all I know is my download is over so I am not naked anymore 

Mooch4056


all I know is my download is over so I am not naked anymore 

Ok, pix posting is okay now.


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On second thought....... NVM.

Rain

Danny Danzi

Another thing I felt was a bit odd was this statement I keep seeing mentioning "the object is to make music" which sort of seems like an attempt to make you forget about the lack of color changes. 

In my years of customer service, it was a basic principle to try and always use positive sentences, even when the answer was really no. Like "I can certainly see why it's important to you and that's why I'd like to bring this or that alternative to your attention."

Most people have a bad feeling about customer service these days, generally ;)

But I must admit I felt uneasy with that "make music and forget about ..." statement as well.

Hmmm....   

For some people being outdoors in bright sunshine is not an issue.  So in that case, why bother with having sunglasses for anyone?  Sure, for some people the sunglasses might be a part of their dress sense, but if some people don't need them then it follows that nobody needs them?  And that if they do need sunglasses it's purely because they're more interested in being cool?  Well, for some people it's important because they perceive the sun to be too bright for viewing in a "normal" manner.  

Similarly, it's important to me to set certain colors because I find it helps me see things more "normally".  I don't care about a cool or pretty screen.  I do care about one that suits my vision.  I never used to think too much about themes and so on, until I tried out a few of those that were first offered in the earlier versions and I was surprised at how much some themes really helped me.

I think it's fine if some don't care about colors and themes.  But some of us do....

VariousArtist


Hmmm....   

For some people being outdoors in bright sunshine is not an issue.  So in that case, why bother with having sunglasses for anyone?

Yeah, I know what you mean. What I mean though is, it's just the pragmatism of any development project. Minority use features are always going to get less of a focus. That kind of sucks if one of those features is important to you, I know, but it is what it is.

fribble


Hi folks,
I've just seen the new console view for the first time and I'm very disappointed.

"Narrow strips" are completely unusable now. There is no EQ plot anymore, plug-in names are truncated to just one or two letters. Where are the phase buttons or stereo interleave buttons? What happened to automation read/write enable? Not to mention input and output devices (shown at the bottom). You can see only ONE letter of the track names - A, L, K ?!?! What are these?

This upgrade was supposed to improve workflow - now I have to guess which channels/plug-ins I'm working on...

I'm usually working on projects with a high track count and I need to see as many tracks as possible - wide strips are not an option for me. I hope this is getting fixed in an update.

One more note: there seems to be a display bug, as some dB values are overlapping - you can see it near the bottom of channels 14 and 20.



Just for comparison: here are the same tracks as shown in Sonar 8.5. It takes even less space on the screen and there's a lot more information readable. See what I mean?

You may have missed the menu at the top of console view where you can still show what ever you want (modules) eq, phase, interleave, MSR, sends etc.   It would have migrated your settings from your last project so where you must not have been using them.

A feature that I really like that compensates somewhat for the small track name space is that if you click on a track in console view it then pops up automatically in track view with the full prochannel etc available to you.   When you click on a track in track view that track is higlighted in console view so still easy to find. 

I also read somewhere in the info that if you used the inline Sonitus eq you can migrate those settings over to the new EQ but haven't tried that yet.

So it looks like somethings may have created a problem for some(where using narrow strips) but lots of improvements in other areas that in my mind more than compensate.

I also read somewhere in the info that if you used the inline Sonitus eq you can migrate those settings over to the new EQ but haven't tried that yet.

 
Does anyone know how to do that yet?  I'd like to find out.
 

Scott Lee


Yes Billy.

What you do is this.. If your project or normal.tpl has a Sonitus active or some plots, to get the new NEW working you HOLD CTRL and click on the power button of the EQ in the pro channel. This activatives it.

I'll try that shortly, thanks Scott.   I hope you're saying it will 'convert' your inline EQ settings into the new EQ module.
 

creynolds

I am so pleased with X1 in so many other aspects, it makes this serious retrograde so difficult to appreciate. For me it renders the upgrade almost unuseable. I simply can't imagine how I could mix on it. Which is a real shame.

+1

First - I am a simple user,  usually 20 tracks or less, and I am more of a writer/performer than an engineer. I can see that not having the plot on the thin stips could be a problem for many, however - when I started working on a remix of a project, the pluses in workflow in my opinion well overshadowed not getting the software just because some features went missing.  

I dialled in a few tracks that were problematic with the new pro channel strip - fumbling at first, but I got the hang of it pretty quickly.  I then created a quick project - one take, guitar, bass, synth, voice and session drummer 3 - thats where the new tool set just shined.  

The new work surface design being able to see all of my midi drum patterns, synths and all of the effects, all at once really helps, and to place them where I want them - well thats pretty darn sweet in the creation process - and for me, creating music is what differentiates Sonar from Pro Tools or other DAW in my humble opinion. What I would say - for me, the plusses so far, outweigh the minuses listed at the start of this thread. They are well intended certainly - but I am really liking the entire package..

Best Regards all..

L 

Good to know that you two guys are having a blast and don't use the feature set that we others are mourning so hard. Whilst I am elated that you guys are so happy with your working practices and gear, I fail to see how the comments you are making really help us other commited Sonar users, who are really fouled up by this loss of vital and I mean vital functionality.

This thread is not doing Sonar X1 down. Quite the contrary. We are trying to restore features that seem to have been skipped over as maybe trivial. If you don't run high track counts or use lots of groups this thread is not going to push your buttons. If you do, you've got to get behind these pleas to fix it and I mean pronto.

If you don't run high track counts

FWIW - the last song for The CHB had 50+ tracks. That may not be high for you but for me that was HUGH.

bapu

If you don't run high track counts

FWIW - the last song for The CHB had 50+ tracks. That may not be high for you but for me that was HUGH.

Hugh Who?
 

 
Sorry - I couldn't resist Bapu :)
 
 

creynolds


Good to know that you two guys are having a blast and don't use the feature set that we others are mourning so hard. Whilst I am elated that you guys are so happy with your working practices and gear, I fail to see how the comments you are making really help us other commited Sonar users, who are really fouled up by this loss of vital and I mean vital functionality.

You have to look at the big picture ... maybe they don't want the console view to be any good so you buy some hardware?

Ehh? Ahhh? See how that works?

Ok, I'll accept that my post was not relevant. 
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