is no longer needed without removing the plugins. I'd like to free up disk space, but it isn't a big deal to me. Not that much wasted space, really.




Its a bit tricky since its not easy to uninstall platinum but leave just the plugins and shared content. If you uninstall platinum it will take aware some shared stuff and damage the new Cakewalk install (a flaw in the platinum uninstaller). Its easily fixed by reinstalling Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) but then you will be missing some of the extra platinum bundled content like Addictive drums etc.
If you use the platinum extras then the easiest thing is to just leave your platinum installation alone. CbB will automatically use all the extra plugins from there.
The thumb rule is if you are a Platinum user then do the minimal install of CbB since you won't need the extras. At least for this first version.
 
Removing the platinum executables wont really save you much space so its not worth the bother.

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 19:37:30 (permalink)
Thanks Noel. Good to have advice straight from the CTO.

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 19:47:45 (permalink)
I just downloaded it to my PC and seems to work ok. did not find some of my vst's even though I duplicated the locations from the my current PLAT directory to the new bandLab version of PLAT. Will play with it and see how it goes.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 19:47:48 (permalink)
Is this Win 64 only? Or is it just the Bandlab Assistant that requires Win 64? 
Is it possible to install a 32-bit version of Cakewalk_By_BandLab ?
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 19:48:47 (permalink)
Thank you Meng, Noel, and everyone at BandLab for your effort! Nothing is perfect, but this is way beyond expectation. I know many more improvement and features will come near future. Thank you so much guys! I personally really appreciate your work. Salute & respect.

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 19:52:02 (permalink)
Ok, so tried to install this alongside my current X3, but noticed that it defaults to ones c:\ drive. Any way to change this?? (i have a fairly small c: and a lot bigger D, E and F partitions where i would normally store my software)
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 19:53:44 (permalink)
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Is this Win 64 only? Or is it just the Bandlab Assistant that requires Win 64? 
Is it possible to install a 32-bit version of Cakewalk_By_BandLab ?


Yes, 64bit only. There will be no 32bit version.
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 19:55:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby my03 2018/04/04 20:23:25
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Ok, so tried to install this alongside my current X3, but noticed that it defaults to ones c:\ drive. Any way to change this?? (i have a fairly small c: and a lot bigger D, E and F partitions where i would normally store my software)


see http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3744203
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 20:02:04 (permalink)
<<you now have the ability to replace Track Templates and enjoy a theme-capable Piano Roll View (easier on the eyes for those late nights).>>
 
Can someone explain how we do these two things in this new version? I seem to be missing it...

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 20:04:46 (permalink)
Fantastic!! Thank you Meng, Noel and Company. Bandlab's support is AMAZING!!

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 20:06:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tobiaslindahl 2018/04/04 20:23:40
Edit: it took me an age to investigate this, during which time more knowledgeable people might have given better info.. check earlier posts
 
I just installed BL Cakewalk on a Windows 10 VM that's never seen SONAR before. Seeing as it was of interest to me and I couldn't find a 100% clear answer, here are some screenshots and notes on my experience (sorry for the train-of-thought style write up):
 
Clean install on first run:
 
Included VST instruments:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ynA3ManFj-w5KyiPoq_GBhd4WTMPqmNQ/view?usp=sharing
 
Included VST effects:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jT8zBROK8405_T5BP-dqo0YUGCdpYEiD/view?usp=sharing
(very pleased to see the VX64 and even the basic TH3 plugin there!)
 
ProChannel Modules:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NbQp0wh6jwbkexhSW8VSZN74vEogGcw3/view?usp=sharing
("BREVERB! nice!".. note that the BREVERB insert plugin isn't present but the ProChannel module is)
 
No doubt the included FX Chains will just be comprised of the included effects
 
I then went on to try to get some things working that I was most concerned about:
 
I lifted the installer for the 'Studio Mixing Suite' out of Cakewalk Command Center (StudioMixingFXSetup_1.0.0.8.exe) and ran it. Got an error complaining that SONAR Platinum isn't installed:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10PLdJZ-Mu46Eoe70mL8Ju5n8zNyjqFs8/view?usp=sharing
much disappoint, I like the chorus and delay in there. I then copied "C:\Program Files\cakewalk\vstplugins\Nomad Factory" from my existing Platinum installation to the new VM to see if there was any activation trouble. There wasn't, all Nomad Factory plugins appeared in BL Cakewalk. Very pleased.
 
The "Platinum Instrument Collection" (PlatinumInstrumentCollectionSetup_1.0.0.17.exe") did not install either, complaining that SPLAT wasn't installed. I tried to copy DLLs for z3ta+ and what I think are related resources but couldn't get it to work. I did not try to manually rip out any other plugins from this collection.
 
Then I lifted the installer for Dimension Pro (which is very important to me personally) and ran that.. Everything installed fine. I was asked to enter my serial number manually during install, and registration code on first run, both of which I got from https://www.cakewalk.com/My-Account/Products (there is no way to see these codes anywhere on bandlab.com to my knowledge). Default install options meant DM Pro was found by BL Cakewalk no problem.
 
I then used the installer for CA-2A leveling amp (CA-2ALevelingAmplifierSetup_2.0.1.112.exe) from Command Center. Ran it without problems, and with BL Cakewalk still running the VST scanner just picked it up.
 
Despite most of the Boutique Suite of plugins being included (PX64/VX64 etc), bifilter2 was missing (which I have also used a lot). Like the Nomad plugins I just ripped it out of "C:\Program Files\vstplugins\" and dropped it into my BL Cakewalk install, and it seems fine.
 
In conclusion:
If you're planning to install BL Cakewalk on a 'clean' Windows install without a SPLAT installation, and want to keep everything you had, bear in mind:
  • Not every installer that Cakewalk Command Center downloaded will run without problems.
  • At the very least you should zip up "C:\Program Files\cakewalk\vstplugins" so that you can dip into it when you need to. However, more complex instruments that aren't just a DLL (like z3ta+) might need more files (from where depends on the plugin).
I hope this is useful to someone...
 
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 20:15:29 (permalink)
I didn't see where I could download Sonar by Bandlab in my Bandlab account. I also did not receive an email notifying me of the release. Where is the download link in our account? Thanks 
 
EDIT: Never mind. Got it.

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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 20:18:17 (permalink)
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EDIT: Never mind. Got it.


Aha, so you did some reading?
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Re: ‘Cakewalk By BandLab’ is here. Free. Available for Windows now. [4/4/2018] 2018/04/04 20:20:12 (permalink)
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(snip) ...The thumb rule is if you are a Platinum user then do the minimal install of CbB since you won't need the extras. At least for this first version.
Removing the platinum executables wont really save you much space so its not worth the bother.



I'm thinking of buying a new PC. On that new PC, can I just install CbB straight from the BandLab installer?  You seem to be saying Noel, that the BandLab installer needs to rely on a previous Sonar Platinum being present to work properly?
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