Arturia V Collection - External Input Help

mikebeam
I just bought the Arturia V Collection and notice that it has the functionality of using some of the synths as an effect and you can run external inputs into it...
 
I have an audio track with a vocal part and would like to try this out, but I can't seem to figure out how to run the audio into the synth.  I've tried inserting an additional Midi Track and inserting it as an Effect in the FX Bin.  Other ideas? Any help would be appreciated?  
 
Thanks!

In my experience, Sonar does not provide for audio input to a VSTi.  Some VST's have a separate FX version that can be inserted as an audio effect with an audio input.  But the VST instruments that I have worked with in Sonar only allow for a MIDI input.
 
Does Arturia include an FX version of the plugin?  This would be the ideal solution.
 
I did find that Reaper is a bit more flexible about signal routing in this regard.  I have a VST instrument, TX16Wx, that can accept an audio input for sample recording, but so far I can only get this to work in Reaper.  TX16Wx does not come in an FX version, so that is apparently the difference regarding Sonar's routing.

Thanks for the responses...  Kav - I think I'm missing something here because I can't seem to get sound going through.  I'm using the Mini V (I haven't tackled learning the ARP yet) - Do you need to direct the signal in?  
 
I'm just learning how to use these synths so I have a feeling I'm missing something fundamental...

After Mini V3 is inserted as an audio FX, the track's audio is automatically directed to the plugin by SONAR. You just need to switch Mini V3's external input on. Here's a quick test I just did to verify:
 
1) Solo an existing audio track. Press play to confirm that you can hear the track. Keep the track playing.
2) Insert Mini V3 into the FX bin of the track. The track should go silent. Keep the track playing anyhow.
3) In the Mini's Mixer section, turn External Input Volume knob to Max and use the switch next to it to turn the external input on.
4) Turn off the other four switches (to get rid of the synth's default preset).
5) Press and hold a key on the Mini's virtual keyboard. Can you hear your audio track?
 
Again, I'm using the VST3 versions of the plugins. If you have installed the VST2 versions, they may behave differently.

http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013086/Using-Pentagon-I-as-a-Vocoder
other options mentioned in this thread http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3024127 and http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3513605
 

It is not part of the new SONAR. I thought you may have X3 or older available. If so, install it the older version of SONAR by running the advanced install option of the older version and select the synth from the advanced install checklist.

Sonivox Vocalizer pro is 90% off right now at Audio Deluxe for $19.99
https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/audio-plug-ins/sonivox-vocalizer-pro
 
I picked it up recently and tested it with Platinum.  It runs as a MIDI keyboard controlled audio effect, for vocoding, re-synthesis and signal processing. 
 
Check out this demo session with the Sonivox lead sound designer, to see if it's something you could use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utI8d1eFgmc

mikebeam
I think that's what I'm looking for...  With the Holiday Discount it's only $16...  Worth a try - thanks for the head's up.  I'll give it a shot later.

Just fyi, the Vocalizer VST needs to be inserted as an audio FX.  But it also needs a MIDI track to play the Vocalizer from a MIDI keyboard.
 
Vocalizer Pro is a MIDI triggered audio effect, which is inserted as an effect on an audio track.  So don't forget to set up another MIDI track to send MIDI controller data to the Vocalizer plugin.  Then open the VST plugin window and enable MIDI input (via the dropdown arrow for the VST2 options) so you can play the effect from your MIDI keyboard (this enables you to select Output = VocalizerPro in the MIDI track).
 
This short video goes over the signal routing in Sonar X3 as an example:
Tutorial here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I590YwC_bgA

Glyn Barnes
Don't overlook the the Arturia MiniFilter V which is going free at the moment http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3534006
 
This looks a pretty decent effect with options to modulate both cut-off and resonance from a LFO, Step-Sequencer and an Envelope follower. Not a vocoder but a very useful free-bee none the less.

Downloading now.  Thanks for the tip!
 
Looks like this would be a great companion FX to have on board.  Especially when you just need a filter.  The modular approach