STinGA

It would be really interesting to find out if anyone is using a BCF with a Studio version of Sonar without your problems just to rule that out. I can't believe that's the issue but it really doesn't make any sense to me at all. I hate being defeated as well........

 
So frustrating isn't it,
 
Actually FBB that why I closed the original thread to find out if there were any other STUDIO users successfuly using a BCF.  So far no takers.  lets ask again just in case.
 
" Anybody using Sonar STUDIO 8.5.3 with a BCF2000, that has the track EQ workiing???? - anybody?"
 
Actually I may have answered this myself, as I downloaded the trial of 8 PE, it didn't work with that either :-(
 
I think for my own sanity I have to find and answer to this.  Tomorrow I will write out a comprhensive list of things I have done, just incase anything is glaring.
 
Thanks again y'all.

My gut tells me there's something missing in the configuration or procedures, somehow.   One thing comes to mind we haven't fully addressed, though it may not apply to your setup:
 
I had an Akai MPD18 that uses a generic Windows "Audio Device" driver.  It used to cause some problems when using the BCF 2000.  Once I removed that device, all was well.
 
So MAYBE there's some conflict with drivers in your system as well?  Worth looking into perhaps.
 
 

The thing that really niggles me is that BCF just doesn't see the EQ at all, unless it is in the effects bin.

 
That gives me a hint at least.
 
I have not tried to use the BCF with 3rd party EQ at all yet.  It does work with the inline Sontius EQ easily though.
 
To use it with plugins in the FX bin takes a bit more maneuvering, so I don't bother.   It seems to want to 'scroll' through each item which is a long/tedious process, so I just don't use it that way.
 
However, one thing I DO do is to then use the BCF in a "remote control" function, which only takes a few seconds to setup.  Or I use any one of my other MIDI controllers.
 
Basically "Remote Control" uses MIDI learn which is very quick and easy.
 
So that may explain why I wasn't grasping the problem.   Maybe it just doesn't work well with non "inline" plugins.
But, as I say, there are workarounds (easier too).
 
 

FastBikerBoy

ba_midi

The thing that really niggles me is that BCF just doesn't see the EQ at all, unless it is in the effects bin.

That gives me a hint at least.

I have not tried to use the BCF with 3rd party EQ at all yet.  It does work with the inline Sontius EQ easily though.

To use it with plugins in the FX bin takes a bit more maneuvering, so I don't bother.   It seems to want to 'scroll' through each item which is a long/tedious process, so I just don't use it that way.

However, one thing I DO do is to then use the BCF in a "remote control" function, which only takes a few seconds to setup.  Or I use any one of my other MIDI controllers.

Basically "Remote Control" uses MIDI learn which is very quick and easy.

So that may explain why I wasn't grasping the problem.   Maybe it just doesn't work well with non "inline" plugins.
But, as I say, there are workarounds (easier too).

Billy, if I understand Paul correctly he's not trying to use a 3rd party EQ. He can't see the Sonitus EQ unless it's inserted into the effects bin. He should be able to see it both in EQ mode and as the first plugin in plugin mode without inserting it. Almost as if the EQ (to the BCF at least) isn't there. If that is the case it seems very strange, I'm really at a loss.

Heh, I guess I'm getting confused as the mystery evolves.... but I'm pretty much at a loss as well :(
 
 

I was thinking... may be the MackieControl.ini has gotten corrupted. This definition file controls defines how a mackie control surface and Sonar interact with each other and I know the EQ definitions are in there. Since the BCF is emulating a Mackie device it might be a place to look.  On my system the file is located in C:\Program Files\Cakewalk

George

STinGA

I was thinking... may be the MackieControl.ini has gotten corrupted. This definition file controls defines how a mackie control surface and Sonar interact with each other and I know the EQ definitions are in there. Since the BCF is emulating a Mackie device it might be a place to look. On my system the file is located in C:\Program Files\Cakewalk

 
Hi again George,
 
We had a look at the mackiecontrol.ini in the thread that preceeded this one, and couldn't find any issue there.  Since then I have re-installed Sonar, so that seems to rule that out.  I will re-check it though, In fact I'll repost it just incase there is something glaring we missed last time.
 
Thanks again.

Hmm, I'mot not sure a reinstall (without first uninstalling everything) will overwrite existing files.  So maybe George has a point ... ie, that the ini file is corrupt and the reinstall thinks it's there, so it's ok.
 
WHy not rename the file for now and try another reinstall?
 
It's a long shot, but a shot.
 
 

Ok,

ini file renamed, re-installed sonar, no different!

Just as I had a glimmer of hope :-)

Sigh. Well, if I scratch my head on this anymore, I'll start to go bald LOL. I seriously don't know what else to suggest.

 
 
I know what you mean, I think its time to put this one to bed as unsolved - If anyone has a brainstorm in the future please feel free to re-open the case.
 
My sincerest thanks to all for your efforts.
 
\m/ Paul \m/