gt2004


I Currently have the KRK Rokit PR5 and i want to get something better. Budget is $500 and i have been looking at this but not sure if it any good Behringer Truth B3031. I don't know much about monitors so any help would be nice

Thanks

Crush

yorolpal


Cultural bias.  The great unwashed masses, as it were, have grown accustomed to hearing those differing genres utilizing different eq curves and differing amounts of compression.  Really, it's our (those in the professional audio community) own fault for fostering these parochial anomalies for lo these many years.  It's akin...but not the same...as the "loudness wars".  I could go into more detail if I wasn't so tired...and blase'.

I thought what really happened is that RADIO and MTV was actually heavily compressing the signals and people started to question why the music was 'better on the FM dial' than on a cassette or record.

Remember the myths of the 'vocal machine' that could do magic on your voice and make it better?

I think in an order to get things 'more like the radio' (louder and consistent), the sound engineers tried to make their source material actually SOUND like FM radio.

I admit, I am guilty of this :).. I listen to the BBC UKG shows and am like.. wow I want my stuff to sound like that!

Bub

For example; you still think music comes in *types*.

Music is music, sound is sound. It's all there for one to realize or ignore.

Then why does every car stereo or home stereo I've ever owned have EQ presets that say, "Country", "Rock", "Jazz", "Pop", "Blues", "Techno", "Classical" etc ... ? I'm asking seriously, I'm not taking sides or busting chops on this.

mike_mccue

trimph1

Crush

yorolpal


Cultural bias.  The great unwashed masses, as it were, have grown accustomed to hearing those differing genres utilizing different eq curves and differing amounts of compression.  Really, it's our (those in the professional audio community) own fault for fostering these parochial anomalies for lo these many years.  It's akin...but not the same...as the "loudness wars".  I could go into more detail if I wasn't so tired...and blase'.

I thought what really happened is that RADIO and MTV was actually heavily compressing the signals and people started to question why the music was 'better on the FM dial' than on a cassette or record.

Remember the myths of the 'vocal machine' that could do magic on your voice and make it better?

I think in an order to get things 'more like the radio' (louder and consistent), the sound engineers tried to make their source material actually SOUND like FM radio.

I admit, I am guilty of this :).. I listen to the BBC UKG shows and am like.. wow I want my stuff to sound like that!

That was what I was eluding to in my small screed in a way. Marketing does wonders in that sense. I'm thinking, in this sense, of the country music stations, the classic rock music stations, the current rock stations...if it is all music then fine, let it be, but no we are determined to pigeon hole whatever crosses our ken....


And, if all you hear is compressed to the point of loudness uber alles then everyone gets the notion that that is the way to go...which makes me wonder if anyone actually listens to the  music anymore....but this is entirely OT at this point...

The only reason music is stereotyped and pigeon holed on commercial stations is so that the advertisers know where to advertise horse feed and where to advertise hair gel.

The narrow genre format is specifically enforced to make business with advertisers.

The public access stations and college radio stations don't run on advertising and so they have widely diverse formatting throughout the day or even hour.

trimph1


@ John: I had Klipsch corner speakers for a long time..I wish I did not sell those... 

mike_mccue


Wow Freddie... those are nice.

I could listen to Country AND Western on those Adams.

:-)

John

trimph1


@ John: I had Klipsch corner speakers for a long time..I wish I did not sell those... 

My question is why on earth did you sell them? I hope you are not talking about the folded corner horns.  Those are my absolute favorites. Nothing comes close.  

trimph1

John

trimph1


@ John: I had Klipsch corner speakers for a long time..I wish I did not sell those... 

My question is why on earth did you sell them? I hope you are not talking about the folded corner horns.  Those are my absolute favorites. Nothing comes close.  

Those were the exact ones!! AAARRGH!!!

Crush


 

Kroneborge I listened to many of your tracks up in the kitchen on the cheap kitchen bookshelf system. Your mixes are actually good. Not my style where I go nuts on compression, but good. They are still a bit off though. Mainly your treble is too high khz on some of them. You need to bring them down to scratch range. I can hear them nine and clear down here on the studio monitors, but not on the cheap speakers so they seem to lack treble or hotness. Also some of the mids are pushed a bit too forward on the cheap speakers.

I have a $100 Sony Bookshelf similar to this that I use to test with.

tarsier


I tried to dig out that information from a lot of manufacturer's websites, and the only ones who had that info easily available are JBL and Genelec. What are the other ones hiding? Can anyone point me to other manufacturers that publish their speaker specs in that much detail?

  How many people here have had their hearing checked lately?

bz2838


i recommend Alesis Monitor One

UnderTow

tarsier


I tried to dig out that information from a lot of manufacturer's websites, and the only ones who had that info easily available are JBL and Genelec. What are the other ones hiding? Can anyone point me to other manufacturers that publish their speaker specs in that much detail?

These are the specs for my monitors: http://psiaudio.com/downloads/active_studio_monitors/docs/PSI_A25_M_techdata.pdf

They also provide a specific frequency plot for the actual pair of speakers which tells you that they are properly tested after being manufactured. Not some idealised plot for a brochure:

There are a few other manufacturers that gives detailed specs and measurements:

http://www.neumann-kh-line.com/neumann-kh/home_en.nsf/root/prof-monitoring_studio-monitors_nearfield-monitors_O300D#

http://www.me-geithain.de/studio/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=32&lang=en

I couldn't find much else but I'm sure the higher end manufacturers would provide them on request.

  How many people here have had their hearing checked lately?

*Wave*

UnderTow