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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/06/15 23:29:43 (permalink)
I'll address some of this after work tomorrow because it's late, but I can assue you that you'll get paid your digital sales along with regular CD sales at the same time from CDBaby, and the payout is dependant upon whatever dollar ammount YOU set, with a minimum of only $10. I have mine set for $20, so whenever I get a total of CD sales and digital download sales that come to a total of $20 COMBINED, they cut me a check and send it out ASAP. I also noticed this at TuneCore's site:

Say you've got a five-song Album you want for sale in the iTunes U.S., Japan and iTunes Canada stores as well as on the Rhapsody service. The costs would be:

iTunes U.S. store $0.99
iTunes Canada store $0.99
iTunes Japan store $0.99
Rhapsody service $0.99
Five songs at $0.99 each $4.95
First year's maintenance $9.98

GRAND TOTAL $18.89


Not exactly cost efficient....
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/06/16 00:15:22 (permalink)
Here's a quickie from CDBaby's site about Digital Distribution:

The Deal

Think of it like traditional physical distribution:
You are the label. (You own the music and all rights.)
The retail store is now Apple iTunes, Rhapsody, Yahoo, ringtone companies, etc.
CD Baby is just the distributor that gets your music to the retailer.
They pay us. We pay you.
We do not take any rights to your music. This is not a record deal.
You are just "lending" us the right to be your digital distributor, for the albums you tell us distribute, for as long as you want.
You can cancel at any time. We will never tie up your rights or make it hard for you to leave.

PLEASE NOTE: you cannot change ANYTHING about your album once it's been sent out for digital distribution, and we cannot accept partial albums

The Money

NO startup cost. This is a free service for CD Baby members.
We keep only 9% and pay you 91% of all income from your music.
You always get paid the week after we do.

It's NON-Exclusive, but...
Just like in the physical world, there can't be more than one distributor bringing the same album to the same store. Otherwise, when the album sells, how would the store know which distributor to pay?
We will never prevent you from doing anything you want with your music.
For YOUR sake, please note : If you sign two digital distribution deals with two companies that will both be sending the same album to iTunes, Rhapsody, Yahoo, Napster, etc - this will hurt you, because the retailer will usually remove the album completely until you decide which distributor has the exclusive right to be selling that album through them.

Legal Permission

To give us legal permission to distribute your music, you must own or control the copyright for the sound recordings and musical compositions.
If you didn't write the music yourself, that's OK, but you must get permission, and pay the publishers their mechanical royalties.

How long does it take for you to send it to all the companies?

2-5 weeks, once you've given us ALL the info we need, and we've received your CD. We have to encode it into 17 different formats for 40 different companies, so that's why it takes a while. Plus we have to verify all your songwriter and publisher info is correct before we send it out into the world.

How long does it take to show up on the music services once you deliver it?

Each company is different, but in general it takes from 3 weeks minimum, to 4 months maximum. (Usually 2-3 months.) Once we send it to them, it's out of our hands and they do what they can to get it imported and active in their service. We push them to get it added as soon as possible, and they always do it as soon as they can.

How much do I get paid?

Every company is different, but the average is 60 cents per song downloaded, $6.50 per full-album download, and 1 cent per listen or stream (when people listen to your song as if on a radio station, but don't download or buy it). Remember we only keep a 9% cut of the total income, and pay you 91%.

My friend downloaded my song yesterday - when do I see that in my report - and get paid?

Most companies only report to us every 1 - 3 months. Apple, for example, sends us the monthly report about 4-6 weeks after the month is finished. Meaning: you won't see your January sales until the first week of March. Some companies report a full 3 months after the quarter is done. But we ALWAYS show you everything we get as soon as we get it, and add the money to your account immediately.
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/06/29 16:12:31 (permalink)
Discmakers or purchase your own duplicator.

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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/07/07 12:47:16 (permalink)
I’m getting close.

Now my question is: how to price these buggers? I have received advice from a friend, who says “Don’t sell yourself short! Charge $15!” But I see professional CD’s routinely selling for $10. I plan to give a fair number away to friends and family, but what do I charge for the rest? And what price do I set on CD Baby? (I.e. perhaps it should be $10 if they buy from me but $15 if it’s bought from CD Baby?).

Thanks in advance,

Sam
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/07/07 16:28:38 (permalink)
I've spent the last little bit trying to figure out how to make the people at diskmakers happy as far as sending them "templates" so they can print my disk covers. They don't make it easy; it appears you need professional quality software to do this. This alone may make me choose someone else.

Sam
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/07/10 23:56:02 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Maxprizm

I checked out your tunes and they are simply great. Very relaxing, great musicianship.

Yes Sam... Gorgeous stuff! What piano are you playing?

Have a look here for some pretty reasonably priced short runs:

DiskFaktory 100 CDR Short Runs

You can upload artwork and even upload the audio files if don't need control over crossfading. 10 day turn-around.

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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/07/11 08:24:06 (permalink)
Sam,

I don't remember off hand what I priced my CD at for CDBaby, but they sell it for just under $13 at thier site, and Amazon sells it for about $13.50. Each retailer can decide how much to sell for. What you're doing is deciding how much you want to make off each one. You can also set a different price for wholesellers. People like to be able to (and expect to) buy things a little cheaper online, but I wouldn't go too cheap or they'll think what you have must not be very good if you have to almost give it away.

As to Disc Makers, I imagine yoou could just send them something as a typical image file as long as you follow their size and quality guidelines, like a 150-dpi bmp etc.
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/07/11 12:40:40 (permalink)

Yes Sam... Gorgeous stuff! What piano are you playing?


Art Vista's VGP. Out of the box, no effects necessary. I love this piano and keep trying to tell people about it. I think people ignore it because it's too cheap ($120 or so).

Thanks for the compliment,

Sam
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/07/11 20:15:30 (permalink)
there's a sale at officemax.. 100 cd-r memorex for $14.99. should I get them? it's dirt cheap. I plan to put labels on them, will it work?

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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/07/11 20:40:12 (permalink)
As long as your burner has no trouble with that brand. Burners tend to be finicky and like certain brands better than others. Maxell works great with most burners, but I haven't had any problems with Memorex the few times I've used them.
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/09/11 22:35:51 (permalink)
Hello All,

(Have I said this before?) I’m getting close!

I was going to do just a thinline CD case with printing on the front and inside of the front, using Diskmakers. But what do you do about a barcode in that instance? Do you have to do a regular CD case in order to use a barcode? (ie the thicker ones?) I suppose so, unless you put the barcode on the front cover?

Please advise, I really like the thin cases but don't like the idea of a barcode on the front. What do you all prefer and why?

Thanks,

Sam
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/11/14 21:40:07 (permalink)


What do you do when you get to this point and realize that it’s approximately $900 for 300 CD’s, $1000 for 500, and $1100 for 1000?

That’s what’s happening to me with Discmakers, and I suspect it will be that way with all of them (unless I want to go with one color on the CD, black and white on the cover, etc).

I guess what they're basically doing is forcing me to buy 1000 and I'll end up giving a LOT away.... or being HIGHLY motivated to sell them. Perhaps I'll have a concert after all (I wasn't going to since it costs $300 to rent out the theater in town but maybe I will now that I have so many discs to get rid of!).

I assume you all are happy with the quality you're getting from Discmakers?

Sam
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/11/15 01:58:06 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: samhoff
What do you do when you get to this point and realize that it’s approximately $900 for 300 CD’s, $1000 for 500, and $1100 for 1000?

have you checked out kunaki.com? they are less than $2 each regardless how many you get. you can get a barcode as well. i've been pleased with the service and the product.
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/11/15 09:28:27 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: samhoff
What do you do when you get to this point and realize that it’s approximately $900 for 300 CD’s, $1000 for 500, and $1100 for 1000?

That’s what’s happening to me with Discmakers, and I suspect it will be that way with all of them (unless I want to go with one color on the CD, black and white on the cover, etc).

I guess what they're basically doing is forcing me to buy 1000 and I'll end up giving a LOT away.... or being HIGHLY motivated to sell them. Perhaps I'll have a concert after all (I wasn't going to since it costs $300 to rent out the theater in town but maybe I will now that I have so many discs to get rid of!).

I can't remember the last time I suggesed someone buy less than 1000 cd's. It's just not cost effective, in my eyes. If you're just putting out a quick demo for friends or booking purposes, burn them yourself. If you want to sell CD's, bit the bullet and buy a thousand. Sell them for $10, and you only need to sell 100 cd's to cover most of your cost. Sell them for $5, and you only need to sell 200. If you're thinking about pressing 300, with 100 dedicated to bookings and promo, with 200 available to sell, you're in good shape, and end up with plenty to give away after you've recouped your costs.

I assume you all are happy with the quality you're getting from Discmakers?

Sam

I've never heard anything bad about Discmakers. They seem to do nice work.

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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/11/15 11:10:03 (permalink)
Just checked out Kunaki, and it looks great. Is it cheesy looking at all? I assume it is as high quality as diskmakers?

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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/11/15 12:10:05 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: samhoff

Just checked out Kunaki, and it looks great. Is it cheesy looking at all? I assume it is as high quality as diskmakers?

Sam


Kunaki has equal to or better than print quality compared to diskmakers. I use them extensively for many projects.
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/11/15 16:28:36 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: sdsicee
Kunaki has equal to or better than print quality compared to diskmakers. I use them extensively for many projects.

But, you ARE receiving a CDR, correct? Not a pressed CD? I still see people running into issues with CDR's in car stereos and older CD players...

Thanks for the clarification, sdsicee!

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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/11/15 17:49:49 (permalink)

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ORIGINAL: sdsicee
Kunaki has equal to or better than print quality compared to diskmakers. I use them extensively for many projects.

But, you ARE receiving a CDR, correct? Not a pressed CD? I still see people running into issues with CDR's in car stereos and older CD players...

Thanks for the clarification, sdsicee!

Corey


You are correct. They are CDRs. I don't know of any company that can match their price for short orders combined with the retail quality printing.
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/11/15 19:00:35 (permalink)
Does it matter if it's a CDR vs. Pressed? I assume the latter is much higher quality, scratches less easily, etc, but I've been giving out CDR's for a while now with only one complaint (from an older lady whose CD player wouldn't work).

Comments?

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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/11/15 19:15:22 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: samhoff

Does it matter if it's a CDR vs. Pressed? I assume the latter is much higher quality, scratches less easily, etc, but I've been giving out CDR's for a while now with only one complaint (from an older lady whose CD player wouldn't work).

Comments?

Sam


In the days of downloading music and putting them on CDRs...it really shouldn't be much of an issue.
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/11/15 19:39:20 (permalink)
I've had one bad CDR from about 200 I had done at Kunaki. Print quality is great. Haven't seen a Discmakers to compare. You won't have as many packaging options at Kunaki. Standard CD cases. You can upload your own designs and preview it. They'll also send you one free CD to check or compare the quality.
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RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2007/12/05 17:56:27 (permalink)
Update: I used Kunaki and it was very easy and the artwork etc. looks great. You can order however you want on demand; I had a guy who wanted 10 and just had them drop shipped to him (ie I ordered them and gave them his mailing address and he's paying me). Cost is $1.60 per CD, but shipping is about equal that, so I'm just mentally planning on $3 per CD for cost. But, hey, I can buy 100 at a time for $300 and if I sell them really well perhaps then I'll press some.

Very happy with their service.

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Re: RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2013/08/30 11:45:08 (permalink)
A couple of things.
 
CD baby will get you set up - you'll have web site and they will handle the orders and shipping from it.  Just don't expect to burn down the house.  My wife's band has sold a couple that way.  And most people will buy downloads.
 
A local rep house or even a lot of studios are set up to do short run stuff.  Price the online sites and take it to your local studio head.  You may make a new friend, business or not.  Not sure what is availible in Shreridan, but I would take a look.
 
Get one of those id number stamps.  A studio or rep house or CDbaby can get you one.  It ids the CD, puts it on the map, so to speak.  Most stores (your local music) won't take it w/o one.
 
If you have the time and want to save a little money doing your own pressings can work.  I've got an epson Artisan that prints CDs and it does a fine job.  It does take a while, tho.  And for 100, as said above, it could take all day.  You don't have to watch the ink dry, but you do have to be around to move them in and out (just like burning the CDs themselves).  The paper inserts are even worse - it probably pays to get a printer to do what you want.  For handouts I ususally just use prefabed CD stomper inserts (since I had a bunch left over).  Trimming is a ****.  And ink for the epson is close to $100.  I've probably done 100 copies before a refill.  So it adds up, in money and time.
 
A short run from a rep house, etc. will leave you fresh to get rid of the suckers.
 
If you do live shows it probably is worthwhile to get a bunch.  But a 1000 copies, even after you've sent one to all your old girlfriends, will last a long time.  With the stamp id you can send off a 100-500 to college radio stations around the country, as well as record companies etc.  Probably as useful as sending to old girlfriends, but shipping a cd is is only $1.14 the last time I did it.  One never knows.
 
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Re: RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2013/08/30 11:49:19 (permalink)
Interesting info on the thread brought back from the grave (2007) by spam
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Re: RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2013/08/30 22:48:24 (permalink)
At least it wasn't nikes.
 

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Re: RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2014/07/29 23:45:18 (permalink)
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Hello All,

(Have I said this before?) I’m getting close!

I was going to do just a thinline CD case with printing on the front and inside of the front, using Diskmakers. But what do you do about a barcode in that instance? Do you have to do a regular CD case in order to use a barcode? (ie the thicker ones?) I suppose so, unless you put the barcode on the front cover?

Please advise, I really like the thin cases but don't like the idea of a barcode on the front. What do you all prefer and why?

Thanks,

Sam

how about put it into the back of the CD or other sides. you can even create bar barcode software to  or yourself.  or that's what  i will do anyway.
 
 
 
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Re: RE: How would you make 200-500 copies of your CD 2014/07/30 14:05:43 (permalink)
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Hello All,

(Have I said this before?) I’m getting close!

I was going to do just a thinline CD case with printing on the front and inside of the front, using Diskmakers. But what do you do about a barcode in that instance? Do you have to do a regular CD case in order to use a barcode? (ie the thicker ones?) I suppose so, unless you put the barcode on the front cover?

Please advise, I really like the thin cases but don't like the idea of a barcode on the front. What do you all prefer and why?

Thanks,

Sam

how about put it into the back of the CD or other sides. you can even create bar barcode software to  or yourself.  or that's what  i will do anyway.
 
 
 


 
You know you're replying to a 7 year old, albeit once exhumed, thread, right?

 
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