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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/04 05:29:37 (permalink)
So have you guys noticed W7 64bit took a long time to install? I'm finding it REAL slow and will wander back to the DAW for another look in a minute but it is definitely taking a LONG time. I've installed every other version of Windoze prior to this and W7 is taking THE longest.

Mobo is the ASUS P5Q Pro and W7 is OEM. Everything else normal except I've removed any card excepting video card to try and speed things up... got songs to finish. I chose the W7 format option at install and all looks fine... just sloooooooooow.

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/04 08:25:17 (permalink)
Hmmm.  That is odd Mully.  It was by far the quickest install I had of a Windows OS.  I do know that it takes a bit of time while it detects all of the hardware install on the machine, but once that was done it was up and running in no time for me.  I'd say from start of install to first login was no more than an hour on my two machines I installed it on.

NOTE: I installed Win 7 Pro on the same motherboard you have (not my DAW machine, but my family PC).

What hardware do you have in that PC?

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/04 12:26:36 (permalink)
Interesting.
I have an Asus P5Q-SE2 board with an Intel 9400 4g ram and Windows 7 64 took about 30 minutes to install.
Boot drive is a Western Digital 7200rpm 16m cache and Audio drives are 2 Seagate 1tb drives with 32m cache.

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/04 12:46:54 (permalink)
tyacko,

This matches my experience as well.  I installed versions of home premium, pro and ultimate on 5 different machines the week Win 7 came out and all were *quick* in my estimation compared to othere windows versions.  All less than 30 minutes(give or take a few) IIRC.

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/04 13:56:29 (permalink)
Same thing here, mine took somewhere between 15 to 20 minutes.  It was real fast!

I had to install it 3 times while I was figuring out the System Reserve partition deal though :-(



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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/04 17:11:42 (permalink)
Hey thanks for the feedback everyone.

I'm sure it's a BIOS related issue now. Current situation is that it will boot and then go to a black screen with the arrow cursor only. Just sits there with very minimal HDD activity doing nothing.

I've tried a LOT of BIOS settings and am thinking now it may not like the version which is the latest 2102(?)... after having tried various drives, RAM and other configs to try and get it up. Default BIOS setting also equals no joy.

Tough nut to crack this time strangely... might buy a new drive today and see if any joy but am sure that's not the issue. From the W7 repair option from the disc, RAM check is fine and it finds no other issue. Just tells me to unplug any cameras etc that may have been plugged in. Reports that W7 is ok... has to be some weird hardware/mobo/bios issue somehow.

The challenge (aka "waste of time") continues.

Thanks again for the input everyone.

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/04 20:00:36 (permalink)
Mully


Hey thanks for the feedback everyone.

I'm sure it's a BIOS related issue now. Current situation is that it will boot and then go to a black screen with the arrow cursor only. Just sits there with very minimal HDD activity doing nothing.

I've tried a LOT of BIOS settings and am thinking now it may not like the version which is the latest 2102(?)... after having tried various drives, RAM and other configs to try and get it up. Default BIOS setting also equals no joy.

Tough nut to crack this time strangely... might buy a new drive today and see if any joy but am sure that's not the issue. From the W7 repair option from the disc, RAM check is fine and it finds no other issue. Just tells me to unplug any cameras etc that may have been plugged in. Reports that W7 is ok... has to be some weird hardware/mobo/bios issue somehow.

The challenge (aka "waste of time") continues.

Thanks again for the input everyone.


Mully, my Win 7 install went just like yours seems to be going. Make sure that you have no USB drives, keyboards or mice on the machine. I was only able to get Win 7 to install by removing all. I suppose it could be a mobo related issue but it was slower than dirt. It took ~1.5 hours to install. On the upside, the machine seems stable at this point.

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/04 20:19:05 (permalink)
BF thanks for that. I've seen some other similar dramas from Google results so it's good to know in here that someone else has had grief (if that's ever a good thing...??)

Crossed my mind to grab a SATA DVD drive too to eliminate the ASUS Marvell IDE as well.

Will try unplugging the mouse & kb, thanks for the suggestion. Apart from memory (tried from 1g5 up to 4g variations), one SATA HDD, one video card and the IDE DVD drive, there is nothing else plugged in the excepting mouse/kb.

Wish I was looking forward to trying it install again tonight instead of using the new valve mic.

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/04 20:28:02 (permalink)
Mully


BF thanks for that. I've seen some other similar dramas from Google results so it's good to know in here that someone else has had grief (if that's ever a good thing...??)

Crossed my mind to grab a SATA DVD drive too to eliminate the ASUS Marvell IDE as well.

Will try unplugging the mouse & kb, thanks for the suggestion. Apart from memory (tried from 1g5 up to 4g variations), one SATA HDD, one video card and the IDE DVD drive, there is nothing else plugged in the excepting mouse/kb.

Wish I was looking forward to trying it install again tonight instead of using the new valve mic.
I hear ya! Just to be clear, only unplug the mouse & keyboard if they are USB !)



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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/04 21:09:42 (permalink)
Hmmm, I don't think the problem is with the mouse and keyboard to be honest.  There's gotta be something else going on.

Plus, how do you plan on inputting the required data when needed?

I installed Windows 7 using both a mouse and keyboard that are hooked up to a KVM switch.  If that didn't cause problems, much less if they're connected directly to the PC.

Like I said, something else is going on.  Just my 2 cents :-)



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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/05 06:11:00 (permalink)
Yep... something weird happening. About to go try a SATA DVD and see how we go with the kill USB option. Will try PS2 inputterinerers to do the obligatory 'NEXT' etc.

Fingers crossed.... too weird this one.

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/05 06:31:15 (permalink)
To Wood67, if you drag a folder to the "Start" menu icon at lower right of screen and hold it for a second or two, the Menu will open and you can Pin the folder where you want. Hope that helps.

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/05 06:56:48 (permalink)
To Wood67, if you drag a folder to the "Start" menu icon at lower right of screen and hold it for a second or two, the Menu will open and you can Pin the folder where you want. Hope that helps.


Oops! Brain fart! That would be Lower Left of screen, of course. Sorry.

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/05 09:14:48 (permalink)
What's the trick to installing Sonar 64 bit on Win 7?  I keep getting the popup "be sure you have local administrator rights" no matter what I try, even using the "run as administrator" option to try the install.
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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/05 09:25:13 (permalink)
Ok, quick update from my new spanking W7 64 bit install.... it works!!

The fix was as basic as swapping the video card to another slot! Cannot believe I hadn't tried it yet but there ya go... we're alive and looking VERY forward to getting back to music.

Now to stay on topic... W7 looks really good so far and seems to belt along quite nicely. Actually quite impressed but we'll see how things pan out (pun?) with Sonar installed.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and I hope my mini saga might help someone else going down this path.

Cheers.

EDIT: had a 15min look around and W7 looks good. I think the pain has been worth it if first impression is anything to go by... everything (so far) is going smoothly.
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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/05 13:18:06 (permalink)
Hey Mully,

Great news!  I'm glad you were able to figure that out, that's awesome.

Windows 7 is a great OS and it's very stable out of the box.  You may encounter problems with plugin compatibility with the 64 bit version of Sonar though.  If this is the case, go ahead and install the 32 bit version of Sonar too.  This will allow you to use those plugins that won't work in Sonar 64 bit.  Anyways, hope you enjoy your brand new Windows 7 system :-)


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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/05 13:24:26 (permalink)
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What's the trick to installing Sonar 64 bit on Win 7?  I keep getting the popup "be sure you have local administrator rights" no matter what I try, even using the "run as administrator" option to try the install.

 
Are you logged in as the administrator of this system?  You may not if you have more than one user account.

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/05 13:38:15 (permalink)
There's just one account, and it says I'm administrator.
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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/05 20:03:38 (permalink)
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Hmmm, I don't think the problem is with the mouse and keyboard to be honest.  There's gotta be something else going on.

Plus, how do you plan on inputting the required data when needed?

I installed Windows 7 using both a mouse and keyboard that are hooked up to a KVM switch.  If that didn't cause problems, much less if they're connected directly to the PC.

Like I said, something else is going on.  Just my 2 cents :-)
USB peripherals was the issue in my case. I was talking about USB keyboards and mice. I had to grab an old ps2 style connector set to get it going.



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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/05 20:06:55 (permalink)
drmathprog


There's just one account, and it says I'm administrator.

 
Hmmm, you might wanna contact Cakewalk about this one.
 
Sorry I couldn't help more.
 
 

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/05 20:07:59 (permalink)
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Jose7822


Hmmm, I don't think the problem is with the mouse and keyboard to be honest.  There's gotta be something else going on.

Plus, how do you plan on inputting the required data when needed?

I installed Windows 7 using both a mouse and keyboard that are hooked up to a KVM switch.  If that didn't cause problems, much less if they're connected directly to the PC.

Like I said, something else is going on.  Just my 2 cents :-)
USB peripherals was the issue in my case. I was talking about USB keyboards and mice. I had to grab an old ps2 style connector set to get it going.

 
I see.  That makes sense.
 
 
 

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/05 22:24:17 (permalink)
Just wanted to let you guys know about another cool feature in Windows 7.  

We now have native support for Quicktime files like .mov and H.264 out of the box!

No need to download QuickTime anymore :-)


Take care!



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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/06 05:54:02 (permalink)
Jose thanks mate for the 32 bit suggestion. Definitely noted... hope to start getting back to tracking this weekend once everything is 'restored' to it's former glory (starting tonight!).

Best cheers.

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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2009/11/06 09:32:24 (permalink)
Don't mentione it Mully. 

Happy tracking!


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Re:First Impressions on Windows 7 2012/03/27 02:18:40 (permalink)
I know this is a very old thread---but--- People still may read it, and in case anyone is thinking to take the advice given in it, to remove the 100MB "System Reserved" partition, my suggestion is---DON'T. I am also very picky about my OS installations, remove a lot of things, try to fine-tune, etc. But I would not recommend that at all. In fact , one time, I don't know how, I lost that partition. I looked up how to re-create it (don't ask me now, don't remember it or where I found it), and I re-created it. That system reserved partition is a great lifesaver, If your computer will not boot into Win7, you can boot into that recovery environment instead. There, you can do various things to get your computer booting again. For instance, you can run System Restore from there, and restore a previous restore point, so you can boot again. What is the downside of having the hidden "System Reserved" partition? I do not see any at all, including in the OP's post, unless you are concerned about losing the 100MB of storage. But that is a pittance these days, not at all too much for what could save your computer. I don't see how having that partition could possibly affect the computer's performance. yes, You can do the same recoery things with the Win7 recovery bootable CD, but it is much easier not to have to look for the CD. Much simpler to boot into the recovery environment. I think that is bad advice, to recommend that people delete that partition.
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