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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/23 09:22:41 (permalink)
No it's not actually, but I don't mind who you think I am or what you call me, like water off a ducks back.
 
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 00:04:25 (permalink)
The $60 dollar DAW (with unending uncrippled trial) killed Sonar.
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 01:13:20 (permalink)
Our petition to Microsoft to rescue Cakewalk out of Gibson!
 
Cakewalk and later Sonar has been our favorite DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) for many years. It is the home we go to when being creative. From writing songs, record songs, mixing songs to master songs and albums. We deeply love Cakewalk and Sonar.
 
Gibson is now stopping developing and service of Cakewalk and Sonar. So they are basically giving it up.
 
Dear Microsoft.
 
Please rescue Cakewalk and Sonar out of Gibson. You can make Sonar a system like Office and Office 365. And Music Creator to an app in the store. And please make it under insider, so that we, the users can have a say in the development. You can rebrand it if you want, but please make it backward compatible with current Sonar, Music Creator and pluggin base.
 
https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/microsoft-please-rescue-cakewalk-and-sonar-out-of
 
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 01:32:33 (permalink)
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If Gibson goes belly up, who is going to enforce these rights? Or more importantly, who would care?



If Gibson goes through bankruptcy liquidation, then someone will probably buy up the patents and IP for Sonar and the rest of the Cakewalk products. Then they'll enforce their patents, even if they don't actually plan to make use of them in their own products. 
 
I could be wrong and someone nice buys the IP and plays nice by resuming development. But that seems unlikely once all the key developers have scattered to the corners of the development universe. Any bankruptcy liquidation isn't likely to happen for quite a while and all the developers still need to feed their families.
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 03:10:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Jarsve 2017/11/25 18:02:43
So if Gibson is going under or filing bankruptcy, the smart move is to keep the code until after the bankrupcy is complete  The re brand it.
Even if Gibson wanted to keep SPlat to market. the "lifetime updates" has to go!
So re branding is the solution!
 
Gibson could have sold the DAW and all other digits to another company that will release it as another DAW.
But in the position Gibson is in... they most likely would have kept it. 
 
It makes no scene to just let it die.  
 
On the 5th of oct. Right after Craig was let go, Gibson had a new ad up looking for a replacement.
along with a boat load of other jobs. They are selling their factory. yea, Nashville is booming development, the smart move was to sell and get a bit out of the city...
 
Edit. if you look at who is offering cross grades and who is not... you may find the answer to who may have the Splat code... PT?
 
So from this it is simple to see that Gibson is moving to cash in and retool... If CW is out then they sold the intellectual property. ie the digits "Code" without the CW brand. THE SMART MOVE.
 
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 07:03:21 (permalink)
^This is most likely what's going to happen.  They aren't going to get much for what's left of Cake, but they will have to pay off creditors, and they will use the sale of Cake IP in part to do that.

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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 07:21:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2017/12/29 00:34:20
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Well, I never said Gibson would do the cracking! ;)



Its not open source then, its piracy.



Not that I would, nor do I believe in piracy -- but can you pirate anything from a company that no loner exists?



You are joking right? So can you pirate Bpb Marley's music? Oh you should because he's dead?
Copyrights has nothing to do with the business shelf life. I started a business and copyright lots of stuff. The business is no longer here but the materials are legally copyrighted to me.

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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 15:01:30 (permalink)
You know what I'd do now if I was interested in buying Cake's technology?

Nothing.

Because whatever price I might get for it now I'm very likely to be able to get it for less in the possible, even likely, Gibson bankruptcy fire sale. Gibson guitars are likely to continue under a new ownership structure even if the current company is bankrupted. So are other bits of Gibson that make money or can be easily made to make money once detached from a parent company in severe financial and managerial difficulties.

Cakewalk, on the other hand, is unlikely to be worth more in six months than it is now and is probably going to be eventually sold at a rock-bottom price. The longer Sonar isn't available to buy the lower that price will be.

From a potential purchaser's point of view, unless they intend to keep Cake trading continuously waiting to see what happens might well be the wisest move.

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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 16:15:07 (permalink)
Piracy /pīrəsē/ noun- selling a lifetime subscription that doesn't even last a year.
 
 
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 16:52:06 (permalink)
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Cakewalk, on the other hand, is unlikely to be worth more in six months than it is now and is probably going to be eventually sold at a rock-bottom price. The longer Sonar isn't available to buy the lower that price will be.



They likely wouldn't even be buying the Cakewalk Source code. That would just come along as part of the patents and IP.  Sad to say, but I don't expect to see any real new code for Cakewalk SONAR. The only thing I hope for is the unlock key sent to each "owner" of a copy of SONAR. I think it is reasonable to expect that and nothing more.
 
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 17:58:28 (permalink)
If I had a choice for someone to buy Cakewalk it would be Sweetwater.

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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 21:09:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby DrLumen 2017/11/26 00:09:16
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Piracy /pīrəsē/ noun- selling a lifetime subscription that doesn't even last a year.
 
 


Just To clarify, Lifetime updates were introduced in June 1st 2016 thru Aug 31th, 2016.
Its November 2017. What users paid for Lifetime updates was less than what they would have paid for a 12 month subscription.
 

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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 21:43:51 (permalink)
Perhaps I am wrong, but I get this feeling that something like what happened to the Sony Acid series will end up happening to Cakewalk. By that I mean, after a while of sitting on the shelf without nothing happening, a company like, or very well may be "MAGIX" steps in and buys the technology and sells it as is. 
 
Which that wouldn't be necessarily a bad thing if that were to happen, for the simple fact you could still get your software activated since while they are saying "The servers will be around for a few years", but then again, they also said the people who purchased LIFETIME updates had some time also, and we all know how that worked out. 
 
I'm thinking Gibson will probably lease out the technology in bits and pieces in one manner or another.
 
We shall see..... 
 

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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/11/25 21:47:42 (permalink)
I wonder will we ever hear what happened to Cakewalk, Sonar etc and/or why?
 
I suspect we will not.
 
At some point next few weeks or next week once this black friday / thanksgiving thing is over Cake customers might get an email which wont say much that has not been said already, then a farewell with unlock codes for when server dies.
 
I have a gut feeling all this will get wrapped up very soon inc these forums. Seems to be the way this whole thing has been rolling.
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/12/28 20:49:03 (permalink)
As a 12-year Cakewalk user I'm sitting here with "numerous" .cwp files - it'd shore be nice to have a conversion program over to  . . . . .     I think CW should be appreciated for its evolution to simplicity - most notably in keeping with simple piano-roll midi grids as a software success, unlike MOTU's numerous, current midi hardware "interfaces", clouding the picture as midi being primarily a software success. It took ProTools 7 versions to even incorporate a piano roll midi grid into things!! Digital Orchestrator had it right, and Cakewalk got their programmers. If Microsoft ever really gets CW code, I can only hope they include .cwp as input files. But that's not at all timely, so I'll very likely go with Studio One. Sweetwater's Google-able "Alternatives to Cakewalk" is considerate and primarily pushes PreSonus Studio One and Abeldon. One mistake CW made was not getting intimately associated with a preamp. PreSonus can now kick their butts because they can package Studio One with their 1818VSL and 44VSL preamps. Focusrite has nothing near Studio One as a DAW.
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/12/28 23:15:12 (permalink)
I have been using cakewalk for decades, since pro audio 9. This is what gets me upsets about the software industry. It is like a double edge sword. On one hand you have people that pirate software, and then on the other hand you have people that spend their hard earned money purchasing software. When a company sells software software it is like they just toss customers aside like a sack of potatoes. I am not talking about the employees I am %100 sure a great deal of them cared about the work they have done. It is not like sonar is a useless software in fact other than pro tools it is a top contender in the daw world. The only reason Gibson it still providing access to the site for downloads and activation is because they probably would get sued. They gave no email notification to customers especially those that purchased lifetime updates. I would have not purchase it if I would have known in a years time they were going to scrap it. What do customers get for lifetime updates. Nothing except access to softwarw they legally and legitimately purchased. They should at least compensated customers with downloads of all their plugins and addons for Sonar. I am just hoping they give us some way of activating sonar even after they shut site down for good. Or remove activation thanks for listening
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/12/28 23:54:25 (permalink)
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On one hand you have people that pirate software, and then on the other hand you have people that spend their hard earned money purchasing software.



Can we assume that you are not one who would complain about companies requiring hardware licensing dongles?  One really can't have it both ways, it seems.

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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/12/29 00:06:31 (permalink)
This arguments is silly since piracy is already an option for the unscrupulous. I doubt a sudden surge in interest in sonar to kickstart a piracy campaign among users who don't already own
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/12/29 00:15:47 (permalink)
Apparently you misunderstood the point, as far as a dongle goes I would not mind it, aftet all you paid for it as long as it works and you are able to get the lifetime updates that you paid for. Most people who buy sonar and lifetime updates would assume it would last more than a year especially since the softwarw has been around for decades in cakewalk pro audio. Not everyone pirates software however when a company offers a product for sale and offer services then it should be understood that it is going be around more than a year after purchase. Which is the point I was trying to get across as to howbin the software industry companies seem to care less and less about consumers than they do their bottom line. Would I purchase sonar today for 500 dollars for a year of updates absolutely not. For 100 bucks probably.
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/12/29 00:29:06 (permalink)
Cakewalk is dead yet Kanye is still alive... Go figure!

 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: Nobody is buying Cakewalk 2017/12/29 00:53:30 (permalink)
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Most people who buy sonar and lifetime updates would assume it would last more than a year especially since the software has been around for decades in cakewalk pro audio.



I bought it.  But I also recognized it was a very clear signal that either the whole thing would shut down or else they would end the "SONAR" brand and launch a new "DAW II" that would require a new purchase.  I figured the "lifetime" would be about 2 years.  But when I heard of the support services being cut back deeply, the picture became rather clear.  Caveat emptor.

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