Looks like a pattern.
 
I skip upgrades of Finale because it's usually $99 for a yearly upgrade and $149 if you skip a year.
 
I wish I had waited till now to get X3 Producer (the fifty shades of grey edition).

Well, X3 for $99 is a great deal, and it might be quite a long time until an X4 shows up - possibly October or much later.
 
X3d has been quite stable, and feature-rich, and several folks have already expressed joy with the X3e release we just got today.
 
Bob Bone
 

Paul P

Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk]
Instead of continually taking cheap shots at Cakewalk, why not work with us so we can look into what might be happening?

Thanks for your reply.  My cheap shots are reminders that your email sign up doesn't work, and you've admitted it needs looking into.  Sure I could have you sign me up manually, but that doesn't fix the problem for everyone else.
 
I've read many posts of others who can't sign up for email or the newsletters.  If a single person tells me they've successfully signed up and received something from Cakewalk in the last month, I'll shut up.
 
BTW, I own X2 Producer so I'm interested in hearing about offers to upgrade.  I only need bug fixes though, so I'm waiting for the cheap offer.  If I received emails, no one would have to listen to me.
 

It's definitely not perfect, but I find it odd that your reaction is based off the people who have problems and not the hundreds of thousands who don't. If that's your metric for determining it doesn't work then I'm not sure there is a single service out there that will meet perfection considering the last thing any company wants to do is get flagged as a spammer and then REALLY not be able to reach anyone. Anyhow, I know a number of people have had problems with it but it's definitely a vast minority. Saying it doesn't work just isn't an accurate statement.

I'm signed up to the Newsletter with countless personal accounts that I've used to test various web forms on the site I've created over the years. Nobody at Cakewalk knows these are my accounts and no trickery was done. I receive tons of Newsletters from Cakewalk. So if our dataset is just you and me, I'd argue it works and you'd argue it doesn't.

Anyhow, we can talk about it all day long but the only thing that will ever have direct results is to follow up with yourself and anyone else who runs into problems with the Newsletter. There's really no other way of dealing with the suppression list other then working it out together sometimes. I'm sorry it's frustrating. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of it.

There is definitely some issue with newsletters and certain email address or IP's getting blocked. I have control over my own mail servers because I don't trust yahoo/gmail or whatever to look after and filter out my communications. It just might be the third party mailout is not the greatest service. I've done bulk mails in the past for marketing departments (10's of thousands of emails) and I always did it from my own server (precautions can be made so your IP does not get blacklisted).
 
I hope one day it will be resolved, I also think having pull notifications as well (website) is the way to go as the SMTP simply sucks. I am getting newsletters fine nowadays.

Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk]

Paul P

Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk]
Instead of continually taking cheap shots at Cakewalk, why not work with us so we can look into what might be happening?

Thanks for your reply.  My cheap shots are reminders that your email sign up doesn't work, and you've admitted it needs looking into.  Sure I could have you sign me up manually, but that doesn't fix the problem for everyone else.
 
I've read many posts of others who can't sign up for email or the newsletters.  If a single person tells me they've successfully signed up and received something from Cakewalk in the last month, I'll shut up.
 
BTW, I own X2 Producer so I'm interested in hearing about offers to upgrade.  I only need bug fixes though, so I'm waiting for the cheap offer.  If I received emails, no one would have to listen to me.
 

It's definitely not perfect, but I find it odd that your reaction is based off the people who have problems and not the hundreds of thousands who don't. If that's your metric for determining it doesn't work then I'm not sure there is a single service out there that will meet perfection considering the last thing any company wants to do is get flagged as a spammer and then REALLY not be able to reach anyone. Anyhow, I know a number of people have had problems with it but it's definitely a vast minority. Saying it doesn't work just isn't an accurate statement.

Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk]
Instead of continually taking cheap shots at Cakewalk, why not work with us so we can look into what might be happening?

Thanks for your reply.  My cheap shots are reminders that your email sign up doesn't work, and you've admitted it needs looking into.  Sure I could have you sign me up manually, but that doesn't fix the problem for everyone else.
 
I've read many posts of others who can't sign up for email or the newsletters.  If a single person tells me they've successfully signed up and received something from Cakewalk in the last month, I'll shut up.
 
BTW, I own X2 Producer so I'm interested in hearing about offers to upgrade.  I only need bug fixes though, so I'm waiting for the cheap offer.  If I received emails, no one would have to listen to me.
 


It's definitely not perfect, but I find it odd that your reaction is based off the people who have problems and not the hundreds of thousands who don't. If that's your metric for determining it doesn't work then I'm not sure there is a single service out there that will meet perfection considering the last thing any company wants to do is get flagged as a spammer and then REALLY not be able to reach anyone. Anyhow, I know a number of people have had problems with it but it's definitely a vast minority. Saying it doesn't work just isn't an accurate statement.



Ryan, no hostility here at all but Paul is quite right to learn from others about this issue.  I've had the same email address with you guys since '96 and some years I get promos & newsletters and some years I don't.  I think my situation is straightened out, but I'm on this forum almost daily so I really don't remember the last time I've received something that wasn't purchase related.
 
Now I still have forum issues, sometimes I can highlight text and delete irrelevant parts of quotes and sometimes I just have to use the backspace key.  But do I want to help you guys figure out your email & forum issues?  Well, never.
 
I just want Sonar continually to work better and you guys are doing a much better job these days.

I'm thinking of upgrading. One question, the download is so big, exactly what do I download? Sonar 3X with e included in the download? Or do I have to download X3 and then have to download all updates? Thanks. 

+1, Mr scook is spot on.
 
I would imagine that at some point X3 with X3e applied will become what you download when purchasing X3, but it does not yet seem the case, and may not for some time.
 
Bob Bone
 

You may also want to contact Order support http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/contact/default.aspx about the current sale.

Thanks scook - I've now used that link to contact Cakewalk. If I don't hear back in a day or so I'll try calling them.
 
Alistair C.
 

For the sake of £20, why are you hesitating?

Thanks Jackie for posting the UK price - at £79 I'll happily upgrade if Cakewalk respond to my enquiry. I'm used to the interesting $->£ conversions but it's still a £40 saving on the usual price.
 
Alistair C.
 

Please continue to pass on any further information you hear on a possible $99 upgrade to X3 PE,  I'm currently using X2 PE, and I never received any email notice of less than the $149 cost, even though I know my email is registered with CW.   For a lot of us I think, it would make just enough difference in cost to take the plunge!      - John

Well, so far no reply from Calkwalk order support - I guess they are busy with the X3e release and the promotion, so I'll try to call them today. Then, if they can assist me with the promotion, I have the weekend to play with X3 !
 
Alistair C.
 

Thanks for the suggestion Bob, but I don't want to spam the forum with my doubtful wisdom just to get 25 posts
 
I'll call Cakewalk later when order support opens at 1pm EST - the magic of Skype for low cost international calls !
 
Alistair C.