Kroneborge

chuckebaby

Kroneborge


I hate the splash.   It needs to go into the background.   I do other stuff while Sonar loads.

have you turned off your "scan plug ins at start up off?..beagle taught me that a while back..love the feature..my songs load slow though..only when i use session drummer..usually a project with rapture or c.w.ss. loads pretty quick..by the way matthew..those sound packs they gave away..did you ever figure out where to put them?..what folder they go in..i cant..just installed last night..there showing up in odd places..figured i could ask you for help on that one if you dont mind..i dont want to highjack this thread so i will p.m. you later tonight if thats okay with you?
thanks man.

No I haven't turned it off, I will look into that.
 
Also see this thread about the files.
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2194004
 
 

its in the preference menu..it saves alot of time for peeps like you + i who have a lot of plugs that scan them at start up...its under the vst settings.about the files...thanks bro.

A1MixMan


I just checkmarked the option to scan plug-ins at start up. And it scans my whole folder each time I start X1. So it takes along time to start.

It should not do that...hmmm. It does this each time you launch X1? And you have rescan existing unchecked?

confirmed splash is up and gone in 2-3 sec.s very fast.loading projects on the other hand..well if i have sd3 and some serious plugs...up to 30 seconds at times....blank templete loads almost immeadiatley.

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
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A1MixMan


I just checkmarked the option to scan plug-ins at start up. And it scans my whole folder each time I start X1. So it takes along time to start.

It should not do that...hmmm. It does this each time you launch X1? And you have rescan existing unchecked?

Second try at posting. I hate when I type an entire post and then somehow disincorporate it before I hit post. But on the bright side, this one should be more concise.

Mixman, do you have X1b installed? I was having the same problem with X1a, every startup scanned all my plugins and took a loooooong time, so I unchecked scan at startup (and no, re-scan existing was not checked either). I installed X1b a few days ago, and I forgot that I had disabled this, so I re-enabled it just now and tested it and it seems to be working as described. On the first startup it scanned a number of plugins in the cakewalk\vstplugins folder (which I assume had been updated in the X1b install) and a few Native Instruments plugins in the default vstplugins folder for which I had recently installed updates (and not yet manually re-scanned). Subsequent startups didn't scan anything.

This is the expected behavior, I believe, but X1a was not behaving this way, and was indeed rescanning everything every time.

Kroneborge


Sonar is DEFINTELY running through all my plugins at startup.  It's been over 45 seconds.

Try running it again and check the timing.

Assuming you don't have the VST scanner set to Rescan Existing or Rescan Failed...
My experience is the first time you run a scan on a given day it does a more thorough scan which takes longer.

I just ran the scanner a couple of times, as a double check, and the first scan froze paused on a couple of plug-ins that haven't been touched in ages. Subsequent scans are now very fast.

If I run the scan tomorrow the same pattern will repeat.

Edit:
BTW The daily scan is much quicker than scanning with the RescanExisting option.

TheSteven

Kroneborge


Sonar is DEFINTELY running through all my plugins at startup.  It's been over 45 seconds.

Try running it again and check the timing.

Assuming you don't have the VST scanner set to Rescan Existing or Rescan Failed...
My experience is the first time you run a scan on a given day it does a more thorough scan which takes longer.

I just ran the scanner a couple of times, as a double check, and the first scan froze paused on a couple of plug-ins that haven't been touched in ages. Subsequent scans are now very fast.

If I run the scan tomorrow the same pattern will repeat.

Edit:
BTW The daily scan is much quicker than scanning with the RescanExisting option.

Yes, it always runs quicker after I have to restart from a crash.

Anyway, I turned off the scan at start, so hopefully it shouldn't be an issue.

The screen still shouldn't stay on top.

Carissa Swenson

6stringsat100mph


It is amazing to me that someone who has a $15,000 bundle of waves plugs plus the cost of the others that are on the OP's system and is just now joining this forum (this is his first post) asking such a basic question regarding cake's awesome software.

I wonder just how much real help a torrent user such as this guy expects to get from a law abiding (for the most part) group, such as the ones that are here.

I am not trying to start a problem I just can't imagine how someone who has clearly stolen his software can come in here and act all uppity while asking for help in the same breath.

the answer lies in the "Phuckwad pricipal" I imagine.

Mark

You know, in my country OP could take you to court and ride you quite a way for this baseless accusation of larceny.
 
In general, as well, most sensible adults would consider you a maladjusted individual for your bitter language and cheap regard for others that you don't know.  You have no real reason to have posted on this thread at all, but to show your backside as you have.
 
Carissa

welcome to the forum.....but these comments are the bases of what makes this forum so great.you can speak your mind..and please note..ever since someone mentioned this..the op has been no where to be found. maybe your not aware of piracy..but its real and its out there..and its sad when your paying  alot of money for something that someone is stealing for free..i guess thats the beauty of this forum.these are only guesses not acusations..(well maybe they are the same thing)
but i too find it a little strange the op comes in here on a rant,talking about his waves bundle..and now he gets over 70 REPLYS !!!..and has nothing to say...dont you find it a little funny??

maybe he was put off by the replies?

chuckebaby

Neole


Well there should not be the problem in the first place. Surely sonar should be automatically able to figure out a way to show more plugins the same way that Nuendo does. 

For those who like to organise their plugins the organise feature is good, but theres lots of lazy disorganised composers like me who dont like to get the 'organise your plugin' message everytime I load a project.

how is the plug in manager supposed to read the mind of every plug in you put in

I can only assume you've never used Nuendo or Cubase. When the competition can do it, you should be able to as well.

hey neole,
sure have..ive got cubase loaded up right next to x1..but youd never know it cause i dont use it.its not as good as x1 ...by the way can you manage your plug ins inside of cubebase???..no you cant..you need to mange them in windows explorer.so please dont try and sell me on something that isnt there.

BEATZM1D10T
I guess Pro Tools should get fast bounce and not have to scan all the plug-ins on startup then eh? Oh, wait, they don't have too. They are the industry standard

I wouldn't call the way Pro Tools handles VSTs the industry standard.

Not sure how Pro Tools handles loading its list of RTAS plug-ins but unless RTAS plug-ins record their installation in the Windows registry (as is the case of DirectX plug-ins) it would have to scan at some point to identify new or updated plug-ins.

chuckebaby

Carissa Swenson

6stringsat100mph


It is amazing to me that someone who has a $15,000 bundle of waves plugs plus the cost of the others that are on the OP's system and is just now joining this forum (this is his first post) asking such a basic question regarding cake's awesome software.

I wonder just how much real help a torrent user such as this guy expects to get from a law abiding (for the most part) group, such as the ones that are here.
I am not trying to start a problem I just can't imagine how someone who has clearly stolen his software can come in here and act all uppity while asking for help in the same breath.

the answer lies in the "Phuckwad pricipal" I imagine.

Mark

You know, in my country OP could take you to court and ride you quite a way for this baseless accusation of larceny.
 
In general, as well, most sensible adults would consider you a maladjusted individual for your bitter language and cheap regard for others that you don't know.  You have no real reason to have posted on this thread at all, but to show your backside as you have.
 
Carissa

welcome to the forum.....but these comments are the bases of what makes this forum so great.you can speak your mind..and please note..ever since someone mentioned this..the op has been no where to be found. maybe your not aware of piracy..but its real and its out there..and its sad when your paying  alot of money for something that someone is stealing for free..i guess thats the beauty of this forum.these are only guesses not acusations..(well maybe they are the same thing)
but i too find it a little strange the op comes in here on a rant,talking about his waves bundle..and now he gets over 70 REPLYS !!!..and has nothing to say...dont you find it a little funny??

Really, mate, who made you the coppers?  Your on a real stretch of holiness there, bloke.  Kindofa turn off for a new lad like myself.  You don't know who has whats or who divi'd-up for what.  You envy his software purchases?  Real stretch, mate.

I often get to test Plugins as part of various projects I do and can have hundreds of the pesky critters on my system.

I believe there's a windows limit if aomethign ion the order of 700 or so in one screen. Even without the plugin manager you can do a lot to organise plugins by placing them in folders according to the manufacturer eg. here's an extract of my

C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Vstplugins\ folder

Cakewalk Sound Center
Cakewalk_64
DropZone
EastWest
iZotope
Multifreek
Native Instruments
Perfect Space
Rapture LE
RXP
Session Drummer 2
Session Drummer 3
SFZ
Square I
Toontrack
Truepianos
Voxengo
Yellow Tools
z3ta+

It loads plugins according to the folder they are in. It also makes it easy when installing a plugin from the same manufacturer and means if I don't want to I don't have to do any further organizing in the Plugin Manager.
 
here is a screen shot to show you what it looks like in the browser
 
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Obviously you have to expand individual folders but that's always going to be the case.

Don't forget you probably also offended the Swedish.. And if I were an American I'd be offended by your inference your legal system is non-functional. I'm also pretty sure even though you have a right to freedom of speech, you also have a court system full of people being sued for slander.

SH

...despite having amassed nearly three hundred VSTs.

 
Wow, I must need more VSTs!

I gave up trying to count how many VST's I have... ...last count I found over 400...across 3 computers...