spacey


You got that right myolpal.
Now they're welcome to visit but they gotta understand that company is
like underwear....after a couple of days it's time for a change.
 
I loved Space_Cowboys post...I think I know what he thinks of Mexico LOL.
 
I'd really get a kick out of seeing the eyes of any of those big city boys while they were
skittin' and gettin' with that razorback on their heels LOL ...now that's funny chit.
 
Ya know it just seems nuts to me...I've read about how much gas a person let's loose
everyday and seeing all those city folk piled up...well I have laugh my butt off and all the
while I'm enjoying the nice aroma of the woods watching the wildlife do it's thing.
Yesterday I watch a beautiful hawk ...killing it's lunch. Wouldn't trade that for all the cement
in the world.
 
Can ya get arrested in the city for pissin' off your back porch?
If so...what do they charge ya with?
 
I have a serious question too...I see them handcuff people all the time on TV and the
cops tell them it's for everyones protection until everyone knows what's going on...
Don't they know that a cop can't legally handcuff one until they are under arrest?
Why don't they tell them, "sorry, you need to wait until I'm arrested for something before
you slap those on me"....hell the crazy one could still be close by and now they're all tied
up and can't get to their gun if they need it... now I think it's because those city folks sniff
way to much gas...I could be wrong.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

You're right about that, sir. NYC stinks. Just leave a window open and it isn't long before you see that layer of carbon dust everywhere in the house.


NYC also stinks on garbage night - which is basically every night it seems. Walking on narrower avenues on my way to pick my wife up every night is a permanent aggression for the nostrils.  Quite pungent.


NYC also stinks when you walk in front of a lot of big hotels and habitation towers because half the people here have dogs, and those creature have to do their business somewhere. And dog pee stinks.


But more than all of this -  New York is NOISY. 


For example, back home, when you honk, it's the ultimate warning - it comes right before the fist fight, so honking is not a thing you do lightly, not until you are ready to engage your adversary in a serious dual. Here in NY, people do it all the time - sometime even when there's no other car in sight. They honk casually.

It's like their way to blow steam. Unfortunately, while it may help them dealing w/ their frustration, it only increases the frustration of every one around them. And since the majority of them drive like idiots (in order to rival w/ cab drivers I imagine), they permanently need to blow steam.


Seriously, if you live in NY and you can't identify w/ the "hero" in the movie NOISE, something is wrong w/ you ;)

I'm lucky enough not to have to go underground that often, except for our weekly trip to East Village. That particular line can be hot as hell, but I've smelled worst.

Last year, we lived on a lower floor and our suite was on 42nd side. Since we're near the Lincoln Tunnel, it's a honk fest between 2 pm and 8 pm almost everyday. We're up higher this year and on 41st side, so it does effectively cancel a lot of the noise - and as you say, the noise floor is quite high.

But having spend the first 20 years of my life in a small town of 11 000, any city is noisy by comparison. 

I'm hoping we'll have a relatively quiet neighborhood in Vegas, away from the strip. But ultimately, we'll go back up north, in the mountain. There's nothing like the sound of the wind shaking leaves in the trees and a river for a background noise. :)

Hi,

Kinda strange ... but I measure things a bit different ... for example, Seattle and Portland, are very big small towns ... and can be really boring. The music scene is really dry, rehashed and usually centered on "traditional" because they do not know what music is. Portland, specially is known for really cheap equipment for your concert, so make sure you have your own and sound person, or you will sound like every garage band out there. 3 times in a row Ozric Tentacles had its music ruined.  A couple of others, were warned by yours trully. Ohhh ... btw ... don't bring keyboards to Portland or Seattle ... they don't know what anything is past grundge, which has no keyboards ... right!

LA/Orange, was great for fun and concerts and movies ... but in the past 20 years it has gotten worse. The drive from Santa Barbara to 5th and Broadway, for example, used to take exactly 83 minutes. Today ... about 125 minutes if you are lucky and don't catch nasty traffic or an accident. Takes the fun out of going to LA to see things ... in those days ... LZ is in LA ... voooooommmm .... PF is in LA ...... vooooommmm ... new Christopher Lee movie in LA ... voooommmmm .... Babe Ruth at the Whiskey .... voooooommmmm .... film with Jane Asher in LA ..... vooommmmm .... film with Marianne Faithful in LA ... voooommmmmm .... you get the idea!

NY, I suppose, is the place I would love to check out and enjoy ... my problem being ... I am not sure I can afford everything I want to catch and see ... except one ... you will never catch me watching the Broadway re-hashes ... so tired of that old crap being redone every day ... but you can see some great names in acting and that is kewl, and I would love to come visit Lipton at the Actor's Studio.  I have written him a nice letter, and there are some requests there ... got a nice reply too!

For music and film, art and literature ... there are only 3 places in the world worth being in ... London, NY and Paris ... even Tokyo, but that one is a bit isolated from the other big 3 ... and not quite the same but it is quite international.

The important thing to remember is things like this ... perspective ... when it comes to the arts and the music ... The Ramones would never have made it if they were in North Dakota or Needles, AZ. The press and the sales in NY made them. The same thing for the Sex Pistols in London ... they would never make it in SF, or Seattle ... and even grundge in Seattle did not go very far until 2 of their bands hit it big! ... like David Letterman did not help with one of them, either!

The big cities bring an incredible amount of different things that are hard to appreciate elsewhere ... they also give you the biggest amount of trash there is ... and we don't have to discuss the "refuse" bill in NY, London or Paris ... that have such a colorful and smelly history! But because it sold a very large number in one of these big cities ... all of a sudden many of these become the "hit" and the "star" and the next big thing ... and many times ... they are just over rated ... and not that good, anyway ... but they have a right to be there!

Literature is the same, because in the rest of America, no one knows anyone else ... folks in NY know Burroughs, Baldwin and Southern and others ... in SF they know their Kesey, Kerouac and Bach but not the others as well ... and in Chicago, no one knows those folks at all ... and of course, sometimes even mentioning or discussing stuff like this in a fan bored ... gets no one anywhere at all! But it's fun ... to see how much one does not know ... I never claim to know anything anyway!

Hi,

Rain, if I go to NY, I go straight to the Actor's Studio ... I have some acting exercises (mentioned here btw) that Mr. Lipton is interested in ... my problem being ... I not only can not afford it, I have no place to stay  ... etc ... etc ... I would spend my time scouring used record stores and checking out the concerts ... I can catch a Robert Fripp there, I will never catch him in Portland or Seattle! Or a Peter Hammill ... or Tangerine Dream one more time before I go ... or Ryuichi Sakamoto one more time ... but it will never happen elsewhere.

Moshkiae


Hi,

Rain, if I go to NY, I go straight to the Actor's Studio ... I have some acting exercises (mentioned here btw) that Mr. Lipton is interested in ... my problem being ... I not only can not afford it, I have no place to stay  ... etc ... etc ... I would spend my time scouring used record stores and checking out the concerts ... I can catch a Robert Fripp there, I will never catch him in Portland or Seattle! Or a Peter Hammill ... or Tangerine Dream one more time before I go ... or Ryuichi Sakamoto one more time ... but it will never happen elsewhere.

I'll never forget my first day in New York, after moving into my apartment on the Upper West Side I took a stroll down Broadway and passed a little jazz club/bar called Smoke. On the blackboard outside: "Tonight: George Benson." My jaw just dropped. Where else are you going to see a star play in a tiny little place like that. 

sharke

Moshkiae


Hi,

Rain, if I go to NY, I go straight to the Actor's Studio ... I have some acting exercises (mentioned here btw) that Mr. Lipton is interested in ... my problem being ... I not only can not afford it, I have no place to stay  ... etc ... etc ... I would spend my time scouring used record stores and checking out the concerts ... I can catch a Robert Fripp there, I will never catch him in Portland or Seattle! Or a Peter Hammill ... or Tangerine Dream one more time before I go ... or Ryuichi Sakamoto one more time ... but it will never happen elsewhere.

I'll never forget my first day in New York, after moving into my apartment on the Upper West Side I took a stroll down Broadway and passed a little jazz club/bar called Smoke. On the blackboard outside: "Tonight: George Benson." My jaw just dropped. Where else are you going to see a star play in a tiny little place like that. 

You know, almost every night I pass in front of what used to be "The Scene" on 46th - where Hendrix used to go jam (that's where they recorded that bootleg of him and Morrison, completely drunk). Looks like a disaffected building now. 


But I can't help thinking that somewhere out there in NY, any given night, something similar could happen. 

spacey

yorolpal


Me and Spacey just happen to live in one of the coolest (and also hottest this year) places on Earth but (and my apologies if you don't concur Spacey,  ol pal) we'd just as soon that nobody else knew about it at all.  Why'nt yall all go to Houston or New York City or one a them other cool places.  Nothin ta see down heah.  Ya'll don't come back now, ya heah:-)

You got that right myolpal.
Now they're welcome to visit but they gotta understand that company is
like underwear....after a couple of days it's time for a change.
 
I loved Space_Cowboys post...I think I know what he thinks of Mexico LOL.
 
I'd really get a kick out of seeing the eyes of any of those big city boys while they were
skittin' and gettin' with that razorback on their heels LOL ...now that's funny chit.
 
Ya know it just seems nuts to me...I've read about how much gas a person let's loose
everyday and seeing all those city folk piled up...well I have laugh my butt off and all the
while I'm enjoying the nice aroma of the woods watching the wildlife do it's thing.
Yesterday I watch a beautiful hawk ...killing it's lunch. Wouldn't trade that for all the cement
in the world.
 
Can ya get arrested in the city for pissin' off your back porch?
If so...what do they charge ya with?
 
I have a serious question too...I see them handcuff people all the time on TV and the
cops tell them it's for everyones protection until everyone knows what's going on...
Don't they know that a cop can't legally handcuff one until they are under arrest?
Why don't they tell them, "sorry, you need to wait until I'm arrested for something before
you slap those on me"....hell the crazy one could still be close by and now they're all tied
up and can't get to their gun if they need it... now I think it's because those city folks sniff
way to much gas...I could be wrong.
 
 
 
 
    
 
 
 

i have seen a hawk killing a squirel in herman park, which is in the center of the city.  i have seen hawks circling bayous looking for opossum.  i have seen white owls perched over a restaurant near the Rice campus.  Some of our bayous have gators.  we have huge colonies of raccoons in storm drains in parts of the city.  I have seen several of them making their way through 4' garbage cans.  



The big Piney is just northeast of Houston.  We have a lot of wildlife for a city.  Not Arkansas mind you.  

I'm sure not someone to put down a place
I've never been.

I can say about the only thing I miss about Houston
is Mark Wessells.
I hope is new band is coming along great and we get
to hear from him soon.

To heck with the hawks...maybe we need carrier pigeons.

space_cowboy

spacey

i have seen a hawk killing a squirel in herman park, which is in the center of the city.  i have seen hawks circling bayous looking for opossum.  i have seen white owls perched over a restaurant near the Rice campus.  Some of our bayous have gators.  we have huge colonies of raccoons in storm drains in parts of the city.  I have seen several of them making their way through 4' garbage cans.   

I'd never seen a raccoon or a squirrel until I moved to the city in my twenties. I don't think I had ever seen a rat (except as pets) before we arrived in NY. As far as wild life where I come from, I remember jackrabbits, a few skunks, beavers and bats - loved those, we used to catch them to see what they really looked like when we were kids. The rest of the wild life had plenty of forest to stay hidden from us.


I wish I could see possums! Anything w/ no more than 4 legs is ok in my book, though I may prefer to see them from a distance.


Unfortunately, the type of creatures everyone talks about since we're moving to Vegas are humongous spiders and scorpions. Oh, and the occasional snake. Lovely.

sharke

Moshkiae


Hi,

Rain, if I go to NY, I go straight to the Actor's Studio ... I have some acting exercises (mentioned here btw) that Mr. Lipton is interested in ... my problem being ... I not only can not afford it, I have no place to stay  ... etc ... etc ... I would spend my time scouring used record stores and checking out the concerts ... I can catch a Robert Fripp there, I will never catch him in Portland or Seattle! Or a Peter Hammill ... or Tangerine Dream one more time before I go ... or Ryuichi Sakamoto one more time ... but it will never happen elsewhere.

I'll never forget my first day in New York, after moving into my apartment on the Upper West Side I took a stroll down Broadway and passed a little jazz club/bar called Smoke. On the blackboard outside: "Tonight: George Benson." My jaw just dropped. Where else are you going to see a star play in a tiny little place like that. 

Les Paul used to play two shows at the Iridium Room on Columbus Circle.  I saw him once and got a brief chance to talk to him.  The Thomas Edison of music.  RIP Les

Old55


"Hip" is in the eye of the beholder.  There are many reasons to live where we do.  If you're into art and music, a big city is hip.  If you're into quiet and calm, the country is hip.  Any given place has good and bad points.  We each have to decide what's important.  I've lived in Orange County and San Diego in California mostly because of my job.  

These lists are just for entertainment and fun discussions like this.  Is anyone really going to move just because they saw a name on a list?  

BTW, statistics aren't all that important--unless your one of them.    

I sure agree with all of that.
 
The really bad thing is when one needs to leave and doesn't have the funds
to get out.
Relocating can be expensive even if one isn't going far and there are many
reasons that can blow the expense so high that they can't find a way out.
Now that would make a place a nightmare to me.
 
I would hate to think about relocating now. "Sell it" just doesn't cover everything
and the thought of how much stuff to move, plus the cost....just a nightmare.
 
I had a good friend that didn't want to own anything. He didn't have to take care
of it and he could go in just a minute. Kinda envy that as that is how I was until
I got married.....wouldn't change a thing though.
Come to think of it...he got all of his equipment repo'd in the middle of week
gig LOL...the band had to buy the equipment...what a dude he was. R.I.P. Jimmy. Miss ya brother.