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SongCraft
wicked
marah
candlesayshi
john
scoot
vuterly
thebiglongy
wdi
tcaster
russel87
gordenrussell76
blinduncledallas
agincourtdb.................................Need to prepare to relocate to Boston to help assist in, "Fine Tuning" Sonar

papi............................................With all the extra heads, they thought you could help with the "Coffee I.V.zzz"

No word as to when the notices are going out... (Somebody mentioned "Supena",,, I guess someones real name is Sue Pena... Anyway we all sure appreciate your dedication & you can count on the party of the Decade this fall after the Release.... I'm trying to come up with a benevolent fund to help defray the costs for Food & Lodging as well as trying to find a Psycologist that's a Musician too to keep everyone calm living in the Cakewalk Baking Complex..... They mentioned putting some of those "Herman Miller" or "Steelcase" demountable partitions in to give everyone their own cubicle to avoid,,,,"Cakewalk Cussout Syndrome"... They will be expecting the, "Secret Handshake" & the Michael Jackson "Moonwalk" to substantiate your, "Journeyman Status" using Sonar..... Congrats to ya'll...Even better, Winter is almost over in Boston!!!! Wildman

ORIGINAL: Willy Jones [Cakewalk]

Don't stop submitting your feature requests to us here:
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/FeatureRequest.asp

Everyone

I wanted a more in depth discussion to weigh up what we all want most and hope others will contribute to this thread in a positive way. Willy Jones has responded to one of the FR and reminded us to keep on submitting our feature requests.

I've compiled the list into one post for convenience and will continue to update it. So far there's been a lot of great ideas posted


List Updated Click Here

Feature Request Link:
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/FeatureRequest.asp

Song you have done a great job in presenting this and I like how you organized it all. Better then well done Song!

For the most part all great ideas.

Hey SongCraft,

You've done a great job of compiling this extensive list & I appreciate the time & effort you & all the others have contributed.... It's a very Comprehensive Feature Request that would put Sonar over he Top... It would be amazing if they could & would integrate all of these very important enhancements..... Based on the List there is nothing more I could hope for but once again, you've done an incredible feat by submitting this Feature Request..... Sincerely, Wildman


I hope no offense was taking by the Humor I bumped this thread along with...

Thanks Wildman.

Eric,

I like using key/board shortcuts but for anyone new to SONAR a lot of those icons-buttons to switch between views are a little too acronymic for anyone new to SONAR that is why I thought of the idea for a Tab Navigation Bar. (see pic, also see idea for FR list #10)



The customize tab would be ideal for example: displaying both trk view and mixer or bus views simultaneously along with whatever widgets one wished to include/display...... BUT unlike the current view in SONAR take it further by actually displaying the vertical vol faders (but narrower/compact faders). I suppose it be like another useful Inspection Panel but primarily for mixer/bus faders combo under customize view (Tab).

Keeping the GUI as is currently available yet fully customizable based on SONAR's original GUI is important because everyone has there own preference in how best they like to work in SONAR.

Your idea would fit perfectly in addition to my idea (see pic, above the scrollbar is where the splitterbar can be removed (option) and display for example: all tracks (Trk view) just one of various options. This would definitely maximize workspace, enhance workflow along with customization (view + widget options) allow for personal preference / options and of course key/b shortcuts between all views (as currently available in SONAR) but this tab navigation FR would also be more intuitive for anyone new to SONAR.

Having said all that, this is like having the best of both worlds but taking it further to enhance workflow and maximized the workspace.

(1) Eliminate the spitter bars on on the console view and replace them with a tabbed view; tabs on the right or left side. So to look at tracks you click on the "Tracks" tab, to see all busses, click on the "Busses" tab, etc. If seeing the tracks and busses is desired, add "All" tab for tracks and busses,etc. I find myself doing way too much left/right dragging of the splitters. I'm pretty sure I actually suggesting the splitter bars back in my Pro Audio 10 requirements document, but I never realized how awkward they'd be.

Its already there on the left side.

ORIGINAL: ...wicked

wow, this thread has been busy.

Looking at the PRV screengrab made me remember a feature I've always wanted: the ability to rotate the PRV view 90 degrees. So that the keyboard note indicator on the left side is now on TOP, aligned to how one would be sitting at a real keyboard.

I understand SONAR is a linear sequencer, but that doesn't mean it has to from L to R all the time. With the PRV, I'm often learning, transcribing, or teaching parts. Or, I just "see" it better when I can relate it to how I've always seen a keyboard (after all, I didn't take lessons sitting sideways on the bench!). This would basically make the notes and timeline run from Top to Bottom... and though somewhat Space Invaders like, I think would be much easier to GROK.

An option to rotate PRV 90%, that would eliminate neck injuries or having to sit the monitor @ 90% Actually, originally the Piano Roll better known back then as 'Pianola' rolled vertical, brings back memories of the first piano my uncle got me when I was three, my elder brother and sisters would have fun peddling those pedals, whereas I was more interested in actually playing the piano.

Later after years of hammering those keys the pianola started to fall apart, it was really old when I got it, it weighed a ton heavier compared to other upright pianos (non-pianola's) and so eventually (ten years later) got another piano (without the Pianola).

ORIGINAL: John

Maximizing Workspace! GUI Enhancements to Mixer View:
In Mixer View I would also like to see that panel on the far left removed by default (with option to display it (show/hide)), and/or be able to move that panel (option) to display across the top of the GUI Mixer View.

This would allow more workspace to display more mixer channels/faders along with these channel strips designed a little more narrower *placing widgets such as MSRW aligned on top in rows of two instead of three! Maximize Workspace without compromising clean, clear appearance of the GUI. (in other-words, don't reduce the size of widget buttons/icons)

Hey Song thats my idea! A button to use the entire window with no added stuff. No tools bars no side panels. Ideally no title bar at the top or status bar at the bottom. Just the contents of the window. For me I wouldn't want it to override the window sizing, though.

Ah! Now I get what you meant by FR listed at #18 A button to clean up the Track View (see list)

Consistency across all views preferred.

That's a perfect idea John, wow talk about 'Maximizing Workspace' to it's fullest That's how I prefer to work. This could apply in the PRV also? although in PRV both timeline and piano scale would need to be displayed yet still the workspace would be greatly enhanced. Perfect for anyone that frequently uses k/board shortcuts.

ORIGINAL: John

Ah! Now I get what you meant by FR listed at #18 A button to clean up the Track View (see list)

Consistency across all views preferred.

That's a perfect idea John, wow talk about 'Maximizing Workspace' to it's fullest That's how I prefer to work. This could apply in the PRV also? although in PRV both timeline and piano scale would need to be displayed yet still the workspace would be greatly enhanced. Perfect for anyone that frequently uses k/board shortcuts.

Exactly! Also it would work with a CS too. Yes it should be available in the PRV and the CV also the new Score Editor. LOL To me Sonar has great tool bars but they are often unneeded. There are other screen elements that could be hidden too. That was the whole idea.

When needed all that would be restored with the click of a the mouse or a key press. I think it would help with getting the most out of the valuable screen real estate.

If it's ok with you, I can edit the list by adding additional details about FR #18 and re-title: Fully Maximize View - Clear Tool Bars Button.

Done

Fix the flashing CPU meter...

What's needed is the ability to have multiple independent instances of Console View, each able to have a different view. That alone would be a good improvement, and I suspect quite an easy one to implement. (PRV already allows multiple independent instances, and it's super useful.)

Also, the ability of each Console View to wrap channel strips into two (or more) rows. And to not require that all strips show the same control sets. And to be able to change the order of the strips independent of thier order in Track View.

ORIGINAL: Marah

What's needed is the ability to have multiple independent instances of Console View, each able to have a different view. That alone would be a good improvement, and I suspect quite an easy one to implement. (PRV already allows multiple independent instances, and it's super useful.)

Also, the ability of each Console View to wrap channel strips into two (or more) rows. And to not require that all strips show the same control sets. And to be able to change the order of the strips independent of thier order in Track View.

All good ideas and often asked for. The need for two CVs is totally clear.

ORIGINAL: Fog

ORIGINAL: SongCraft

11: Perfect Sampler:
Consolidate, integrate all the Best of CW Softsynths into a new all in one Mega-Sampler which I'll dub the Perfect Sampler.....

with the ability to load any file format, up to 64 chn mixer (i/o) with multi-effects directly accessible in Perfect Sampler. Inlcu' separate outputs (various options). Content sound library manager browser with search fully integrated in the Perfect Sampler (no separate popup window). Ability to layer sounds (by assigning same midi channel). Advanced and

my guess , thats not going to happen for a few reasons (ones that hopefully make sense).. unless they have a 3rd party one licensed etc.

1.. the sheer cost of R&D that would come close to match NI Kontakt (it'd have to be a stand alone product to justify the dev cost) . To expect it to be bundled is unrealistic. ableton has a sampler, BUT it's an additional cost.

2. there are plenty of things to get by with playback wise currently.. I'd rather have seen rx2 uses as a native format..like acid loops are.

as for perfect drummer, kinda for the same reasons.. whether it be battery , ez drummer, bfd? etc..

Thanks for bringing up an important point.

Actually CW has almost done that already, Dimension Pro, next will be Rapture Pro and Beatscape revamped!! What next? Point is, SONAR.PE is in danger of becoming bloatware. Therefor my suggestion.....

ORIGINAL: SongCraft
Consolidate, integrate all the Best of CW Softsynths

.... right now SONAR.PE has a bloatful of plugins, softsynths and content, often someone will post that same ole' question for example; oh I wish SONAR had a 909, 808'ish drum kit? answer: it's right there in SONAR (GrooveSynth), they didn't know that but these sorts of questions are often posted on the forums. My solution.... Searchable Browser integrated into a revamped VSTi host (Perfect Sampler) or more likely revamped Drop Zone, Dimension Pro for example! but with more advance editing features apart from the basic ADSR such as more 'velocity control' over res, cut-off, filters, midi layering and velocity switch options. SONAR.PE already has a bloatful of great sounds buried deep inside SONAR therefor I suggested Perfect Sampler to a quick-searchable browser fully integrated then yes! This would be in similar vein to Kontakt. Now add Roland hardware technology (similar to Kore2) and you have a CW version of hardware interface to quickly, easily tweak all those great sounds buried deep within SONAR.

Having said that! IMHO I strongly believe it would be best if CW moves away from these 'Yearly SONAR releases" (FR listed # 34: Sonar - Less Yearly Update Driven Development: [Marah])

I (added) suggested CW change to at least every 18 months (allowing the devs an extra 6 months to get it right)

Thereby CW devs would have extra time to focus more on quality of SONAR releases, focus on a leaner, more rock solid DAW, continue to focus on quality content and provide various options (including FX plugins suites and also as individual plugins) Therefor IMHO I think the Perfect Sampler is a good suggestion.


Additional Edit:

Fog,

NOT all these idea's posted for FR (listed) is expected to be in SONAR future releases, I don't expect all my ideas if any will be included in SONAR. It's CW decision not yours, not mine, but it don't hurt to submit to FR because you never know. CW (see Willy Jones post page one) said... Don't stop submitting to Feature Request.

Fog, if you have any ideas you want to submit to FR then please share it with us (post it here). Thanks.