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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/13 19:24:18
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Thank you Alex! 
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/13 20:05:58
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/13 21:25:49
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CakeAlexS
There you go you can forget about the newsletter.
The problem with this is that without the newsletter (etc) you have to read this forum every day or risk missing out on a particular deal. If you happen to be waiting for such a deal, you can't miss a day. That said, there's an awful lot to be learned by reading this forum everyday so I'm not really complaining (it's just that I hate it when things don't work as they should, such as the newsletter and the emails). But they're apparently working on it, and that's good enough for me.
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/13 22:14:05
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SilkTone
The short version is that if you rely on VSTi plugins that send MIDI events out, you will get crosstalk into other tracks when you record on them (say from an external MIDI controller). In addition, if you have more than 1 VSTi sending MIDI events out, Sonar will crash. There are no workarounds for these two issues. I absolutely rely on more than one VSTi sending MIDI events out, and since Sonar can't handle this I'm forced to use another DAW that can.
The crash and "crosstalk" have both been addressed in X3D along with other issues related to MIDI out VST's. We can't guarantee that every, MIDI out issue you ran into was resolved, since that is a mile long thread and the description covers many issues. In the future if you report issues please log a single problem per bug report. It makes tracking them infinitely easier, unambiguous and minimizes the chance of the report being misinterpreted. It also greatly improves the chance of the issue being addressed in a more timely fashion, leading to less frustration for all concerned.
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/13 22:19:46
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Brilliant stuff . Still prefer a mystery though! (like watching other people doing the guessing as to what is in X3D, or assuming what won't be in it  ).
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/13 22:52:50
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
The crash and "crosstalk" have both been addressed in X3D along with other issues related to MIDI out VST's.
Promising indeed !
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 04:57:37
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 Still no email here 
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 07:43:33
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
SilkTone
The short version is that if you rely on VSTi plugins that send MIDI events out, you will get crosstalk into other tracks when you record on them (say from an external MIDI controller). In addition, if you have more than 1 VSTi sending MIDI events out, Sonar will crash. There are no workarounds for these two issues. I absolutely rely on more than one VSTi sending MIDI events out, and since Sonar can't handle this I'm forced to use another DAW that can.
The crash and "crosstalk" have both been addressed in X3D along with other issues related to MIDI out VST's.
We can't guarantee that every, MIDI out issue you ran into was resolved, since that is a mile long thread and the description covers many issues. In the future if you report issues please log a single problem per bug report. It makes tracking them infinitely easier, unambiguous and minimizes the chance of the report being misinterpreted. It also greatly improves the chance of the issue being addressed in a more timely fashion, leading to less frustration for all concerned.
This is good news, and I don't even use MIDI. Good to see some bugs in core functionality (as this clearly is) being addressed. I have noted a few such bugs myself (e.g., snap, zoom) that I hope also get resolved in X3d. And I for one am appreciative of folks like Silk Tone who raise these issues and keep after them in the spirit of trying to helping all of us get a better product.
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 10:26:03
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Alex, your avatar is staring at me and creeping me out.
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 11:58:06
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bapu
Wookiee
Still no email here
I'm all male here.
Me is all Wookiee and I still have no email
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 11:58:17
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
SilkTone
The short version is that if you rely on VSTi plugins that send MIDI events out, you will get crosstalk into other tracks when you record on them (say from an external MIDI controller). In addition, if you have more than 1 VSTi sending MIDI events out, Sonar will crash. There are no workarounds for these two issues. I absolutely rely on more than one VSTi sending MIDI events out, and since Sonar can't handle this I'm forced to use another DAW that can.
The crash and "crosstalk" have both been addressed in X3D along with other issues related to MIDI out VST's.
We can't guarantee that every, MIDI out issue you ran into was resolved, since that is a mile long thread and the description covers many issues. In the future if you report issues please log a single problem per bug report. It makes tracking them infinitely easier, unambiguous and minimizes the chance of the report being misinterpreted. It also greatly improves the chance of the issue being addressed in a more timely fashion, leading to less frustration for all concerned.
Wow, this will truly be a miracle Xmas for me, I'm really excited to get back to using Sonar. Thanks Noel for getting a handle on these issues  . Apologies for getting hot about these bugs on various occasions but it has been driving me crazy.
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 12:01:21
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> Apologies for getting hot about these bugs on various occasions but it has been driving me crazy. It ain't over till the fat lady sings: http://youtu.be/goT8e4KOhVU Plug over...
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 12:57:11
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CJaysMusic
Boy, i sure hope they "fixed" the track view scrolling with the mouse wheel. Just like it was in X2.
Agreed +1000 - it really sucks now. A real "improvement" that was in fact the total opposite of that.
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 13:09:57
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Great to hear about the forthcoming X3d update. I knew it was in the works, but I figured it would not be released until after Winter NAMM 2014. I am quite happy to be wrong in this case. Makes for a nice little xmas present for all X3 users.
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 18:26:17
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 18:30:30
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 18:38:46
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Wookiee
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
For those that missed the email, I have posted it as a sticky. I'll try to update it every week:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/This-weeks-SONAR-X3-Newsletter-m2949908.aspx
Got that one but I am wrong in thinking that there was another email about x3d implied??????
We mentioned it in the drum section. We will obviously have a dedicated one with more information next week. It's coming really soon! I'll make sure to post it here.
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 18:57:58
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any chance of a fixes list, or do we have to wait & see (with baited breath)? :-P
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 19:17:41
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PLEASE SIR I WANT THE FIXES LIST  SORRY BUT MY SECRETARY IS STILL BUSY TYPING IT OUT!!  BUT....  (Sorry Andrew I appreciate you are not Mr Burns.... quite the opposite ...).
post edited by CakeAlexS - 2013/12/14 23:24:37
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 19:24:44
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lawp
any chance of a fixes list, or do we have to wait & see (with baited breath)? :-P
We will post the final fix list with the update. You won't be waiting that long :)
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 19:25:12
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 23:08:00
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☄ Helpfulby Skyline_UK 2013/12/15 03:54:50
I intercepted a confidential Cakewalk email!! Here's the list of fixes:
1. Something that was annoying
2. Another thing that was annoying
3. Something they thought they'd caught earlier
4. A bunch of stuff no one has ever noticed, but they fixed it anyway
5. An incredibly esoteric bug relating to someone else's plug-in
6. Another thing that was annoying
7. A bug that caused Sonar to crash on alternate Tuesdays for some leap years during particular phases of the moon when using Celeron-based Toshiba laptops equipped with a prime number amount of RAM
8. The CE buzz with 64-bit operation
Also, the video enhancements consist of things that enhance video.
You're welcome!
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 23:17:58
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Anderton
I intercepted a confidential Cakewalk email!! Here's the list of fixes:
1. Something that was annoying
2. Another thing that was annoying
3. Something they thought they'd caught earlier
4. A bunch of stuff no one has ever noticed, but they fixed it anyway
5. An incredibly esoteric bug relating to someone else's plug-in
6. Another thing that was annoying
7. A bug that caused Sonar to crash on alternate Tuesdays for some leap years during particular phases of the moon when using Celeron-based Toshiba laptops equipped with a prime number amount of RAM
8. The CE buzz with 64-bit operation
Also, the video enhancements consist of things that enhance video.
You're welcome!
 How come you know all this? I wasn't told! And the talent button wasn't fixed!!!
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/14 23:36:37
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Anderton
I intercepted a confidential Cakewalk email!! Here's the list of fixes:
1. Something that was annoying
2. Another thing that was annoying
3. Something they thought they'd caught earlier
4. A bunch of stuff no one has ever noticed, but they fixed it anyway
5. An incredibly esoteric bug relating to someone else's plug-in
6. Another thing that was annoying
7. A bug that caused Sonar to crash on alternate Tuesdays for some leap years during particular phases of the moon when using Celeron-based Toshiba laptops equipped with a prime number amount of RAM
8. The CE buzz with 64-bit operation
Also, the video enhancements consist of things that enhance video.
You're welcome!
It's an overused phrase I know but this time it's true: LOL
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/15 00:24:43
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Anderton
That Keurig coffee maker was a great investment
Well, if a new coffee maker for the office = a new update, imagine what a new car would bring...
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/15 17:11:02
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CakeAlexS
PLEASE SIR I WANT THE FIXES LIST
Alex, I can read lips! The poor kid clearly wants more porridge... I mean, REALLY! How many fixes lists do you think would fit in that bowel anyway?
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Splat
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/15 17:13:13
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> many fixes lists do you think would fit in that bowel anyway
It's a tossup between 11 and 64 :).
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Re: X3D to be released next week!!
2013/12/15 17:52:39
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