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Re:*** Did you know....Control of additional plugin parameters
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Thanks "Emwhy"! =)
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Re:*** Did you know....Control of additional plugin parameters
2009/10/05 16:31:45
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keeping it live! =)
I hope someone else has any tips in SONAR that they want to share?
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Re:*** Did you know....Control of additional plugin parameters
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You can key bind the clip indicators in both the track view and the console view. This will let you reset them with a single key press.
In the key binding dialog look for "Reset All clips and numeric peak indicators". You will need to do this twice using the same key press one in the track view and again in the console view. I use y for this.
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Re:*** Did you know....Control of additional plugin parameters
2009/10/06 03:07:23
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Thanks John!  Regards Freddie
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Re:*** Did you know....Control of additional plugin parameters
2009/10/07 07:58:03
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Re:*** Did you know....Control of additional plugin parameters
2009/10/10 01:28:20
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Some plugins have additional controls that are not shown in their instrument faceplate graphical representation on screen. (The UAD Plate140 is one of them). Although some other DAWs seem to have a more comprehensive solution for this (like presenting an optional parametric-only view of the entire plugin interface showing all controls), Sonar can also access these optional parameters.
To access the parameters from the track inspector click the arrows to the right of the Display tab at the bottom of the track inspector and select FX / Show Assignable Controls. Next, right click a control in the track inspector (below the efx bin of the track inspector), select Reassign Control, and choose the additional plugin parameter you wish to adjust.
Unfortunately (in Sonar 7PE anyway, I don't know about 8) the value of each parameter is displayed as a percentage. This is not always helpful, as adjustment in not linear in most cases, making it very difficult to calculate the actual value from the percentage.
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feedback50
Some plugins have additional controls that are not shown in their instrument faceplate graphical representation on screen. (The UAD Plate140 is one of them). Although some other DAWs seem to have a more comprehensive solution for this (like presenting an optional parametric-only view of the entire plugin interface showing all controls), Sonar can also access these optional parameters.
To access the parameters from the track inspector click the arrows to the right of the Display tab at the bottom of the track inspector and select FX / Show Assignable Controls. Next, right click a control in the track inspector (below the efx bin of the track inspector), select Reassign Control, and choose the additional plugin parameter you wish to adjust.
Unfortunately (in Sonar 7PE anyway, I don't know about 8) the value of each parameter is displayed as a percentage. This is not always helpful, as adjustment in not linear in most cases, making it very difficult to calculate the actual value from the percentage.
However, in those cases where a percentage value is acceptable, the Assignable Controls can be used as a convenient means of accessing a control within a softsynth or an effect without needing to open the plug-in's GUI.
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Re:*** Did you know....Control of additional plugin parameters
2009/10/11 11:38:18
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Can someone please make this sticky thread instead? and Jose ***Thread Bugs***
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Re:*** Did you know....Control of additional plugin parameters
2009/10/11 12:06:05
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You can key bind the clip indicators in both the track view and the console view. This will let you reset them with a single key press.
In the key binding dialog look for "Reset All clips and numeric peak indicators". You will need to do this twice using the same key press one in the track view and again in the console view. I use y for this.
I had the Console View key binded, but never was able to get the Track View to follow suit, until I successfully followed up on your valuable tip.
Thanks for the tip, John!
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Re:*** Did you know....Control of additional plugin parameters
2009/10/11 12:29:07
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Your welcome Billy.
Another tip. It seems we see a lot of problems exporting a mix to a stereo file. I have found the easiest way for me and a simple way is to use a single bus as the output for the export. When you setup your project be sure to include a master bus that all tracks and all other buses output to. This becomes the bus to select in the export dialog. You can have your final FX and other treatments on this bus too. Just be sure that this bus receives all the audio in the project either directly or via other buses. It also becomes the master volume control as well.
The reason not to use the main outs is that they should be left alone as far as changing the fader volume on them. They represent your physical outs and should be set after calibration to always output the very same dB from project to project depending on the setting of the master buss's fader. You should be able to adjust the listening volume at a point that does not impact these settings. This is one good way to always have a proper idea what the volume will be when played back on other gear. This requires that you have a way to monitor the level on the audio device outside of Sonar. The level should agree in the main outs and what you see on the sound card or the mixer used.
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Re:*** Did you know....Control of additional plugin parameters
2009/10/11 15:33:36
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Your welcome Billy.
Another tip. It seems we see a lot of problems exporting a mix to a stereo file. I have found the easiest way for me and a simple way is to use a single bus as the output for the export. When you setup your project be sure to include a master bus that all tracks and all other buses output to. This becomes the bus to select in the export dialog. You can have your final FX and other treatments on this bus too. Just be sure that this bus receives all the audio in the project either directly or via other buses. It also becomes the master volume control as well.
The reason not to use the main outs is that they should be left alone as far as changing the fader volume on them. They represent your physical outs and should be set after calibration to always output the very same dB from project to project depending on the setting of the master buss's fader. You should be able to adjust the listening volume at a point that does not impact these settings. This is one good way to always have a proper idea what the volume will be when played back on other gear. This requires that you have a way to monitor the level on the audio device outside of Sonar. The level should agree in the main outs and what you see on the sound card or the mixer used.
Yes, great tip John, and I use it in same matter as you. I have one Bus called "Sub Master"----> routed to another Bus called "MASTER" that is the absolutely last final-"BUS", then routed to the ->>"Audiocard" Another tip is that if you want example the Bus: "Sub Master" (or any other bus of your own choice) to be the "default"-bus when you make audio tracks and open VST intruments you do like this.... Its very easy! Example: ---> right click on you mouse on---> the Bus-channel in Console-view, "Sub Master"-bus and select from Menu "set as default bus". Now all new Audio channels & VST-Instrument- outputs will automaticly be route to ---> "Sub Master" as default bus. Great isn't it!  Regards Freddie
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Re:*** Did you know....Control of additional plugin parameters
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I've done too Freddie. The sub buss can come in real handy.
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Check out the November issue of EQ Magazine, Craig Anderton writes a quick column in "Power App Alley" about how to use the PX-64 (yes the PX-64) to liven up bass guitar tracks: www.eqmagazine.com (Might not be online yet, but it;s in the newstand copy).
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Re:*** Did you know....Control of additional plugin parameters
2009/10/15 03:40:48
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Okay, thanks! But the Link is dead?
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Did you know that tracking looped sections in 8.5.1 is vastly improved?
I used to get seemingly random surges that maxed out the audio engine at the loop points that used to necessitate putting a limiter on the last bus in order not to blow my brains out especially when rewired to another app. Fingers crossed, that issue seems completely cured now making me a happier bunny.
Also I'm able to double click a Sonar file and it doesn't complain that it can't find the file before loading it anyway and I haven't had to make the usual registry edit to suppress this behaviour.
It's the little things like this make my entire day a more pleasant experience....sad but true.
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Yes Jonbouy. I had also problem sometimes looping projects in SONAR 8.3.1 I got motorboat and Audio just died. I needed to re-start SONAR and then re-open the project to fix all this! That problem has disappeared in SONAR 8.5.1
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Here's one for those of us still using bundles:
Before you save the project make sure all the included audio files are the same bit depth. If not your bundle will no load properly and you'll get the dreaded "Unexplained Error" message. Found this out the hard way and it cost me BIG time.
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