Rimshot
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Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
On the topic of TOS violations and such, I wish that my family and friends (young and old) could read forum threads without fear that the content may be "adult" in nature. Some content seems to go beyond "family friendly" at times.
Can we all look at this and try to remember that people of ALL ages may be reading our posts? I think this would help.
Here's some verbage from the TOS:
Questionable Content
These are public forums and we ask that you behave as you would if you were in a public place. These issues are left to the discretion of the moderator, but may include any material that is knowingly false or defamatory, misleading, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, that otherwise violates any law, or that encourages conduct constituting a criminal offense. Cakewalk is not responsible for messages posted on the Cakewalk Forums or the content therein. Unless stated otherwise, this includes messages posted by Cakewalk personnel, agents, representatives et al.
If Cakewalk does not want to moderate some of the more "adult" type language threads, then maybe they need to post a " For Adults Only" in the header. I just don't want to subject family and the younger ones to crude or sexually explicit material. I also don't want to block this site from them.
I am proud to be a contributing member of our forums and appreciate all the wonderful help you all give to me and others. Young folks that are trying to learn and grow in music and engineering may stumble across this specific forum and read things at times that may be offensive. So I hope the TOS is clear in this regard.
Thanks for your consideration of this request.
Rimshot
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 15:14:32
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 15:42:27
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I like family friendly too.
Thanks for the reminder.
best regards,
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 15:50:08
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just to clarify, can I say the 'a' word? (rhymes with farce) - it's only another word for bottom, butt, derrier, booty, fanny(in USA)
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 15:51:40
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At the risk of saying, "Me, too"...
I, also
(TOS upheld...)
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 16:28:26
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If you can hear a word on prime time TV then you should be able to type it in here. At least that's how I apply censorship when posting. Word used on HBO or subscription cable might not make the cut.
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 16:30:13
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I saw a contestant say ch!t on The Voice. Is that considered prime time?
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 16:54:43
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Am I allowed to say, I just threw up?
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 17:12:20
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To the Forum,
I tried to put this out there as politely as I could. It is not my TOS nor am I the one to ask if such and such words are OK to say.
I thought some of you would support this idea because of your support of the TOS in other situations. I appreciate the positive feedback and am sorry that others find this offensive.
Rimshot
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 17:20:06
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Rimshot
To the Forum,
I tried to put this out there as politely as I could. It is not my TOS nor am I the one to ask if such and such words are OK to say.
I thought some of you would support this idea because of your support of the TOS in other situations. I appreciate the positive feedback and am sorry that others find this offensive.
Rimshot
Not offensive. It shows a sense of superiority when you don't cite an example and elevate yourself to the rank of officiating the terms of service. Well all read them, we all agreed to be bound by them. If you want to behave like a prig either give examples or PM the person that's offended your sensibilities and ask for a take down. There's a report abuse button FYI or is it you don't think the people that put up the actual TOS your refer to respond to complaints? I've found they do when it comes to obscenity or profanity. Try it sometime before mounting your high horse. Rather you chose to act as moral guide on many people here who are quite capable of monitoring their own conduct. It's like somebody will say on a political or religious debate go and find a forum that allows for that. If you want puritanical sign up for an Amish site or something. I tend to avoid profanity simply because I've understood the terms and generally abide by them as do most here the majority of the time. Yet you still take issue. Because of profanity or because not everyone agrees to being nannied by some self-appointed moral guide? You'll also note that I'm acceding to your wishes. So what else would you like to see if that's not enough for you? I'm quite tolerant too even if the smell of self-righteousness makes me gag from time to time I'm always aware it takes all sorts. Carry on with your clean up crusade my friend, don't mind me. Like you I'm just letting my thoughts be known.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/05/03 17:39:01
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 17:40:30
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Rimshot
To the Forum,
Rimshot
LOL. who else is watching?
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 17:48:05
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Jonbouy, I appreciate your reply. Please do not think I consider myself pure or anything like that. I am not above any one. I'm just a family guy, husband, and father. I am also not referring to profanity alone. I am referring to any dialog that might be offensive to children or young adults who may simply be reading through the threads. I am no moral guide at all and did not try to come across that way. I apologize to you and anyone else that feels that way. I was asking to keep the topics friendly for all to read and enjoy. I did not want to embarass or upset anyone. I am truly sorry if that is the way it sounded. Thanks for your input. Rimshot
post edited by Rimshot - 2012/05/03 17:55:13
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 18:11:43
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 18:24:24
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It's not offensive rimshot. But you're just asking for every borderline post everyone can think of. And beleive me they do think of ways to violate the TOS. It's a long held tradition and an art. :)
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 18:31:55
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FWIW, I agree with Rimshot. I think lately the content of posts have degraded.
That's just my opinion regarding what I'm reading and is not meant to be a "policing" statement. I do not plan to show any examples, tho, so anyone who feels my comment is inappropriate without examples, feel free to believe as you wish.
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 18:42:10
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bapu
I saw a contestant say ch!t on The Voice. Is that considered prime time?
Absolutely. If you think little kids don't hear that sort of talk, give your head a shake. In my life I try to set an example for my child and I still go on my best behaviour around my 90 year old mom. I have control in that limited circle and that's it. Most adults know right from wrong and how to act in public. I consider posting on the forums to be a public activity and act accordingly.
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 18:55:32
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I'm not the one putting up **** and all my swear words end up *****.
I am trying to raise the tone of debate and try and get people to ask different questions of themselves and of those around us.
The tos thread came about because there seemed to be nowhere to put up a slighty political peice of avant garde art.
For me in OZ there is nothing political in that Obama video because he is a yank and your politics are funny at best and seriously out of control at worse.
Don't worry I follow I politics across the world and understand the electoral college system and the primaries.
What is really funny is America is just a big fat Rome waiting to implode like the original. What has stopped it is your two terms in office policy, this too is based on the original Roman Republic until someone realized: Caesar you can't run an empire like that.
Neb
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 19:07:28
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I conducted myself here last night the same way I would have in public, minus the comment, "Now get the **** away from me before I knock your ****ing lights out you ****ing idiot."
Please, stop with the 'children/family' card. The internet is not a child friendly place.
I do agree that I stepped over the line with the *'s. I'll go back and edit the posts ... anyone who quoted me, please do the same if you actually feel it's wrong.
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 19:50:23
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hey Rimshot.
you shouldn`t have to apologise for stating your opinion-you are entitled to that and i appreciate your stance but to suggest that "family,friends, children or young adults who may simply be reading through the threads" would stumble across a sub forum on a specific software site such as this is overestimating the interest and impact of this forum.
i say this because my wife,bless her heart,was concerned about my late night web sessions and was interested in what "porn"i was watching.
she was relieved to find it was the coffee house et al and her observation was "a bunch of predominately middle-aged men chewing the fat and peeing in the corners"
i am far more concerned that anyone of any age can do a google search for "porn" and "safeguards" such as AVG PRO even advises which porn is safe to view, regardless of your age!!!!
once again,i appreciate your stance but there are lobby groups,legislators and the Far Right that would certainly appreciate your input.
cheers mate
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 20:14:53
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Actually there was one wierdo, Kcine or something like that, who put up an innocuous video called "it's time to get laid" there was nothing in the video it was just a sweet girl and her uke.
Cake ripped it down right away.
There is no need for an adults only section, what poppycock.
There needs to be an understanding of sensable dialouge between consenting adults and posting arse is not one one of them.
I don't agree with Rimshot on this one but I will come into bat for him Webbs Hill Studio. Rim Shot is one of the true gentlemen, so your snide comments are not necessary. Come after me by all means but leave the gentlmen alone.
Also this forum has a huge reputation, why do you think non Sonar user's (Bub and The Pontiff) frequent, we have one of the best repositories of information on the net when it comes to audio, production and engineering.
Bub don't be silly this is what all this **** is about, censoring yourself is just silly.
I actually have never heard anything in any of your post that was offensive!!
Neb
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 20:34:33
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BenMMusTech
Actually there was one wierdo, Kcine or something like that, who put up an innocuous video called "it's time to get laid" there was nothing in the video it was just a sweet girl and her uke.
Cake ripped it down right away.
There is no need for an adults only section, what poppycock.
There needs to be an understanding of sensable dialouge between consenting adults and posting arse is not one one of them.
I don't agree with Rimshot on this one but I will come into bat for him Webbs Hill Studio. Rim Shot is one of the true gentlemen, so your snide comments are not necessary. Come after me by all means but leave the gentlmen alone.
Also this forum has a huge reputation, why do you think non Sonar user's (Bub and The Pontiff) frequent, we have one of the best repositories of information on the net when it comes to audio, production and engineering.
Bub don't be silly this is what all this **** is about, censoring yourself is just silly.
I actually have never heard anything in any of your post that was offensive!!
Neb
Ben I agree with you that Rimshot is a good and genuine chap and if you scroll up the thread you will see that I apologized and felt partly responsible as a couple of threads I started had mild English swear words in the titles/ I immediately edited the thread titles because I respect him. However, If I want to post arse, I will. Just as I respect your right to debate art and artists. Just as I respect Mike McCue's right to talk about his studio build. Just as I respect Beagle's right to talk about becan. You should respect the right for people to talk about inane stuff about arses and Arsene Wenger. If you don't want to comment on that thread, move on. Start a new thread that interests you but don't diss me for saying arse please. I like it. Thanks.
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 20:42:59
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BenMMusTech
Actually there was one wierdo, Kcine or something like that, who put up an innocuous video called "it's time to get laid" there was nothing in the video it was just a sweet girl and her uke.
Cake ripped it down right away.
There is no need for an adults only section, what poppycock.
There needs to be an understanding of sensable dialouge between consenting adults and posting arse is not one one of them.
I don't agree with Rimshot on this one but I will come into bat for him Webbs Hill Studio. Rim Shot is one of the true gentlemen, so your snide comments are not necessary. Come after me by all means but leave the gentlmen alone.
Also this forum has a huge reputation, why do you think non Sonar user's (Bub and The Pontiff) frequent, we have one of the best repositories of information on the net when it comes to audio, production and engineering.
Bub don't be silly this is what all this **** is about, censoring yourself is just silly.
I actually have never heard anything in any of your post that was offensive!!
Neb
Ben
I agree with you that Rimshot is a good and genuine chap and if you scroll up the thread you will see that I apologized and felt partly responsible as a couple of threads I started had mild English swear words in the titles/ I immediately edited the thread titles because I respect him.
However, If I want to post arse, I will.
Just as I respect your right to debate art and artists. Just as I respect Mike McCue's right to talk about his studio build. Just as I respect Beagle's right to talk about becan. You should respect the right for people to talk about inane stuff about arses and Arsene Wenger.
If you don't want to comment on that thread, move on. Start a new thread that interests you but don't diss me for saying arse please.
I like it.
Thanks.
Sorry Daryl, it's so slippery this TOS and what is right and wrong you got caught in the crossfire when I went into bat for RimShot. Personally I have no problem with ass, ah see if we change the meaning of the word or use it as a double entendre, as you being british should know we can get away with it. Sorry again and I agree with you Daryl, I'm off to find Mrs Slocombe's pussy!!  Neb
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 20:43:40
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Rim Shot is one of the true gentlemen, so your snide comments are not necessary. you`re kidding-which part of snide were you referring to: Trickyps:Rimshot-i was trying to be supportive-guess it didn`t come over that way
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 20:49:01
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BenMMusTech
I'm not the one putting up **** and all my swear words end up *****.
I am trying to raise the tone of debate and try and get people to ask different questions of themselves and of those around us.
The tos thread came about because there seemed to be nowhere to put up a slighty political peice of avant garde art.
For me in OZ there is nothing political in that Obama video because he is a yank and your politics are funny at best and seriously out of control at worse.
Don't worry I follow I politics across the world and understand the electoral college system and the primaries.
What is really funny is America is just a big fat Rome waiting to implode like the original. What has stopped it is your two terms in office policy, this too is based on the original Roman Republic until someone realized: Caesar you can't run an empire like that.
Neb
Cheers HA - I'VE JUST NOTICED YOUR SIGNATURE - ABOUT OPINIONS
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 20:52:21
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oops-stuffed my post up again-should have read-
webbs hill studio
Rim Shot is one of the true gentlemen, so your snide comments are not necessary.
you`re kidding-which part of snide were you referring to Tricky; deceptive; false; spurious; contemptible.
my reply was supportive-i supported his entitlement to his opinion and i suggested there were more effective avenues to voice his opinion. try venting your angst on the poster who called him a "prig"look that up in your Funk and Wagnall and don`t get me riled up-i`m one hours flight away and will come down and kick your sorry arse you`re not the only "Warrior" around here. ps:Rimshot-my reply was meant to be supportive-sorry it didn`t read that way cheers
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 21:02:47
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TBH there's content on here that makes me wince at times and I'm sure that's true the other way round. Rarely though I find the behaviour here rank enough to comment on, it's normally just puerile potty humour. It's a weird area where everyone has different thresholds of acceptable or even agreeable. The TOS works for me with the prime-time guideline and I do pretty much understand and adhere to that. I'm also fortunate enough to be able to say what I think, if I think somebody has crossed the line on 'decency' grounds I'll call it out just as much as I will if I think somebody is moralizing, patronising or any other thing that may be driving me nuts on a particular day. Did anyone notice that? I find it easier to bring up an issue I may have with someone over something they've said rather than raising a posse with a campaign speech. Whatever it is. To me the upright family guy approach is a cheap one and it stinks many of us here have children and families and do a good job of bringing our kids up to cite that as a reason infers a 'better' standard of care than the rest of us. I think it's called leading with the chin. See, there's that funny thing about morality again because I find that stuff far more 'offensive' than poo poo words. @Beagle: I think you did yourself down there, in fact you are definitely one of the ones that will flag up something that's caused you offence directly, without resorting to a need to go on the campaign trail.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2012/05/03 21:13:52
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 21:08:50
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webbs hill studio
oops-stuffed my post up again-should have read-
webbs hill studio
Rim Shot is one of the true gentlemen, so your snide comments are not necessary.
you`re kidding-which part of snide were you referring to Tricky; deceptive; false; spurious; contemptible.
my reply was supportive-i supported his entitlement to his opinion and i suggested there were more effective avenues to voice his opinion. try venting your angst on the poster who called him a "prig"look that up in your Funk and Wagnall and don`t get me riled up-i`m one hours flight away and will come down and kick your sorry arse you`re not the only "Warrior" around here. ps:Rimshot-my reply was meant to be supportive-sorry it didn`t read that way cheers
Here is what is snide: am far more concerned that anyone of any age can do a google search for "porn" and "safeguards" such as AVG PRO even advises which porn is safe to view, regardless of your age!!!! once again,i appreciate your stance but there are lobby groups,legislators and the Far Right that would certainly appreciate your input. cheers mate Notice how I undelined Far Right we all know what the far right represents, so your whole paragraph is decpetive, on the one hand you are saying I support you but on the other you are saying his opinion belong on the far right. Snide!!! Neb
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BenMMusTech
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 21:11:09
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daryl1968
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I'm not the one putting up **** and all my swear words end up *****.
I am trying to raise the tone of debate and try and get people to ask different questions of themselves and of those around us.
The tos thread came about because there seemed to be nowhere to put up a slighty political peice of avant garde art.
For me in OZ there is nothing political in that Obama video because he is a yank and your politics are funny at best and seriously out of control at worse.
Don't worry I follow I politics across the world and understand the electoral college system and the primaries.
What is really funny is America is just a big fat Rome waiting to implode like the original. What has stopped it is your two terms in office policy, this too is based on the original Roman Republic until someone realized: Caesar you can't run an empire like that.
Neb
Cheers
HA - I'VE JUST NOTICED YOUR SIGNATURE - ABOUT OPINIONS
I stole it from Dirty Harry, the exercise yours is my contribution!!  Neb
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 21:16:41
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I would never let my kids roam around the internet unsupervised. I'm kind of shocked that a parent would let their kids read or participate in a forum not designated as being child friendly. In my opinion it's very irresponsible of the parent.
There are sites out there that are clearly designated 'family friendly', this is not one of them.
So please, take your screaming brat out of the Coffee House so I can enjoy my coffee and danish.
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Re:Can we keep this forum "Family Friendly" ?
2012/05/03 21:17:55
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so I can enjoy my coffee and danish. Danish what (or whom)?... 
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