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Re: Apart from you and me: Does the industry take CBB seriously and have they moved on
2018/08/04 19:19:35
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kitekrazy1
When something like this comes out it creates DIS (Daw Insecurity Syndrome). Some get really butthurt because their DAW is not mentioned. One again we see some users who want to change the name of Cakewalk. It's worse on the Image Line forum. (one of those DAWs that have never been bought out). Most of its users aren't going to fork out $3K for a Montage. Some of the reviews I've read for the Montage refer to using it for live performance instead of hooking it up to a DAW. Maybe this is Yamaha's attempt to sell more licenses of Cubase. Consider that Cubase is losing some ground to other DAWs with better upgrade/update policies.
There's plenty of people out there being successful with "inferior" DAWs and don't let something like this bother them.
Your post makes absolutely no sense.
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Re: Apart from you and me: Does the industry take CBB seriously and have they moved on
2018/08/04 20:13:23
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☄ Helpfulby a13xhp 2018/08/05 23:27:18
This thread has meandered so much I had to go back to the OP to re-read it, and think the answer really lies with the question (and much of the below has already been hinted at if not stated outright). DAWs do not rake in funding; however, when linked, integrated, and deployed with hardware, they get more exposure. The ones who are integrated with hardware parents can flaunt that, and do.
Gibson came in all excited to integrate Tascam and Cakewalk, but that didn't come to pass. The effort was even less involved than what Roland had tried, but what they did achieve is totally destroying the brand with their stunt last November. Pretty much everyone knows this that I have spoken with, only about half know Bandlab picked Cakewalk up. That is a terrible obstacle to reputation, and one that may persist to some level in the future. That "black eye" is heavily present now, since "SONAR" is still recognized, but "CbB" is unknown to many. Having a hardware vendor say "Oh, we will jump right on that!" is a stretch.
Monthly updates I actually find distracting and do not enjoy spending time on (I could write a dissertation on that statement alone, but will leave it at that). For hardware vendors to keep updated on "moving targets" is another tough pill to swallow, especially if they are constantly updating something they do not really use. You really only need to say "But wait, did you test on [most current version]?" to get someone to think "And we are doing this favor for you for... ??"
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Re: Apart from you and me: Does the industry take CBB seriously and have they moved on
2018/08/05 01:15:05
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For those who think "Cakewalk" sounds childish, I'd like yo say that I come from the days of Cakewalk Pro Audio, I love that name, and felt very dissapointed when the name changed to SONAR circa 2001. Do you know what a sonar is? It is a kind of radar which works underwater by sound waves instead electromagnetic signals. It has nothing to do with music or sound recording. To my ears, "SONAR" is quite a stupid and meaningless name for a DAW. So, to conclude, everyone love the name with which he or she met this wonderful software. Cakewalk has technically nothing to envy to Pro Tools. I had to use Pro Tools 4 years ago when I recorded a musician in his home with his equipment. The best Pro Tools did over the rest is just marketing. I'm not saying they are similar, both have different strenghts and weaknesses. My only worry is whether BandLab will relaunch or not those great mastering plugins such as L-Phase EQ, L-Phase Multiband and Adaptive Limiter, as well as Dimensión, Rapture and Z3TA+ sinths. **** the rest.
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Re: Apart from you and me: Does the industry take CBB seriously and have they moved on
2018/08/05 03:31:49
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MarianoGF
My only worry is whether BandLab will relaunch or not those great mastering plugins such as L-Phase EQ, L-Phase Multiband and Adaptive Limiter, as well as Dimensión, Rapture and Z3TA+ sinths. **** the rest.
This. No worries, I'm sure BandLab owns the right to license them and I'm looking forward to being able to obtain them. My guess is it's waiting on setting up a way to pay for them on the new website, a way to download and register them with BandLab Assistant, and some art changes to brand them as BandLab/Cakewalk products. Or, who knows, maybe they will give them away with a button on them that if you click it will take you to the BandLab site. Or maybe they'll harvest your Safeway Rewards Club number and rifle your AOL address book. ;-)
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Re: Apart from you and me: Does the industry take CBB seriously and have they moved on
2018/08/05 08:30:26
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Euthymia
MarianoGF
My only worry is whether BandLab will relaunch or not those great mastering plugins such as L-Phase EQ, L-Phase Multiband and Adaptive Limiter, as well as Dimensión, Rapture and Z3TA+ sinths. **** the rest.
This.
No worries, I'm sure BandLab owns the right to license them and I'm looking forward to being able to obtain them.
My guess is it's waiting on setting up a way to pay for them on the new website, a way to download and register them with BandLab Assistant, and some art changes to brand them as BandLab/Cakewalk products.
Or, who knows, maybe they will give them away with a button on them that if you click it will take you to the BandLab site.
Or maybe they'll harvest your Safeway Rewards Club number and rifle your AOL address book. ;-)
who knows, six months in but only the "tip jar" so far? can't be a big priority
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Re: Apart from you and me: Does the industry take CBB seriously and have they moved on
2018/08/05 13:18:24
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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The current Tape Op magazine (Aug/Sept 2018) has a positive review of CBB by Alan Tubbs.
Thanks - Here is a link to the review.
"With tens of thousands of users, many willing to pony up a hundred dollars plus every year for updates..." Interesting. I wonder whre they got that figure from?
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AT
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Re: Apart from you and me: Does the industry take CBB seriously and have they moved on
2018/08/05 17:28:04
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There were at least 10,000 users registered on this forum (they used to have the stat of how many users out of the total were online). And the bakers mentioned more than once that such was a fraction of total users. Plus there must have been tens of thousands of Cake units sold w/ Roland and Tascam/Gibson hardware, not to mention Frys and Bestbuy. Before you had to get online to get your Cakewalk, many users never showed up here. You'd read a new member talking about using Cake products for years, but "this is my first post …"
Didn't Cake have revenue of about $10 million dollars its last year? Even at $500 a pop for Sonar Pro, that is 20,000 users right there. Could be less than 10M, since failing companies tend to monkey around with revenue streams. But then, just how many copies of the various Cake programs do you imagine were sold during the last 30 years, including the light programs? They are users, too.
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Re: Apart from you and me: Does the industry take CBB seriously and have they moved on
2018/08/05 17:34:30
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☄ Helpfulby AT 2018/08/05 19:32:48
AT
There were at least 10,000 users registered on this forum (they used to have the stat of how many users out of the total were online)
Most of those were probably Bapu's alter egos though. ;)
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