tenfoot
Just making the point that a google doc upload of a  comparison chart doesn't really scream slick rollout:)
 
Early days for CbB. Hoping it is in good hands and has a bright future for those sticking with it.. Time will tell.

It is quite common to respond to forum request for information with a linked spreadsheet (or whatever format is most suited to the content of the answer).
 
I wouldn't compare this to a rollout attempt because as far as I am aware it was not posted to the public on the Bandlab home page.  The intended audience is this forum, and that response is totally acceptable.

Blackiejames7
Diabhidh
Thanks for the useful information I appreciate it. 

Happy to help. This is a game changing event for Cakewalk users for sure.

Unless you bought Rapture, Dim Pro or the Z3ta's as separate synths, I don't see BandLab including them.  I would expect Rapture Pro to be on sale, soon, probably one of the first "pay to add to CbB" products for BandLab. How is BandLab supposed to make money if they give away synths that take sales from their premium synths?  However, if you bought those synths originally you can, of course, use your DVDs to load them.
 
I also don't think there is a lot of money floating around for VSTs - Wave is selling plugs and collections for pennies on the old dollar amounts.  That sets a bottom to the market.   However, Cake's SSL buss comp is as good as any soft comp I've used and BandLab could sell the whole SSL channel (the rest of the items in their chain are good, too!) as a collection.   The 1176, La2a clone and EQ are all good and I could see BandLab releasing those in Waves' $29 range or collections for $50.
 
It doesn't matter how much BandLab paid for SONAR - they can't  pay for it by giving it away (cue the old joke about losing money on your product but making up for that w/ quantity).  However, you can ameliorate the costs by selling older products polished up (since PC modules are sized VSTs, it shouldn't take much to make them bigger etc.).  There is a modest market for those and the synths, esp. if they have a largish market share with their free DAW.  I appreciate what BandLab is doing but I don't want them to go broke by giving away the store.

SmilingCrow

ATNice.  The only problem is that CbB is at the far end of the columns, and it is almost impossible to easily track back to what is missing. Start the columns w/ CbB and then it becomes apparent what is included and not without having to drag the screen from one side of the chart to the other side.  That is what we need to see, not what SONAR Artist is missing.  I'm working w/ a small screen here.

Agreed and another solution is to copy the first column so that it is now the first and last column which makes it close whichever side you are viewing from.
 

The quickest way is to set the zoom to 90% or lower.

While there has been discussion about Rapture Pro, it is not clear if BandLab intend to migrate any of the older Cakewalk synths bundled with previous products. You still should have access to your Cakewalk account. You may want to download the installers from there or use the Cakewalk Command Center.

Looks like this comparison chart needs to be updated to include the new 2018.04.01 update! 
 
Looks like the Theme Editor + Drum Replacer + Studio Instruments + POW-r dithering need to be added! Did I miss something? :-)

scook
Studio Instruments are listed. Pow-r is not and was not in the original SONAR comparison document (also see Noel's comment regarding pow-r. I do  not look for comparisons with SONAR to continue.

I thought they enhanced/expanded the Studio Instruments in some way... maybe I misunderstood! Apologies for confusion! 

I was never given any options when downloading. I assume Cakewalk just knew I had this stuff installed and didn't install it again?
 

As the troll rolls by ... 

phil5633
Noel, thanks for the clarification. Are there any plans to add any missing SPLAT functionallity to CbB? In particular, will ProChannel and all those Cakewalk and 3rd party modules be added to CbB? I've really enjoyed doing 80% of mixes in ProChannel but believe I can (probably after buying a few new plugings) do pretty much the same things in the FX bin. So I realize this isn't a critical addition.
 
And on the downside of using ProChannel, I've often had trouble had problems inserting/moving FX Chains in ProChannel strips; and adding/deleting/moving effects in FX Chains. Others have demonstrated they don't have that problem. So I've been hopeful that I could solve the problem and kept using it even with the problems.

 
CbB does have ProChannel. There is a whole batch of ProChannel stuff listed starting at line 87 that are in CbB already. The QuadCurve EQ and Zoom are there, PC76 U-Type Channel Compressor, PC4K S-Type Bus Compressor, Console Emulator, Tape Emulator, Tube Saturation, Softube Saturation Knob, FX Chain, BREVERB SONAR, REmatrix Solo and Style Dial FX are all marked as included in the Early Access CbB.

As has been pointed out several times above, 3rd party plugs (ie., the ones the old Cakewalk paid others to include in version of SONAR, Proaudio, etc.) will probably not (read won't) be included in any future CbB since they would have to option them all over again.  Blue Tubes, Lounge Lizard and Addictive are such programs.
 
BandLab bought the skeleton and plan on adding more functions and new effects, not the old stuff.  That is how I read it, anyway.  

abacab
 
Just to add to this, if you already have the 3rd party plugins from a previous Sonar Platinum installed, they shouldn't be removed by adding CbB.  You should be able to run them side by side, with CbB scanning and using the available Sonar content.  It's just that some Sonar content will not be available standalone to CbB, unless you already have Sonar Platinum installed.
 
The only thing that I may be missing here is if any of the 3rd party content detects that CbB is not actually Sonar Platinum, and therefore refuses to run.  Anybody got feedback on this?

Two parts here - one - do not uninstall SPlat. It keeps the third party software activated - where necessary.  And - two - so far, all the VST and Plugins I've tried worked with CbB. I have not tried everything, though, so your mileage will likely vary.

My Melodyne is purchased and not part of the original SPlat and is "universal" - I don't need SPlat to run it - so it probably doesn't count as tested.

Is this the final comparison?
 
Would be nice to be able to save / copy.  
 

abacab

AT
 

... some Sonar content will not be available standalone to CbB, unless you already have Sonar Platinum installed.
 
The only thing that I may be missing here is if any of the 3rd party content detects that CbB is not actually Sonar Platinum, and therefore refuses to run.  Anybody got feedback on this?

The main reason I've chosen to stay away from the Bandlab thing altogether is concerns about uninterrupted functionality.
Am I correct to assume that this means I get no more updates? (last one with regular Sonar Platinum was October 2017). I'm concerned that I have to DOWNLOAD (!?!) Cakewalk by Bandlab, when I already have Sonar Platinum. I don't want to risk losing plug-ins, functionality, or any existing projects.
If it's a seamless transition with no risk of any loss of any functions, that would be one thing. But If I have to download a new version of something I already have, that concerns me.