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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/26 18:37:07
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I know it's relatively trivial but I'm really pleased the mp3 encoder finally got updated and fixed. This is something I have to use multiple times on almost every project and it saves a bunch of clicks. I bought it more than a year ago and I can finally use it!
I'm intrigued by the mention of FabFilter VST3 handling improvements. Does anyone know what was wrong there? I haven't noticed anything, though I generally don't do anything very crazy with them.
One thing that had me worried was AudioSnap edits saved in X3 not being picked up by Platinum. I'm pretty sure I've bounced my edits (I usually do because otherwise they sound terrible) but I've definitely moved a few projects from X3 to Platinum that had AudioSnap stuff in them at some point. Was it just the panel settings or actual moved transients?
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/26 19:40:37
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scook
... and the samples may not be in the right place although I am not sure exactly what to look for.
* Scook is correct for this. Whilst it works in Dimension Pro sticking a whole load of .sfz files in the root of the multisamples folder is simply unacceptable. It has been packaged badly.
Also
* The hardgrove collection just copies to the default area and does not honour the folder path for rapture in the registry. You need to move it to the multisamples folder manually afterwards (if it is in a different place).
* Boost 11 which appears to be installed on every update is also hard coded and does not honour the existing file path.
This is a mess that needs fixing.
Check the readme file for info on the 57 goldtop samples
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/26 19:56:21
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At least they tried to document it, but even the workaround does not work. If you follow the workaround it eventually crashes Sonar, you then realise you have to run Sonar as administrator... Once you've done that and followed instructions you get a log file like this: File d:\cakewalk content\dimension pro\multisamples\goldtopneck\sfz\goldtopneck\d2.wav not found or couldn't be loaded. This should not have happened. It appears they knew there were issues before it was released. Even if the workaround had worked expecting us to do this was every sample (30+) is not acceptable. If the package itself was half baked (looks like they knew it before it was released) they should just have delayed the release of just these samples by a week. Looks like the deadlines got in the way of reliability. I hope this does not happen again. I think there should be an patch along with the control panel issue to wipe these samples and install it properly now, along with the two other issues I mentioned. But to be clear it does work for me if I keep the samples in the root of the multisamples folders (again not acceptable but I can live with this until a patch gets released).
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/03/26 20:24:19
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/26 20:01:34
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I found the missing DPro programs and it may be unique to my installation which is non-standard.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/26 20:36:18
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In your case I suspect it is both, there's no doubt the installer behaves in a non standard fashion as well.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/26 20:48:05
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mrneil2
"Braintree"
"Cambridge"
Do I sense a pattern here?
Duxbury or Danvers next?
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/26 23:24:02
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Sanderxpander
I know it's relatively trivial but I'm really pleased the mp3 encoder finally got updated and fixed. This is something I have to use multiple times on almost every project and it saves a bunch of clicks. I bought it more than a year ago and I can finally use it!<snip>
Hi Sander (or anyone)- I have the MP3 encoder from (I think it was) Pro Audio 9. It's been a while, but IIRC, I had to install that each time I installed a new version of SONAR. Is that now ancient version updated with Cambridge, if you know? I have other options, so it's not the end of the world if not. Thanks- -Susan
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/26 23:28:06
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The old PA9 CD does not work anymore but you are still entitled to unlock the mp3 encoder for free. Contact support and request the unlock program to replace the PA9 process. Cambridge has an update to the encoder which has been bundled with SONAR for a long time.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/26 23:29:56
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scook
The old PA9 CD does not work anymore but you are still entitled to unlock the mp3 encoder for free. Contact support and request the unlock program to replace the PA9 process. Cambridge has an update to the encoder which has been bundled with SONAR for a long time.
Perfect! Thanks again, Steve! -Susan
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 00:17:26
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This should not have happened. It appears they knew there were issues before it was released. The Troubleshooting section was included for the benefit of people who have non-standard installations. Those with standard installations shouldn't need to do anything.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 00:28:34
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I'm liking this update. How long have we been able to narrow or widen a single channel in Console View? Is it new or have I missed something that's been around for ages? I now noticed when I opened an existing project after the update and one f my channel strips was wide while the rest were all narrow.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 00:36:41
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I'm liking this update. How long have we been able to narrow or widen a single channel in Console View? Is it new or have I missed something that's been around for ages? I now noticed when I opened an existing project after the update and one f my channel strips was wide while the rest were all narrow.
Hi Mike- Since X3 at least (which is when I dipped my toe in again). -Susan
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 00:38:15
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This should not have happened. It appears they knew there were issues before it was released. Anderton
The Troubleshooting section was included for the benefit of people who have non-standard installations. Those with standard installations shouldn't need to do anything.
You are missing/watering down my point, I have never ever ever had an issue with installing DPRO samples on what you might deem a "non standard" installation until now (if "non standard" means that CCC doesn't bother looking at the registry settings by design, unlike other installers) and I've installed quite a few of them, so there is no reason why special effort should be applied (and it is actually a lot of special effort pointing to a load of files that fail to link up). ... and regardless all the samples should not be installed to the root of the multisamples folder that's a big no no. That's the main issue. That's never happened before either. Also as I said the workaround does not work. The only thing "non standard" appears to be the installation routine which it seems Cakewalk was well aware of. The installation was sub-standard - I do sometimes feel like I'm installing Linux sometimes. Everything will be fine when it gets patched I hope... The developer will be well aware of the issue when they compare this installation to any other Dimension Pro sample installation routine, it didn't go through quality control well and corners were clearly cut. x
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 00:40:54
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There ya go. I'd never tried. Because I wasn't aware it had become possible. As I said even this time was an accident. Thanks for letting me know Susan.
There's always something to find and something to learn except for scook because he knows everything Sonar. I think secretly he's part of the Sonar code.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 00:47:39
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There ya go. I'd never tried. Because I wasn't aware it had become possible. As I said even this time was an accident. Thanks for letting me know Susan.
There's always something to find and something to learn except for scook because he knows everything Sonar. I think secretly he's part of the Sonar code.
Yeah, I think he's gotten himself embedded in there somehow; simply amazing! And you're welcome  ! -Susan
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 00:50:57
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The only thing "non standard" appears to be the installation routine which it seems Cakewalk was well aware of.
First of all, where Dim Pro and Rapture install multisamples and programs seems like something out of the dark ages of steam-powered synths, so I'm with you on that. But I, not Cakewalk, wrote the Troubleshooting section due to issues with some Expansion Packs I had installed in Dim Pro over the years. Cakewalk was not aware of any issues with the Gold Top because in all their tests on various machines, everything installed as it should. However because based on past experience I knew issues could arise, I wrote a section which I hoped would be helpful if people encountered problems.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:00:16
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What I mean by "non standard" is in reference to other Dimension Pro install routines. Craig I know you mean well, but the workaround does not work as I stated a few posts ago, and other Dimension Pro installations work perfectly well, and the samples end up in the root of the multisamples folder, I suspect this happens for """standard""" installations as well... The samples are really good and it works, that's the main thing, I just get frustrated when files get installed to the wrong place and are not organised to the usual standards, and I can't even move them around via the usual manual methods. I know there are probably bigger issues but this is a new one, packaging is really important. In this case there is no other alternative "manual" method of install. Don't worry I'm patient, I know there will be an fix to sort this out soon enough (hopefully with the control panel).... Thanks...
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:04:37
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Craig I know you mean well, but the workaround does not work as I stated a few posts ago, and other Dimension Pro installations work perfectly well, and the samples end up in the root of the multisamples folder, I suspect this happens for """standard""" installations as well...
Well I don't know about the installation aspect, I just do the content. But this is a workaround I've used before, and I tested it with the Gold Top, so not sure why it didn't work in your case. The only thing I can think of it I made a mistake in documenting the workaround. I'll check.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:05:58
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Do you not have .sfz files like this in your installation? Two confirmed so far.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:13:14
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.. and the installation should be picking up where dimension pro samples are being stored in the registry.
There have been many complaints about CCC but it generally respects the file paths as stored in the registry making upgrades pretty good apart from ... see #30. (hardgrove/boost11)
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:16:44
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I have those .sfz files in my D:\Dimension Pro\Multisamples folder as well after the update. I'm pretty sure they should be in a subfolder.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:18:35
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Okay, I just got an email from Cakewalk. The problem is that's how my programs referenced the SFZs. I was keeping the SFZs separate because I was moving the Expansion Pack between two different computers (at home/on the road) and kept the multisamples, SFZs, and programs separate to make it easier to do transfers. The SFZs should have been in a folder that also had the multisamples. As you pointed out, the way it is now does "work," but it's messy.
I told Cakewalk if they could provide me the locations for where things are supposed to be, I could create a new set of programs that reference the correct locations and that could be done as an update to tidy up the multisamples folders.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:23:15
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Thanks Craig excellent feedback, let them know about boost11 and hardgrove if possible as well (#30) - thanks...
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:27:55
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2015/03/27 03:37:32
I so wish there was only one main thread for the Cambridge release! What was wrong with the sticky? I've been ping-ponging back and forth for the past few hours trying to keep current!
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:29:00
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That's how it got installed here. So 3 at least. Doktor Avalanche
Do you not have .sfz files like this in your installation? Two confirmed so far.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:29:43
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☄ Helpfulby Keni 2015/03/27 16:29:19
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Thanks Craig excellent feedback, let them know about boost11 and hardgrove if possible as well (#30) - thanks...
If you want bullet proof relocation for Multisample folders use a directory junction. It can be added to your current installation in addition to the registry edit even though it makes the registry edit redundant. For example, I have Rapture multisamples in N:\Cakewalk\Rapture\Multisamples so I added a junction by running cmd.exe as administrator an typing: mklink /j "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Rapture\Multisamples" "N:\Cakewalk\Rapture\Multisamples" The installers have no choice but to put that data on N:.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:34:53
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Welcome to the wonderful world of software development. Even if you're just doing content, you have to be aware of how it gets installed and cooperate with current practice. Part of the job description, basically it's an exercise in Kegels and holding your mouth correctly. It's all good, we'll cut you some slack... this time. :) Anderton
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Craig I know you mean well, but the workaround does not work as I stated a few posts ago, and other Dimension Pro installations work perfectly well, and the samples end up in the root of the multisamples folder, I suspect this happens for """standard""" installations as well...
Well I don't know about the installation aspect, I just do the content. But this is a workaround I've used before, and I tested it with the Gold Top, so not sure why it didn't work in your case.
The only thing I can think of it I made a mistake in documenting the workaround. I'll check.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:46:58
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Doktor Avalanche
Thanks Craig excellent feedback, let them know about boost11 and hardgrove if possible as well (#30) - thanks...
scook
If you want bullet proof relocation for Multisample folders use a directory junction. It can be added to your current installation in addition to the registry edit even though it makes the registry edit redundant. For example, I have Rapture multisamples in N:\Cakewalk\Rapture\Multisamples so I added a junction by running cmd.exe as administrator an typing:
mklink /j "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Rapture\Multisamples" "N:\Cakewalk\Rapture\Multisamples"
The installers have no choice but to put that data on N:.
Let us agree to disagree. I expect as a basic requirement that all software should look at existing file path registry entries when upgrading, or install to a known data folder stored in the registry. Up until now all samples have been installing to the correct locations just fine for rapture what we have here is clearly a bug or the logic was weirdly forgotten about. I see the uses but I have never needed to use symbolic links, I would only use them when all other options are exhausted (very useful in Linux however or for people petrified of the registry).
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 01:48:42
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Craig,
Ideally what you want to do is:
Goldtop Neck/
patch1.sfz
patch2.sfz
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readme.txt if appropriate
Goldtop Neck Samples/
sample1.wav
sample2.wav
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 02:01:29
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Doktor Avalanche
Let us agree to disagree. I expect as a basic requirement that all software should look at existing file path registry entries when upgrading, or install to a known data folder stored in the registry. Up until now all samples have been installing to the correct locations just fine for rapture what we have here is clearly a bug or the logic was weirdly forgotten about.
I see the uses but I have never needed to use symbolic links, I would only use them when all other options are exhausted (very useful in Linux however or for people petrified of the registry).
I don't know what you are disagreeing with, I only provided a way to insure the samples find their way into the correct folder. Use it, don't use it, does not matter to me. It is not true that samples have always installed in the directory referenced in the registry. Rapture has had a history going back many years of ignoring registry redirection.
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