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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 03:51:46
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To be honest I think all this "manual" and "workaround" stuff defeats the point of the stated purpose of the CCC. Which was to provide limited options but make sure everything works with minimal user input.
I don't really understand why we had to manually add impulses last month and if this becomes a regular thing I will just let most content pass me by. I appreciate goodies but with updates this frequent, I'll go crazy if I have to figure out some manual installation everytime for something that I may or may not use. Twice, too, to keep things in sync with my laptop.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 04:01:18
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To my knowledge, there are no manual or workaround requirements for a C3 install of Cambridge. I believe Cakewalk did not want to bulk up the user preset area of REmatrix automatically. So instead of populating the database, they provided the IRs and a discussion of how to manage the user preset area. User preset management is not a strong feature of REmatrix Solo.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 04:08:57
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scook Rapture has had a history going back many years of ignoring registry redirection.
Rapture doesn't install the samples Scook it's the install routine supplied with the package... Regardless it's 2015, asking for installers that refers to existing stored file paths in the registry ... Well you really shouldn't have to ask. I never had an issue until now.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 04:12:14
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scook To my knowledge, there are no manual or workaround requirements for a C3 install of Cambridge. I believe Cakewalk did not want to bulk up the user preset area of REmatrix automatically. So instead of populating the database, they provided the IRs and a discussion of how to manage the user preset area. User preset management is not a strong feature of REmatrix Solo.
Am I misunderstanding this whole Les Paul/DimPro thing? I thought it didn't work properly for a bunch of folks here and they've been busy sorting it with the included manual?
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 04:24:21
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Doktor Avalanche
scook Rapture has had a history going back many years of ignoring registry redirection.
Rapture doesn't install the samples Scook it's the install routine supplied with the package... Regardless it's 2015, asking for installers that refers to existing stored file paths in the registry ... Well you really shouldn't have to ask.
I never had an issue until now.
Don't know which 3rd party libraries you have installed or how long you have used Rapture. I have walked more than one user through moving misplaced Rapture data. There are a variety of routines (if you prefer that term of art) currently used to install samples for Rapture. These routines all have their roots with Cakewalk but are supplied by a variety of software vendors. The age of the install routine matters too because the Rapture registry entry has been renamed a while back. While it would be nice for all the install routines to respect the current registry, they do not, even in 2015. Knowing a way which guarantees a correct result is good enough for me. I don't have to ask all the vendors to fix their routines. But I won't complain should the install routines get updated.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 04:26:35
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Sanderxpander
scook To my knowledge, there are no manual or workaround requirements for a C3 install of Cambridge. I believe Cakewalk did not want to bulk up the user preset area of REmatrix automatically. So instead of populating the database, they provided the IRs and a discussion of how to manage the user preset area. User preset management is not a strong feature of REmatrix Solo.
Am I misunderstanding this whole Les Paul/DimPro thing? I thought it didn't work properly for a bunch of folks here and they've been busy sorting it with the included manual?
Yes, you are misunderstanding the issue. The Les Paul package installs OK but there is a cosmetic issue WRT the layout of the Multisample component. I actually did bother to reorganize it...it took a couple of minutes to rebuild the programs.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 06:00:00
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Right, sorry, I thought people were saying it didn't work to begin with. Regardless, I feel that if you provide a one option, "this is how we install it because it works" control center, it should be more painless than it is now. I don't care for the way we had to add the impulses, personally.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 09:36:27
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Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
mrneil2 "Braintree" "Cambridge" Do I sense a pattern here?
The initial release was code named "Allston"
I'll take that as a yes!!
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 11:20:30
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@Sanderxpander: I also find the present method of loading user IR files into ReMatrix a little, well I'll come out and say it, a lot of BS!
I can see why Overloud wanted to go that route. To get users to upgrade to the full version. Although it is a great little addition to Splat, I will just use other programs I have for loading my IR instead of going through all the mess to load the room ( or Church, hall, on and on...) IR I want to use with ReMatrix.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 11:25:44
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Grem I can see why Overloud wanted to go that route. To get users to upgrade to the full version.
I doubt the motivation was to encourage upgrades. Overloud has always imported IRs into their products rather than reading them from a user defined directory. With REmatrix they took it one step further placing the IRs in a SQLite database.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 12:22:04
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So scook, I am assuming that the full version lets you import all your IR into menu accessible from with the full version.
Your saying this is not the case?
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 12:47:58
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John I love the idea Craig. A review of things that will work with Sonar is a great idea. Perhaps members might to be induced to contribute too? I know Dave AKA Bitfipper did some reviews a while back that were outstanding. If this is also part of the membership it will be a wonderful valued added extra.
+1 from here.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 14:11:58
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Grem So scook, I am assuming that the full version lets you import all your IR into menu accessible from with the full version.
Your saying this is not the case?
I don't have the full version but reading the manual, it appears the import process is pretty much the same. I have not been a fan of the way Overloud has handled user IRs in the past and REmatrix looks like it will not change my opinion. When I want to use my own IR library, I use MMultiBandConvolution which goes on sale frequently for around $27.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 14:18:34
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scook I have not been a fan of the way Overloud has handled user IRs in the past and REmatrix looks like it will not change my opinion.
I agree, there's definite room for improvement. I figure they just assumed people would use the factory IRs and add a few of their own, but that's not how SONAR users roll FWIW I included a tip in the first release eZine of how I handle adding new impulses. It's unwieldy, but it's the best I've come up with for now. Note that REmatrix Solo adds all your IRs into one big file named userIRs.rir, which is located at: C:\Users\Public\Documents\Overloud\REmatrix Solo\userIRs.rir To prevent the User menu from getting too unwieldy, you can rename this file (e.g., userIRs_original.rir) so any existing files don’t appear, then experiment with loading the new impulse responses. This will create a new userIRs.rir file. Note which ones are your favorites, then delete the userIRs.rir file, change the original .rir file back to userIRs.rir, and re-load only your favorites.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 14:42:42
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Thanks for the info scook. I find that hard to believe. But having been a beta tester for some IR programs in the past, I know that it can become a nightmare for programmers to anticipate "every" possible situation that the product will be used in, and "all" possible file paths. I shouldn't be so critical. But at least let us put all the IR files we want in a directory of their choosing. That wouldn't be half bad.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 15:02:42
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Anderton FWIW I included a tip in the first release eZine of how I handle adding new impulses. It's unwieldy, but it's the best I've come up with for now. Note that REmatrix Solo adds all your IRs into one big file named userIRs.rir, which is located at: C:\Users\Public\Documents\Overloud\REmatrix Solo\userIRs.rir To prevent the User menu from getting too unwieldy, you can rename this file (e.g., userIRs_original.rir) so any existing files don’t appear, then experiment with loading the new impulse responses. This will create a new userIRs.rir file. Note which ones are your favorites, then delete the userIRs.rir file, change the original .rir file back to userIRs.rir, and re-load only your favorites.
I have though about creating a little db management tool for REmatrix but I am not sure if 1) I would use it 2) If it would really make it easier to maintain Right now I am rolling around some ideas for a C3 support tool but not knowing the timeline for CW updates to the C3 put the chill on that idea. Still might mess with it this weekend if I get caught up on everything else.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 16:29:32
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scook
Doktor Avalanche Thanks Craig excellent feedback, let them know about boost11 and hardgrove if possible as well (#30) - thanks...
If you want bullet proof relocation for Multisample folders use a directory junction. It can be added to your current installation in addition to the registry edit even though it makes the registry edit redundant. For example, I have Rapture multisamples in N:\Cakewalk\Rapture\Multisamples so I added a junction by running cmd.exe as administrator an typing: mklink /j "C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Rapture\Multisamples" "N:\Cakewalk\Rapture\Multisamples" The installers have no choice but to put that data on N:.
Hot one scook! It sounds as though this might be a good temp fix for people with non-standard install locations... If I understand correctly, simply make directory junctions for all the necessary paths, then run the standard install? Thanks... Though I don't need it myself, it's good to know "just in case"... Keni
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 16:36:18
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Anderton Okay, I just got an email from Cakewalk. The problem is that's how my programs referenced the SFZs. I was keeping the SFZs separate because I was moving the Expansion Pack between two different computers (at home/on the road) and kept the multisamples, SFZs, and programs separate to make it easier to do transfers. The SFZs should have been in a folder that also had the multisamples. As you pointed out, the way it is now does "work," but it's messy. I told Cakewalk if they could provide me the locations for where things are supposed to be, I could create a new set of programs that reference the correct locations and that could be done as an update to tidy up the multisamples folders.
Thanks Craig... As I was uncertain the displayed available download was correct (it doesn't mention LPG), I will wait for a clean up fix before grabbing it... I am anxious to hear what you created, but my downloads are too difficult right now... Keni
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 16:45:12
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So...
I'm getting ready to install the update though the control bar issue is a bit scary... ;-)
Can anyone tell me in installing the update requires a C3 handshake authorization (or offline authorize)?
I have previously downloaded the file manually, then placing it in the C3 folder, installed from there and alliwed C3 to auto authorize..., but getting the studio DAW Internet connected is not dependable and I don't know if I can switch to an offline install after the initial install done by C3...
My copy is bought for the year, so it shouldn't need to check for payment?
Thanks...
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 23:39:32
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How come I don't see the Cambridge update in the Cakewalk command center? I paid for the year.. Everyone seems to have this update.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 23:46:40
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Are you saying the indicators are all green in C3 and the SONAR about screen does not show version 21.2.00 Build 21?
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 23:51:38
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Mosvalve How come I don't see the Cambridge update in the Cakewalk command center? I paid for the year.. Everyone seems to have this update.
Well, http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3197819 so you are not alone it seems. Just out of curiosity, when you expand the Sonar Platinum (or whatever) tree in the connected products in Command Center, then click on Sonar Platinum, on the right hand side underneath the graphic, is the 'update' button not active ? I know some people see that it says 'Braintree (whatever version) and just assume that it is saying that is the latest version, when bellow the 'Update" button is active and will take you to the new version
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/27 23:59:13
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Sonar Platinum is yellow and everything in it's tree below it is red. When I click on Sonar Platinum , on the right it shows Braintree 21.1.0.37. Below the pic of Sonar is, Install All, Install and Launch. Nothing says Cambridge or update of any kind. I just went to my products page and Cambridge update shows there but not in CC.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/28 00:13:17
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/28 00:17:24
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/28 00:19:48
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No, it is not necessary to reinstall. Did you log out of C3? That will reset the indicators.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/28 00:21:19
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scook No, it is not necessary to reinstall. Did you log out of C3? That will reset the indicators.
I've logged in and out of C3 about 15 times today. Nothing appears to be resetting. I have everything from the Braintree update.
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/28 00:29:15
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/28 00:33:21
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Re: Cambridge is here.
2015/03/28 10:07:46
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I just installed (via CCC)the LP Goldtop, Hardgroove, and Boz and they all show up, where I expect to find them. I haven't done the Platinum/core(?) part, yet, as I am just reading this thread. I have no need to hurry there....I suppose, since I am not doing anyone else's projects and can keep working on my X3e versions, that I could load it and live with it, till the fixes arrive. I didn't install Rapture, Celemony, nor Dim Pro with Platinum, since I already had them how/where I wanted them with my X3ePE. So, the fact that I'm using different serial numbers and library locations, makes me wonder if I won't need to concern myself with that (ever?), in terms of CCC. Any comments? Steve Cook? Craig, CW guys? Michael ***So, I am wondering whether the fix(es) will be in the install/update, if I wait or are they separate?
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