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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/01 18:02:08
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Seems to me that lots of folks have requested more color customization. Just wondering if there is a particular reason this has not yet been addressed... and whether there are plans to address it in a future update (or version)?
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/01 20:44:30
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So how often do Sonar put out new DAWs these days? Fortnightly?
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/01 20:53:20
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I was referring to the new behavior we have for lasso selection vs time selection. Time selection is now achieved by click and drag. Lasso selection is done via right click and drag. Ahhh... I see. That's certainly a different approachh. Though potentially a very good idea after thinking about it a bit.
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/02 05:07:10
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montezuma So how often do Sonar put out new DAWs these days? Fortnightly? It's been about two years with X1 now ... Best Regards Ludvig
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/02 11:55:51
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/02 13:04:20
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bmb Seems to me that lots of folks have requested more color customization. Just wondering if there is a particular reason this has not yet been addressed... and whether there are plans to address it in a future update (or version)? I am wondering too. Whats so out-of-the-world complicated about the comprehensive color customization feature that it cant be included ? And wait a min, the real question is NOT why its not included now, but actually why on earth it is removed from previous versions ? It was there in Sonar 7 and probably also in 8, 8.5, etc. So why doesn't it work in X1 ? Its the age of 24 and 32-bit color, 16 million colors and things like that are so common. There should be textures even apart from plain colors which is common in many MS Win software. And Sonar being primarily Win-based and upgraded for such amazing advanced features like R-mix, Prochannel, etc.; color customization should be a cakewalk (pun intended... :-)). Or as I am not a software pro, is it really such a difficult thing to do ? It'll be great if we are heard out on this and Cakewalk resolves the color thing in X2.....otherwise amazing DAW for everything else...no doubt !
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/02 20:17:20
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is it really such a difficult thing to do ? I'm assuming it actually is because very few DAWs currently or have ever offered color customization on par with CW. Even newer ones like Studio One. That said... of all the things in X1, the console strips are probably the first things I'd change if I could. At the same time, there are many things that I'd put before color customization on my personal list. And given the list of automation changes Noel listed, one of the biggest just may be addressed in more ways than one - I'll take changes like that over non-dull grey console strips. Though I still look forward to the time when I can pick a different color.
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ramscapri
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/03 13:45:59
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stevec is it really such a difficult thing to do ? I'm assuming it actually is because very few DAWs currently or have ever offered color customization on par with CW. Even newer ones like Studio One. That said... of all the things in X1, the console strips are probably the first things I'd change if I could. At the same time, there are many things that I'd put before color customization on my personal list. And given the list of automation changes Noel listed, one of the biggest just may be addressed in more ways than one - I'll take changes like that over non-dull grey console strips. Though I still look forward to the time when I can pick a different color. Point taken. No doubt that an overhaul of great features can be expected in X2. X1 was such when it launched over 8.5. Lack of color customization alone was no reason to refrain from using X1 and undoubtedly may not be for upgrading to X2. I love Sonar ! X1 is great. X2 is expected to be even better....but.... Lets even assume that it is a difficult programming task to color customize and CW is unique in whatever it offers which other DAWs dont offer. But thats where the question haunts again : Why was this sort of downgraded ? Greater color customization was already there in versions previous to X1 ! The difficult feature was already achieved ! Why did it disappear in X1 ? I am sure colors of console strips and track strips and lots of other GUI parameters could be changed easily in previous versions. Then why did that vanish in X1 ? Someone correct me if I assume wrong. Lets at least concur that the issue is not of introducing full color customization as something new, but rather bringing back what already existed before X1 but was taken away in X1 for some reason beyond comprehension !
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/03 14:01:36
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think X1 was a complete new build from the ground up. This would explain why some of the features in the older versions didn't make it to the new build. X2 sounds to me like a great addition to what was in X1...I'm certainly looking forward to getting it.
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/03 14:10:10
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Me too ! Cant wait for X2. But I would like to change colors of my console strips, track strips and lots of other stuff freely and at will. Hope that will be possible......keeping fingers crossed.
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/03 14:32:11
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I would too but it's not a deal breaker for me. There's just too much good stuff in X2 that I'm looking forward to.
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/03 14:43:04
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bmb Seems to me that lots of folks have requested more color customization. Just wondering if there is a particular reason this has not yet been addressed... and whether there are plans to address it in a future update (or version)? I've been thinking the same way about the inability to rearrange tabs in the Multidock. You'd figure they were using some C++ GUI toolkit like WxWidgets, in which case it would just be a simple matter of enabling drag and drop functionality. Rearranging tabs is pretty much standard fare these days, same with color customization. Let's face it, those colors are stored in a file somewhere, and customization would just be a matter of implementing a standard color picker widget and saving the colors.
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/03 15:43:28
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NO way all of sonar was written anew color and fully custimizable menus and button bars took 4 versions in Sonar Classic. more than 4 years. So prolly X3, at least another year.
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/03 17:16:40
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djwayne Correct me if I'm wrong --- OK, you are wrong. X1 was not a complete build from the ground up, it would take several years.
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/03 20:30:54
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X1 was not a complete build from the ground up Correct. From what I can recall most of the "guts" were carried over from 8.5 but with many tweaks where needed. However, AFAIK the main UI actually was rebuilt in X1 which is probably why color customization took a hit. The screen captures they're showing for X2 do have some changes, so perhaps they're getting all of this stuff worked out before tackling customization. For the sake of console view strips I hope this is the case.
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/03 20:36:57
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+1 on bringing back the fuller color customization of 8.5. I do like the color scheme better in the X2 video.
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/03 20:55:39
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk ] tomixornot In the video, low latency.. 1.1 msec ... I wonder what interface Cake is using :) If it's VS = Octa = Quad, I'm happy! Roland Octa-Capture. That's the lowest setting for their VS Streaming driver (same in VS-700, VS-100, Quad=Capture). SP Seth, will latency in X2 be improved generally, with just about any interface? I'm doing pretty well right now tracking @ 4.4 msec roundtrip with ASIO 24/88.2 and using Apogee AD/DA-16X and a Lynx AES16 card, but that setting does get bogged down with larger projects. It would be cool as cream to drop that latency down another notch. That means I could stop yearning for a nice mixer (like an SSL Matrix) for zero latency. Yes, getting to 1.1 or any lower than 4.4 would make that much of a difference!
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Re:New X2 Video
2012/09/03 22:09:55
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I'm startin to figger color will just be ignored forever. Well, until MS decides on a new color scheme/command bar theme, Win9,...??? And eventually most of us will stop whinin about how it used to be better. Even though we cannot tell what bus has focus.
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