A solution to endless whining and debates without ever seeing the bright side and agreeing upon a solution would be nice.
 
Negative energy produces negative results. Wasting time and worrying about the fate of Gibson is pointless and no reason to scrap SONAR and move on to another DAW. Unless of course your point is to poison the fate of SONAR.
 
Positive energy produces positive results, and that's what successful collaboration is made of.
 
 And isn't that what Bandlab is really all about? 

tlw
This information has been posted before on this forum, but some people appear to have missed it.

The situation when Roland sold Cakewalk to Gibson (and for not very much money) is outined in the document that confirms the letter of intent to transfer ownership - it’s what the two parties to the sale agreed the situation was.

The document is here - https://www.roland.com/Ro.../pdf/2013/20130924.pdf

It shows that Cakewalk’s operating income was minus $167,000 in 2010 minus $301,000 in 2011 and minus $851,000 in 2012. That’s increasing losses in each of the three years prior to the sale. Net income was lower than that in all three years.

I don't know where you're getting your dollar figures from because this document clearly states they DO NOT disclose dollar amount per share.
 
Now I'm no expert financial analysis..
 But the 'BOTTOM LINE" clearly shows a steady, however small increase in net profits per year, while the number of units sold decreased from 10,307 in 2010 to 6069 in 2012.
 Clearly poor metrics Wall St. Banksters don't want to see or invest in.
 
However..
In 2010 Net INCOME was .06 per dollar. Six cents per dollar.
In 2011 Net INCOME rose to .14 per dollar. Fourteen cents per dollar, and more than doubled.
In 2012 Net INCOME rose to .29 per dollar. Twenty nine cents per dollar, and again, more than doubled.
 
 Clearly not windfall profits typically expected by the stock exchange money changers. ( Ya know the type that would rush to invest in a Taylor Swift type and shun and ignore any new upstart talent.)
 
 But even with a downward projectory in a very saturated DAW market with such an unpredictable and fickle fan base.
 Cakewalk has not only managed to sustain itself, but modestly profited.
 
 So only time will tell if Bandlab can come up with a solution to make Cakewalk's profit margin rise in an upward projectory.. 
 It's certainly possible considering SONAR doesn't actually need any further immediate developments, considering it's probably still by far the most technologically advanced feature rich DAW made, and fully customizable to personal workflows.
 Even really excellent super star DAW's like Presonus's Studio ONE 3.5 are closing in, but still not as feature rich.
 
Cakewalk can in fact still rise to the top and be taken seriously and survive through the increase of massive promotional hype "Marketing" Tsunami of DAW competition.
It's not like it hasn't happened before.

cparmerlee

Steev
I don't know where you're getting your dollar figures from because this document clearly states they DO NOT disclose dollar amount per share.

See the line items on page 2 labeled "Net Income."  That is aggregate, not per-share.  That shows losses of $206,000, $426,000, and $891,000 for 2010, 2011, and 2012 respectively.


Numbers in parentheses are losses, not profits.
 
These are big losses for such a small company.  It is completely implausible that the results improved under Gibson because competition INCREASED since the Roland days and Cakewalk didn't add any significant new revenue streams.  Also note that these results included TEAC, so that muddies the water a little.

WHAT THE FAQ IS WRONG WITH YOU MAN?? I mean,,,,,,,,, who gives a FAQ??
 
I'm here to help anyone that I can to understand how to record music and sequence MIDI with Cakewalk software and that's about as far as it goes. I have no taste for your politics Conman 
 You seem to be one of the money changer soul sucking **** one pre center demons. FAQ U and the politically correct make believe unicorn you  road in on.
 

Steev

cparmerlee

Steev
I don't know where you're getting your dollar figures from because this document clearly states they DO NOT disclose dollar amount per share.

See the line items on page 2 labeled "Net Income."  That is aggregate, not per-share.  That shows losses of $206,000, $426,000, and $891,000 for 2010, 2011, and 2012 respectively.


Numbers in parentheses are losses, not profits.
 
These are big losses for such a small company.  It is completely implausible that the results improved under Gibson because competition INCREASED since the Roland days and Cakewalk didn't add any significant new revenue streams.  Also note that these results included TEAC, so that muddies the water a little.

WHAT THE FAQ IS WRONG WITH YOU MAN?? I mean,,,,,,,,, who gives a FAQ??
 
I'm here to help anyone that I can to understand how to record music and sequence MIDI with Cakewalk software and that's about as far as it goes. I have no taste for your politics Conman 
 You seem to be one of the money changer soul sucking **** one pre center demons. FAQ U and the politically correct make believe unicorn you  road in on.
 

Steev . . . come on, park your passion, for a little common sense . . . "FAQ U" is hardly an acceptable response to the logic offered in this thread by others.