mettelus
One thing I have notice with SPlat is the "not responding" in the title bar. I have seen this in screen captures of people's issues as well. Once SONAR has been run once, I do not see a notable difference between X3 and SPlat, but that "not responding" part of SPlat's initial startup bothers me. I am not sure why this occurs though.

Nothing to worry about, Sonar though should be polling Windows by some method to tell it that it is still alive however... Windows just thinks it's dead when in fact it's just processing.

Larry Jones

joden
That is because of windows pre-fetch, not sonar ;)
 

....as the important metric (IMO) is how long it takes to start the first time. 

Yep agree totally :)

In post 4 I described my experience as being "glitchy". Maybe twitchy would be better. I hadn't been having crashes or not responding issues so there were no problem reporter instances to follow through and nothing repeatable by a fixed recipe.
I had been using the Windows Ease of Access setting where hovering the mouse over a window activates it.
I've now turned it off and it seems to have made a difference for the better. I can sort of understand why that may be the case but I'll just continue to work with Dorchester and see and report any findings.
 

mettelus
One thing I have notice with SPlat is the "not responding" in the title bar. I have seen this in screen captures of people's issues as well. Once SONAR has been run once, I do not see a notable difference between X3 and SPlat, but that "not responding" part of SPlat's initial startup bothers me. I am not sure why this occurs though.

Again this is a windows thing. If a program/app/plugin seems "to windows" to be taking a bit too long to load it posts up the not responding message.

stickman393
Dorchester has been pretty stable for me. No complaints here. 
 
I think it's funny to hear people describe previous releases as "crisp and snappy" when compared to the current version. Every damn' release you hear the same story. X3 was slow and bloated compared to X2, etc etc. 90% psychological, in my opinion. 

X3e continued to be 'crisp and snappy' here whilst Plt is slow and bloated on my system and there's nothing 'psychological' about my experience.

Keni
Whew!

Nice to have projects of that sort on a machine well setup...

Are they mostly audio recordings or do they contain many soft synths and the like...

I notice that projects using all audio load fast (especially if the waveforms are current in the folder) no matter how many 64bit vst's I use (eq/comp/etc), but as soon as I start adding softsynths (even frozen), the load times increase dramatically...

Keni

Yes, I've noticed this as well.

mudgel
I seem to have found my fix. As per post 65.
After 2 hours of continued use I seem to have hit on what's been causing all my weird screen things as none have reoccurred. Just shows how careful to be when changing seemingly simple defaults on Windows can cause problems. I remember I made that change as a trial just before Dorchester came out.

*Somebody* at the Bakery should capture what you've uncovered for a "Things to check FAQ" ...

Now that you mention it, when I changed my mouse hover behavior I also checked that box. I must go back and uncheck it. Doh!

Seems like that might be a good troubleshooting tip for the folks that have these glitchy seemingly non specific window issues.

Anderton

mudgel
Seems like that might be a good troubleshooting tip for the folks that have these glitchy seemingly non specific window issues.

How true, and they'll know it only if they look at this thread...I think BobF's idea of a "things to check" doc is a very good one so observations like your get captured.

To whom could we send this info, so it might be included in a FAQ if it can be verified as being generally true, not just on my system? Currently I don't seem to have access to PM any of the Cakewalk staff. Even if we could make a sticky thread to which we could add I think over a period of time it could become unwieldy.
The idea is great, how to implement it is another. It would need some Cakewalk involvement. Maybe a troubleshooting Windows tips for Sonar in the FAQs

Yes, please. We definitely could use a DEFINITIVE troubleshooting guide geared SPECIFICALLY for Sonar. Preferably one that even breaks down into common hardware/system configs with sections regarding common plugins and other programs people may have installed (like Anti Viruses or other programs that may disrupt audio streaming).
 
Commission Mr. Roseberry to work with Cake tech support to compile the first edition and make it a living document that gets updated online as the program evolves and new issues/conflicts arise.
 
It could end up being a massive document but it would sure as heck beat having to hunt and peck around the Googles or asking the forum. It would save everyone time and angst and likely reduce the tech support budget so those fellows could focus on more future positive projects.
 
It is quite apparent that the old Sweetwater and other optimization guides are woefully outdated at this point and many of those tweaks do not apply to Sonar (or make things worse).
 
Craig, you have the Baker's ears more than the rest of us. Perhaps if you post a thread asking for user input here and set up some kind of meeting with the appropriate folks to see the viability of such an effort we can get this happening.
 
Heck, I would even pay a modest amount for such a document (like $20). That could be used to pay Mr. Roseberry for his input.
 
Cheers.
 
PS: Also a section on proper data/disk management would be excellent. As in the best way to set up drive configs laid out in plain english as well as ways to CORRECT or reconfig data paths for best performance (in case people add drives or are like me and borked up their paths from the get go). scook seems to know a lot about this so getting him involved would be good too but I would also like Jim's input as well. I'd say 90% of the issues I have are likely related to my HDD set up.

BobF
I don't remember the exact dates, but sometime in the '00 - '03 I maintained a user contributed FAQ that I updated and sent to *somebody* at Cakewalk that they in turn posted.
 
Around the time of the shift from nntp to forums that all changed ... PA9 to early Sonar time-frame, IIRC.
 
It was something I created on my own and posted in the newsgroup.  I don't think it would be terribly difficult to create/maintain/periodically post updates here.  The biggest challenge to the maintainer is dealing with people not liking the decisions on inclusion of items, dealing with attributions, etc.  IOW, dealing with people
 

Can't please everyone all of the time but for those of us willing to do the reading and effort it would be a massive boon. Despite some of the... erm... angstier folks I think us Sonarites are a pretty hearty, DIY, "stick to it until it obeys" bunch of weirdos. ;-)

I all for a FAQ for trouble shooting. If I can help let me know. 

Hiya Mike. 11:30am as of this post. I like to get more dry/complex tasks that require lucidity done in the morning (I'm currently exporting some session work... woot!) and then I can go all Mr. Flaky artsy/pontification guy as the day presses on and my mind "wanders".
 
lol
 
Hope you are well. Cheers.

John
I all for a FAQ for trouble shooting. If I can help let me know. 

This gives me an idea. Since we, the userbase, have a wide spectrum of configs perhaps Cake could put out a survey designed specifically to a) figure out the most commonly used setups, b) ask about what issues everyone experiences (and what they don't), c) cross reference it all to see if any patterns appear and finally d) use that info to create the tech manual.
 
Also leave a "notes" section so people can describe problems they've had and how they resolved them so they can test them in house and figure out if there a holes that could be plugged in the program and/or test these solutions in house to see if they are good and solid tweaks to advise to other users.
 
Just brainstorming... this should probably go in a dedicated thread. If I am too lazy or distracted to do it people can cut/paste any of my suggestions in any "official" or grassroots threads on the subject.
 
Sorry but I really do have a lot of insane crap going on right now otherwise I'd be more vigilant. THis is a VERY good idea and I'm glad it is being discussed.
 
Cheers.