Classic Grass Colab w/Scotty **Final remix2 - 6/29**

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Classic Grass Colab w/Scotty **Final remix2 - 6/29**

Always liked this tune :-) It's at the top; MFer!

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**6/20, numerous changes from 1st till now. This includes a dobro at the end to help fill it out as the piano and mando stop there. I'm done with it for now and will be moving on. It was a lot of fun though! And again special thanks to Scotty.



**6/22, I just want to say that the people who are really good at this mixing and mastering stuff? My hat it off to you... "Really" And you know who you are. It is the single hardest thing for me. Many things come easily to me? Some I have to work at, but the damn mixing... I mean I do it for days/weeks... I have what will be the final mix up now. I wanted to bring the ass end up a bit more, I kept mixing it in and then out again? It's sitting where I want it now :-) And the vox :-) And that sweet fiddle :-) So much goes in to this... 

**6/29, I still wasn't happy with some of the compression and EQ so I made multiple changes... to me it sounds better? Either way I'm done with it this time for sure :-) I sang one for Janet she's finishing up that's going to be pretty cool. And I have my son next week so won't be doing much in the studio, but after that I'll get back in there and work on one of my oldies that hasn't been recorded yet.

People who don't do this? Have "no clue..." I have so many compressors and limiters, EQs, panners, wideners, narrowers, exciters all working together... I work in a technical field on the Internet? And I tell the Engineers I work with, what I do on the DAW is "every bit as involved and every bit as deep as what we do in the network, if not more so..."  The secrets behind getting your mix, 1. Loud, 2. Punchy, 3. Clear, 4. Separated, featuring different aspects, like the vocals, a lead instrument like Scotty's fiddle, keeping the punch in the ass end, not over driving anything? Not distorting, it is an art that requires every bit as much talent as anything we do musically IMO...  So many deep rabbit holes. The musician rabbit hole... The production rabbit hole, the engineering rabbit hole. Each deep and wide? Each presenting its own challenges... 

Well I like to think I'm getting better at it :-) I am surrounded by so many talented people who inspire me. I am very very impressed by so many here, if I can impress you, I've accomplished what I've set out to do :-) And believe me when I say, "I work HARD at it..." Really hard, at my craft(s) it's not just a hobby, it is my passion, and my obsession...

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    Guitarhacker
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    Re:MFer 2011/06/10 20:27:37 (permalink)
    nice tune.... this takes me back to Roanoke Virginia.... up on the blue ridge parkway back in the 80's with my VW bug and an 8-track player and this cassette.

    Good music.... good cover.

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/10 21:37:35 (permalink)
    This is great, Robby.  Train whistles, cool piano, great drums, a pretty darn good fiddler, etc., etc.  Still can't get over your voice, although I've heard it once or twice before.  :) 


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    Re:MFer 2011/06/10 22:29:57 (permalink)
    Wonderful! Everything about it is top notch. Shades of Rocket Top! Great Playing and vocals (as expected) ... Scotty? A fun tune and so well put together.
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    Re:MFer 2011/06/10 23:13:06 (permalink)
    May the circle be unbroken. Robby as hillbilly (and I mean that in the most flattering sense), and a very credible one at that. The grass is bluer...........? A ton of fun

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/11 10:40:02 (permalink)
    2nd country tune in a row this afternoon..not my favourite genre, but you do it well Robby. Good vibes are pouring out o' this one Nice job on the walking bass line - perfect! I'm guessing that banjo is done on the keys, 'cos you've mentioned it before. Neat work, it takes a lot to get that feel right.


     
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    Re:MFer 2011/06/11 10:46:18 (permalink)
    Well done Robby. I imagine that is Scotty on the fiddle.
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    Re:MFer 2011/06/11 11:31:07 (permalink)
    Well this was completely unexpected! Great performances. Excellent actually.

    The drums seem like they're in the back of the room - I'd bring them up closer.
     
    Oh, & loved the bass solo!
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    Re:MFer 2011/06/11 13:12:52 (permalink)
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    nice tune.... this takes me back to Roanoke Virginia.... up on the blue ridge parkway back in the 80's with my VW bug and an 8-track player and this cassette.

    Good music.... good cover.

    Thanks Hacker, it was a lot of fun to do. And here he is ladies and gentlemen, 80s Herb, complete with a cold one and long hair! :-)





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    Re:MFer 2011/06/11 13:33:42 (permalink)
    Great arrangement Robby... killer fiddle... Scotty?
    Harmony is so fine... I'd like to hear more snare... I think it might make the midi banjo more believable... very well done...
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    Re:MFer 2011/06/11 15:08:36 (permalink)
    Great stuff.... For a brief moment I was back in the states! Guess it would have to be Scotty on fiddle. Great Banjo work, though. I seem to recall you having a banjo on something else you posted. Killer slide part :)

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/11 15:29:52 (permalink)
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    Great stuff.... For a brief moment I was back in the states! Guess it would have to be Scotty on fiddle. Great Banjo work, though. I seem to recall you having a banjo on something else you posted. Killer slide part :)

    :-) I worked on that banjo part "for two weeks..." It's my roland Juno. I could have kept working on it, but at some point, I had to push that bird out of the nest :-) 


    That is the man, the inimitable Scott Campbell on Fiddle (of course). The slide is my Chandler steel guitar, playing the Warwick fretless bass, 6 string and mandolin as well, the keys are true pianos and NIs B4 at the end. 

    And I got some new Fab-Filter plug-ins I was working with, I really like them.

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/12 00:09:17 (permalink)
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    This is great, Robby.  Train whistles, cool piano, great drums, a pretty darn good fiddler, etc., etc.  Still can't get over your voice, although I've heard it once or twice before.  :) 

    Janet, you know I always work on impressing YOU with my piano :-) If I succeeded even in a small way? I consider it a huge success :-) The original version of course did not have piano, so in my version, it's purely my interpretation of what should have been there? But I really enjoyed the piano. I'm getting better at it... the piano took me 2 days or so I think? I'm glad you liked everything. 


    Thank you for listening, and for commenting.

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/12 16:38:14 (permalink)
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    Wonderful! Everything about it is top notch. Shades of Rocket Top! Great Playing and vocals (as expected) ... Scotty? A fun tune and so well put together.

    Thanks Manny, I tried to go with the Eagles version as a template, but I added the piano, mandolin, and Scotty did the fiddle, none of those components are in the original. And the term "original" I use loosely, because it's actually an old blue grass song written by Paul Craft, and done by many artists.

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/12 18:06:22 (permalink)
    no idea, but it sounds pretty damn professional to me, some great picking and a-fiddling, could be a little 'bigger' soundwise, but very very well balanced.

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/12 21:16:23 (permalink)
    I'm sure I've heard this song before but it still took me 1 minute and 25 seconds to figure out that "MFer" stands for "Midnight Flyer" and not...well, you know

    Anyway, the mix sounds great. Love it when you hit those harmonies...awesome.

    Great fiddle by Scotty and great playing on all the other instruments by you. That Chandler sounds great...oh yea, nice piano lick in there, too!

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/13 00:38:40 (permalink)
    Edited, two times? I know.. I know.
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    Re:MFer 2011/06/13 01:01:29 (permalink)
    Edited.
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    Re:MFer 2011/06/13 03:14:36 (permalink)
    Hey, Robby,

    Very cool spin on this classic bluegrass cover, buddy.

    Those vocal harmonies are really sweet!  Excellent job on all of the instrumental performances, I love the banjo and slide, and Scotty's fiddle sounds dynamite.

    The mix sounds really good, especially for how much is going on throughout the song.  My only very minor suggestion would be to maybe bring your killer good vocals up just a notch, to float them over the dense mix a little bit more.  That's just my own personal preference.  When you've got the perfect voice for this song like you do, why not feature it just a little bit more?

    Really nice work, Robby!
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    Re:MFer 2011/06/13 06:26:17 (permalink)
    This was fun to play on! Thanks to Robby and all of you who commented. Long live the grass!

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/13 08:42:29 (permalink)
    Hi Robby, that's a fun tune, nice one.

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/13 09:12:16 (permalink)
    Great work guys. harmonies are spot on. Great fiddle Scotty. And, Robby, I like the banjo:)
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    Re:MFer 2011/06/13 09:33:16 (permalink)
    This was a treat.  Killer arrangement and bass playin' was fabulous.  Scotty's fiddles had my speakers smokin'.
    Nice harmonies and the guitar lines were very classy.

    Beautiful.

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/13 19:10:17 (permalink)
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    This was a treat.  Killer arrangement and bass playin' was fabulous.  Scotty's fiddles had my speakers smokin'.
    Nice harmonies and the guitar lines were very classy.

    Beautiful.

    Ha! Someone noticed my mad skills on that fretless bass! I really like the way it came out :-) I worked hard to get the part I wanted throughout, and also the execution, tone, etc... Put a lot of energy in to that bass track :-) That's my Warwick fretless thumb bass, and it's like sex with your favorite porn star without he STDs... Just really very nice.





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    Re:MFer 2011/06/13 19:38:40 (permalink)


    Nice bass, Robby! Looks similar to my 5-string Ibanez pictured above.


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    Re:MFer 2011/06/13 19:43:42 (permalink)
    Basses don't have 5 strings Scotty... That's just wrong! They have 4 strings.  If they did have 5 strings? That would be a nice one, very pretty. But snap out of it man! 5 strings? Heresy! What are those lines on the neck though? Don't they get in the way of those semi-tones? :-)
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    Ha!
    I have a Fender Jazz fretless bass and it still has lines on the neck.


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    Re:MFer 2011/06/13 21:41:26 (permalink)
    Very well done.

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/14 05:37:28 (permalink)
    Wow this one got me by surprise , as I didn't know what to expect 
    two things that make this tune over the top real nice
    Robbys voice & Scottys fiddle 
    every thing else was good too

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    Re:MFer 2011/06/14 16:46:49 (permalink)
    I enjoyed the song - only crits - I would have added more low end - more emphasis on the bass and kick in the mix.  Great job on vox.

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