Wow!...That really looks great! I think the bakers should look into sending you a plane ticket out to Boston as a consultant.

-e.B

n0rd

cake2010

The layout is now amateurish and even average user here can come up with better ideas.

Huh? Did you just call me average? :p lol

Hey great work!!
Hmm... it could be that you are actually slightly above the average user.
 
  

Elegant and functional. Well Done.

Great, just what I was thinking too.

Genius
+1000000
If they impliment this I will be one happy bunny and you should get a credit. Thanks nOrd

As a slight return. I still don't like the fader caps in the new or old console. I think they were called 'Buddys' faders that are soooo much nicer and a stronger colour too. The colours on this version are very pastel. I want to be able to see the groups as distinctly different. Anyone sat in front of this new colour scheme for long yet? It makes my head ache. Too light for me. I end up squinting.

From What I've seen......looks like they HAVE to adopt something different....maybe not this, but damn!, something to improve this.

(don't mean to gripe at OP(with respect of course), but you do realize that by posting your design, they most definitely won't adopt it)  Think about it.....new release, many expectations, apparently beta tested by the regulars, and by adopting your fix that would admit failure and overlooking the obvious for bakers and testers alike...

Just saying......(sorry to ruin your sure win bet Billy..haha)

Cheers!

n0rd, I think your post needs to be front and center in this thread with a dedicated link of some kind. It's really good work.

Here it is again for those who might miss the link above

http://forum.cakewalk.com...58&mpage=1#2153458

It's shame that it most likely will not be implemented by the Bakers when it in fact it should probably be adapted in its entirety.

The reason I suggest it will not be implemented is because of my previous experience with other software and user interfaces. I have seen numerous times where we, the users, come up with simply brilliant design ideas but the wheels of software development teams seem to always turn in another direction. Seems so backwards.

Here's a group of 100's of users that can be tapped for so many different purposes but sometimes the end product becomes something that no user would have designed.

I understand the difficulty and so appreciate the efforts that the Bakers have put into this product but here's an opportunity to be truly cutting edge by taking a great idea from a user and running with it.

Perhaps there are a couple of software engineers who can enlighten us on why a great idea like this (or others in your experience) may not or can not be implemented.

I wonder what the narrow console will look like in the future? Hopefully your idea, n0rd, gets some strong consideration.

n0rd


Is it perfect? - No
I'm just dreaming out aloud - nothing more, nothing less.

Very Nice!!

+1 very nice!

Maybe in Sonar X1,5 (please,please,please,?)

i only use the narrow strip ... the is a total F!@# up change

are they assuming we all want to go buy yet another screen for they their clunky interface

SongCraft

rbowser


Jose and Jon - I didn't mean to cause confusion.  I've been staying with the Studio versions of Sonar for some time now.  So I don't have the Pro Channel, and that's what's causing the difference in my narrow strip view.

Randy B.

Correct me if I'm wrong;  You're saying that Sonar X1 Studio (and Essential) version (both don't have the Pro-Channel) will display the Mixer 'EQ and Graph' in both narrow and wide views?

Yes, you can see in my post #137 above, there's a screen shot of a narrow strip with the EQ plainly showing.  It seems to be the Pro Channel plug-in which clogs up the works, and I'm on X1 Studio, so don't have that plug-in.

Randy B.

rbowser

SongCraft

rbowser


Jose and Jon - I didn't mean to cause confusion.  I've been staying with the Studio versions of Sonar for some time now.  So I don't have the Pro Channel, and that's what's causing the difference in my narrow strip view.

Randy B.

Correct me if I'm wrong;  You're saying that Sonar X1 Studio (and Essential) version (both don't have the Pro-Channel) will display the Mixer 'EQ and Graph' in both narrow and wide views?

Yes, you can see in my post #137 above, there's a screen shot of a narrow strip with the EQ plainly showing.  It seems to be the Pro Channel plug-in which clogs up the works, and I'm on X1 Studio, so don't have that plug-in.

Randy B.

Thanks for that info.

So that still leaves a few design flaws in 'narrow view' such as;  overlaying of numeric (example; just under the fader/meter) and 'Track Title names abbreviated to just one letter?, that IMO is unacceptable.


       In regards to the Mixer View ~ I would suggest to CW the following:

(1): Track Numbers on a separate space above or below track titles. 

(2): Track Titles separated space above or below Track Number.  In Narrow View maybe Track-Titles could be displayed (optional) vertically between the fader and meter.   The problem with narrow view is; Track Titles don't have enough space to be displayed horizontally.

(3): Numerical Values also need to be separated above and below so that they don't 'overlap' one another.

(4): Pro Channel (Producer exclusive) needs 'EQ Graph' to automatically 'replace' of the Sonitus EQ Graph when the Pro Channel is in use.

(5): Rotary Controls look nice but aren't as mouse friendly unless the 'scroll-wheel' works effectively with option to hold 'shift' key to reduce numerical increments, another thing to consider is; Rotary Controls also takes up more space.... it be easier if the UI used horizontal sliders (example: horizontal Pan controls) much like previous versions of Sonar.   iZotope Ozone.4 , UI is the perfect example of NOT trying to look like real-life hardware controls thereby the main focus is based on user-friendliness in a software environment.

(6): FX-Bin / Plugins - those large 'Lights' displayed next to FX plugins are wasted space.  I think 'Color' the FX plugin Title/name as visual confirmation = active (on) and white-out italic/font = inactive (off) is all that's required, with Right-Click/menu option to toggle on/off.

HumbleNoise


n0rd, I think your post needs to be front and center in this thread with a dedicated link of some kind. It's really good work.

Here it is again for those who might miss the link above

http://forum.cakewalk.com...58&mpage=1#2153458

It's shame that it most likely will not be implemented by the Bakers when it in fact it should probably be adapted in its entirety.

The reason I suggest it will not be implemented is because of my previous experience with other software and user interfaces. I have seen numerous times where we, the users, come up with simply brilliant design ideas but the wheels of software development teams seem to always turn in another direction. Seems so backwards.

Here's a group of 100's of users that can be tapped for so many different purposes but sometimes the end product becomes something that no user would have designed.

I understand the difficulty and so appreciate the efforts that the Bakers have put into this product but here's an opportunity to be truly cutting edge by taking a great idea from a user and running with it.

Perhaps there are a couple of software engineers who can enlighten us on why a great idea like this (or others in your experience) may not or can not be implemented.

I wonder what the narrow console will look like in the future? Hopefully your idea, n0rd, gets some strong consideration.

Great post, just had to say so. I've often wondered this myself.