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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/19 18:36:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2018/04/23 00:20:55
How amazing is it that the owner is listening to the user base?  
 
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/19 21:21:06 (permalink)
I'm a bit confused here and I hope I can understand this new format.
If I download the Bandlab Cakewalk will my Sonar Platinum that I have been using remain fully operational ?
Am I to understand that this new Bandlab DAW runs independently of my existing Sonar Platinum and is an additional software ?
The current Bandlab download is missing many of the items I use on every project such as :
Adaptive Limiter
Channel Tools
Breverb
PX 64 Percussion Strip
Dimension Pro
Lounge Lizzard
True Pianos
Addictive Drums 2
Expansion Packs 1&2
 
Will future versions include these items or are they gone ?
Will Melodyne work on this Bandlab download ?
Thanks
 
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/20 02:07:54 (permalink)
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/20 02:38:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Blackiejames7 2018/04/21 20:12:34
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I'm a bit confused here and I hope I can understand this new format.
If I download the Bandlab Cakewalk will my Sonar Platinum that I have been using remain fully operational ?
Am I to understand that this new Bandlab DAW runs independently of my existing Sonar Platinum and is an additional software ?


Yes, as long as you don't uninstall Bandlab Cakewalk or the original Sonar platinum install. They will both work. I have both and I can easily switch between them, but I prefer using Bandlab Cakewalk. It doesn't crash as much.
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/20 02:42:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Blackiejames7 2018/04/21 20:12:41
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The current Bandlab download is missing many of the items I use on every project such as :
Adaptive Limiter
Channel Tools
Breverb
PX 64 Percussion Strip
Dimension Pro
Lounge Lizzard
True Pianos
Addictive Drums 2
Expansion Packs 1&2


Bandlab Canewalk will piggieback off Sonar Platinum's features so everything will work. They do that because of licensing issues and because this release is free without 3rd party software like Addictive Drums and premium Cakewalk content like Dimension Pro and Adaptive Limiter, but again you can use them all, but you may need to add VST paths when you first load Bandlab Cakewalk.
post edited by Daibhidh - 2018/04/20 03:43:26
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/20 02:48:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Blackiejames7 2018/04/21 20:12:45
Blackiejames7
Will future versions include these items or are they gone ?
Will Melodyne work on this Bandlab download ?
Thanks


My understanding is there will be a for-purchase edition of Bandlab Cakewalk separate from the free version.
It will have things like Dimension Pro, Rapture, etc. in it. It's hush hush for now exactly what the line up will be, but I suspect Bandlab will truly deliver the goods.
And even if something remains missing you'll still be able to use it anyway through piggiebacking off of Sonar.

I haven't tried Melodyne yet on Bandlab, so I can't say for sure.
post edited by Daibhidh - 2018/04/20 03:44:14
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/20 02:48:37 (permalink)
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In the comparison chart I see TL-64 Tube Leveler, PX-64 Percussion Strip and VX-64 Vocal Strip are not included in CbB. They weren't included with Sonar Professional, so upgrading to CbB they showed up. I enabled them and they work.


Can you tell me how you enabled them? I'm in the same boat coming from Sonar Pro.

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/20 02:53:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Frank Harvey 2018/04/20 07:15:18
By the way Meng, if you're reading this.
Thanks for keeping the dream alive.
I was using Cakewalk as a teenager in the late 90s, I really look forward to what your team will do with Cakewalk in the future!
One of the things I really look forward to is seeing all the negative people eat their words as Cakewalk becomes better and better. All the best to you and your's!
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/20 06:37:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby davehorch 2018/04/20 13:56:24
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I did a copy/paste into excel easily....


Hey Giorgio - how'd you do that?  I couldn't get "copy" (or Ctrl-C) to copy anything.  Also "options to download, print and copy have been disabled for this file".  So what's your trick?
 
Thanks, -Dave


Mmmm, there is something very strange: yesterday it worked immediately..... and now it does not work anymore.... 
 
I really don't know....
 
I don't understand why....
 
I saved on my pc an excel version.... but I am unable to do it again....
 
Urghph.....
 
Giorgio
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/20 11:35:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby davehorch 2018/04/20 14:03:41
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DeBro
In the comparison chart I see TL-64 Tube Leveler, PX-64 Percussion Strip and VX-64 Vocal Strip are not included in CbB. They weren't included with Sonar Professional, so upgrading to CbB they showed up. I enabled them and they work.


Can you tell me how you enabled them? I'm in the same boat coming from Sonar Pro.




Go to Utilities > Cakewalk Plugin-in Manager. When the dialog box opens, highlight VST Audio Effects in the list of Plug-in Categories, then select Show Excluded. You should see those three plug-ins in the Registered Plug-ins list. Close the Cakewalk Plugin-in Manager without taking any action. Go to Preferences > VST Settings and click on the Add button. Browse to This PC > Local Disk(C) > Program Files > Cakewalk > Shared Utilities > Internal. Add each of the following folders to the scan directory - StPX64, StTL64, StVX64. Click the Apply button and close the Preferences dialog box. Return to the Cakewalk Plugin-in Manager and proceed as before but this time select each of the three plugins in the Excluded Registered Plug-ins list and then click on the Enable Plugin button to enable them individually, and you'll be all set to use them.

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/20 16:54:19 (permalink)
DeBo. Cool! Many thanks.


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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/20 22:52:41 (permalink)
Thank you !
 
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/20 23:30:58 (permalink)
Great stuff - really useful as an owner of HS - just waiting for the custom install option now :-)
 
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 00:36:18 (permalink)
Much appreciated DeBro.... I thought I saw them listed somewhere when wandering around the CbB . I couldn't remember where to look again.

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 02:48:18 (permalink)
joegab
I did a copy/paste into excel easily....
 
Giorgio


I tried that. Got this message:
"Options to download, print, and copy have been disabled on this file."
 
Just a guess, but maybe someone at Bandlab decided it might be best to limit "customized" versions of the chart that might find their way here or somewhere else on the internet.
post edited by Larry Jones - 2018/04/21 03:13:25

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 08:33:31 (permalink)
OK.........
On This Forum:
I wrote a lengthy and purposeful response to one of our 'members'  ( Yeah ....Member...Right), in the last hour [5pm, 21st April 2018 - Australia] .......about this 'member's disgusting suggestion to Meng as a to a gift for his current successes.
I was so annoyed to see my response suddenly disappeared................WHAT?
.....CENSORSHIP ?
Pls let me know I am not going Mad.
This did not occur Right?
Has all reference to this disgusting post been removed............including my retort ( Brilliant as it Was)......?
At the very least..............Has this sad and pathetic individual been cautioned in regards to his membership of this forum ?
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 08:48:08 (permalink)
PS:Did Anyone else catch this disgusting post .............surely someone  ...?

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 09:25:09 (permalink)
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I did a copy/paste into excel easily....


Hey Giorgio - how'd you do that?  I couldn't get "copy" (or Ctrl-C) to copy anything.  Also "options to download, print and copy have been disabled for this file".  So what's your trick?
 
Thanks, -Dave


Mmmm, there is something very strange: yesterday it worked immediately..... and now it does not work anymore.... 
 
I really don't know....
 
I don't understand why....
 
I saved on my pc an excel version.... but I am unable to do it again....
 
Urghph.....
 
Giorgio


seems like they changed the permissions after the initial publication

just a sec

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 10:21:19 (permalink)
Can't seem to open this file on an android tablet. Surely a web based technology company can find a more universal and accessible format to share this information on one of their websites? A very long time fan of all things Cakewalk, I will add it to the list of reasons I am rapibly losing interest in CbB.
 
 

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 10:49:12 (permalink)
The "how one does business" can can sometimes tell more than anything else about companies.

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 11:45:19 (permalink)
Great Very Helpful,
Thanks for your time and effort
 
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 13:02:00 (permalink)
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Will future versions include these items or are they gone ?
Will Melodyne work on this Bandlab download ?
Thanks


My understanding is there will be a for-purchase edition of Bandlab Cakewalk separate from the free version.
It will have things like Dimension Pro, Rapture, etc. in it. It's hush hush for now exactly what the line up will be, but I suspect Bandlab will truly deliver the goods.
And even if something remains missing you'll still be able to use it anyway through piggiebacking off of Sonar.

I haven't tried Melodyne yet on Bandlab, so I can't say for sure.


There will not be a for purchase edition of CbB. There will however be paid for fx and instrument plugins. No details on what and when yet.
I believe that CbB will ask to import Sonar settings on first startup. If you missed that then to make sure that CbB can see Sonar plugin is to point CbB to the same plugin paths as Sonar.

Yes Melodyne works as an ARA plugin in CbB.
post edited by mudgel - 2018/04/22 06:24:58

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 15:53:16 (permalink)
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Can't seem to open this file on an android tablet. Surely a web based technology company can find a more universal and accessible format to share this information on one of their websites? A very long time fan of all things Cakewalk, I will add it to the list of reasons I am rapibly losing interest in CbB.
 
 


It opened perfectly well on my android phone. I just tried it on my son's android tablet, and that was fine, too.

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 20:14:16 (permalink)
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Thanks for the useful information I appreciate it. 
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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 21:07:40 (permalink)
AWESOME!! Thank you, Meng and Team.

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/21 21:36:27 (permalink)
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In the comparison chart I see TL-64 Tube Leveler, PX-64 Percussion Strip and VX-64 Vocal Strip are not included in CbB. They weren't included with Sonar Professional, so upgrading to CbB they showed up. I enabled them and they work.
 
Go to Utilities > Cakewalk Plugin-in Manager. When the dialog box opens, highlight VST Audio Effects in the list of Plug-in Categories, then select Show Excluded. You should see those three plug-ins in the Registered Plug-ins list. Close the Cakewalk Plugin-in Manager without taking any action. Go to Preferences > VST Settings and click on the Add button. Browse to This PC > Local Disk(C) > Program Files > Cakewalk > Shared Utilities > Internal. Add each of the following folders to the scan directory - StPX64, StTL64, StVX64. Click the Apply button and close the Preferences dialog box. Return to the Cakewalk Plugin-in Manager and proceed as before but this time select each of the three plugins in the Excluded Registered Plug-ins list and then click on the Enable Plugin button to enable them individually, and you'll be all set to use them.




Excellent. Thank you.

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/22 06:30:10 (permalink)
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Can't seem to open this file on an android tablet. Surely a web based technology company can find a more universal and accessible format to share this information on one of their websites? A very long time fan of all things Cakewalk, I will add it to the list of reasons I am rapibly losing interest in CbB.
 
 


Which file? Surely you’re not talking about Cakewalk by BandLab (Sonar replacement).
BandLab, the social media music platform has an Android and an IOS app. Or via your browser on a PC, preferably Chrome as it handles low latency audio much better than any other browser.

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/22 06:37:32 (permalink)
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tenfoot
Can't seem to open this file on an android tablet. Surely a web based technology company can find a more universal and accessible format to share this information on one of their websites? A very long time fan of all things Cakewalk, I will add it to the list of reasons I am rapibly losing interest in CbB.
 
 


Which file? Surely you’re not talking about Cakewalk by BandLab (Sonar replacement).
BandLab, the social media music platform has an Android and an IOS app. Or via your browser on a PC, preferably Chrome as it handles low latency audio much better than any other browser.



Can't be sure but I'd say he is talking about the Comparison Chart, the subject of this thread, I could be wrong.

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/22 09:29:02 (permalink)
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tenfoot
Can't seem to open this file on an android tablet. Surely a web based technology company can find a more universal and accessible format to share this information on one of their websites? A very long time fan of all things Cakewalk, I will add it to the list of reasons I am rapibly losing interest in CbB.




Which file? Surely you’re not talking about Cakewalk by BandLab (Sonar replacement).
BandLab, the social media music platform has an Android and an IOS app. Or via your browser on a PC, preferably Chrome as it handles low latency audio much better than any other browser.



Can't be sure but I'd say he is talking about the Comparison Chart, the subject of this thread, I could be wrong.


Quite right matron.  No interest in the Bandlab platform and Apps. 
 
No biggie. I have opened it on my media server PC. Just making the point that a google doc upload of a  comparison chart doesn't really scream slick rollout:)
 
Early days for CbB. Hoping it is in good hands and has a bright future for those sticking with it.. Time will tell.

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Re: Cakewalk By BandLab vs SONAR Versions Comparison Chart [4/19/2018] 2018/04/22 10:33:38 (permalink)
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