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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/28 22:02:04 (permalink)
I'm new to Sonar and to soft synths. I just got reason 4.0 and have about 5 songs i want to record and master into SOnar. I load reason in through rewire and can hear it and add effects no problem. I just don't know how to record from reason into sonar. The manual is no picnic. Can somebody please help???
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/28 22:09:20 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK

+1 for sticky
+1 for sticky in every Cakewalk forum



+11111 For Sticky in every forum, Cakewalk or otherwise. EVERY music recording forum on the web should have that post front and center!

Thank You!
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/29 21:36:22 (permalink)
Hi Mateo

Like you I have just got Reason 4 and I am also using Sonar 7. Gotta say initially Sonar 7 is a **** and I am finding Reason easier to use. Of course I am having problems in Reason but it seems more user friendly. What do you think?
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/29 23:56:48 (permalink)
Dean,

as a complete noob I would like to say THANK YOU SO MUCH! This explanation was clear and concise and is probably the most helpful thing I've found. Just from this one post I know so much more than I did before that it is hard to explain how much it helped me. This is exactly the sort of help I need to be able to use all the powerful tools that I got when I bought Sonar, or at least to understand the vary basics of what they do. This was absolutely invaluable!

Dave
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/30 00:46:48 (permalink)
Thanks for this posting; an excellent summary. I've pasted it, saved it and forwarded to two fellow newbies.

Richard
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/30 01:09:48 (permalink)
What no Sticky yet??? Whats up with that!

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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/30 07:03:44 (permalink)
Classy write up. Superb.
post edited by cmusicmaker - 2008/04/02 06:26:02
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/30 10:46:04 (permalink)
he 'Mixing Spaces'

When you are mixing your song, the goal is obviously of course to have all the various tracks combine in some complementary way. You do this by placing each track somewhere in a number of spaces. These spaces are listed here along with the tools you use....


My 14 year old son inherited the bug to compose and plays guitar quite well (at least for his age). He asked me to record one of his new ideas the other day...I thought...yeah sure, it will be a good scratch project for me to get to know S7 ( I've been doing video production only since S2 and have a lot of refreshing/learning ahead of me) and it'll be fun for him to hear his idea with drums, bass, etc.
We recorded the first track (Death Metal kinda stuff) and then the second track. The two sounded okay by themselves but turned into noise together (due to both tracks having guitar with LOTS of distortion, both playing at same LOW frequencies, and similar rhythm).
I tried to explain this to him but not very well I think.
That said, I think the section on Mixing Spaces will not only explain to him what I was trying to tell him but also help me to separate the tracks better (would love to hear tips from anyone with Death Metal mixing experience).

Thank you very much for your efforts Dean,
Randy
post edited by g_randybrown - 2008/03/30 11:19:04
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/30 11:01:08 (permalink)
Excellent stuff, maybe you should consider bitflippers suggestion - you have a good, clear style.

I'm a perfectionist, and perfect is a skinned knee.
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/31 09:22:18 (permalink)
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/31 14:10:37 (permalink)
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3) I've pardoned all spelling issues per your advice, except one: a "buss" is the kiss on the cheek I give the singer for a take well done. A "bus" is where I route a track

Actually, most people spell it wrong. According to the experts, it's really a buss, not a bus. Though, if you search for 'signal buss' on Google you really only find 'signal bus'. And, interestingly, in the dictionary, neither bus nor buss is indicated as meaning something that a signal travels over, but it's always been called a 'buss' in studio'ese.

I'm not sure how they got that terminology, but 'buss' is the correct term for them. I don't know why Sonar labels them as 'bus' necessarily. Maybe there's no fully accepted spelling, but generally if you use 'bus', the old timers will make fun of you. If you search on google for Audio Buss or mixing buss, you find it always using that spelling.

Anyone have a definitive answer for this?


Here's a shot:

From the New Oxford American Dictionary:

Bus: "Computing: a distinct set of conductors carrying data and control signals within a computer system, to which pieces of equipment may be connected in parallel."

Buss: only definition given is "kiss."

FWIW, I think I qualify as an old timer by now, although I don't claim great studio expertise. But anyone who has spliced tape and done computer programming by punching cards probably qualifies as old, now.

P.>: Musicians seem about as interested in spelling as in sobriety. I've mostly given up the fight over "micing" [what cats do, not what is done with a microphone -- the "i" after the "c" changes the pronounciation from "k" to "s"], although "miking" seems like a fairly obvious solution.
post edited by aaronk - 2008/03/31 14:36:46
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/31 15:28:27 (permalink)
Yeh, there's definitely some wierd history going on there. For instance, it's not the Dangerous 2 Bus, it's the Dangerous 2 Buss. And discussions about analog consoles tend to talk about the 2 Buss or aux busses. Maybe they were using it in the kissing sense, i.e. connecting two things like in a kiss, instead of the signal carrying sense. I dunno. If you search Goole with 'mixing buss', you'll get 117,000 hits under that spelling. But 'mixing bus' gets like 685K hits. And buss is often used when discussing PCI or PCIe as well.

So I guess it's just one of those things where both usages are active and you can pick your own. I guess I'll start using 'bus' from here on out, since it seems to be the more formally accepted usage, and just take my chances.
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/03/31 16:09:07 (permalink)
Yeh, there's definitely some wierd history going on there. For instance, it's not the Dangerous 2 Bus, it's the Dangerous 2 Buss. And discussions about analog consoles tend to talk about the 2 Buss or aux busses.


Well, "busses" is a dictionary-accepted plural of "bus", so that's OK.

FWIW, both of the thick electronics dictionaries in my library give definitions of "bus" that more or less match what happens on a mixing console, but neither give any entry for "buss." (Kissing being unknown to most EE's, I guess. . . )

It all boils down, I guess, to whether your outlook on life is normative or empirical.
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/04/02 05:18:26 (permalink)
We're not going to get a sticky, are we?

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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/04/02 06:20:06 (permalink)
Classy write up. Superb.

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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/04/02 06:28:34 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Desperate Dan

Classy write up. Superb.

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Musicmaker Dont you want to edit your Message and take the whole quote out?, it's a great article but a waste of space if people Quote the Whole thing again and then add one line like "Classy Message" on to it. Makes scrolling a PITA


Sorry Dan. My earlier post is now edited. I see your point it was a lengthy quote
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/04/02 06:42:44 (permalink)
Outstanding for making this a sticky CW. Bout time LOL!

Best
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/04/02 07:21:26 (permalink)
Awesome indeed!

 
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/04/02 08:52:45 (permalink)
Thanks you Cakewalk guys - I'm impressed with what you've done here.

Can I go cap in hand and ask for this to be made a sticky in the Guitar Tracks forum?

Dean's already been generous enough to let me start a thread with his original post over there - it obviously won't need bumping as often as in here, but I believe that, given the comprehensive amount of topics Dean covers, and the sheer amount of relevant information it has for new [and old!] members, it deserves it's rightful place at the top of the GT forum.

Thanks in advance for considering my request

Steve




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post edited by SteveStrummerUK - 2008/04/02 08:53:54

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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/04/02 11:19:39 (permalink)
Brilliant - thanks Dean!

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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/04/02 12:21:46 (permalink)
Very nice!

I wish this would have been around when I was first delving into SONAR and DAW's in general.

Erik

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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/04/02 17:51:58 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK

Thanks you Cakewalk guys - I'm impressed with what you've done here.

Can I go cap in hand and ask for this to be made a sticky in the Guitar Tracks forum?

Dean's already been generous enough to let me start a thread with his original post over there - it obviously won't need bumping as often as in here, but I believe that, given the comprehensive amount of topics Dean covers, and the sheer amount of relevant information it has for new [and old!] members, it deserves it's rightful place at the top of the GT forum.

Thanks in advance for considering my request

Steve




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Just to let you guys know - Cakewalk have stickied Dean's thread for us in the GT forum tonight.

Thanks Cakewalk and thanks again Dean!!

Top banana all round

Steve

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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/04/02 18:08:21 (permalink)
Dean, hello, thanks for the update of three new topics

the AP Stylebook, the bible for many writers; sheds no light on the bus question

it seems the majority of the sound world is defaulting toward the one s spelling

mix down however is definitely a two-word spelling

regards,

-JD
post edited by contact@jondunn.org - 2008/04/02 19:56:14
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/04/03 10:49:54 (permalink)
thanks for posting this, i learned alot! I always wondered why my recordings sounded like crap.
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/04/03 14:08:19 (permalink)
I don't know if it explains that, else mine wouldn't sound like crap still :-)

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Need help with SONAR 7 install. 2008/05/11 11:45:06 (permalink)
I recently purchased SONAR 7 pro. I upgraded from SONAR 4 home studio and need help loading S7. I have a TASCAM audio/midi Interface and I am running windows XP essential. Everything I load as far as drivers and other software does fine. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Karl
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/05/29 19:41:20 (permalink)
hey, thats some great info, really helpful.
for the extreme newbies, you should give the definition of DAW, cause some people might not even know!

you have done the owners of sonar a great service
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/06/22 20:06:42 (permalink)
THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO PUT THIS ALL DOWN, THIS FORUM CONTINUES TO BE A WEALTH OF INFORMATION TO SOMEONE NEW TO THE DAW PLATFORM.
CHEERS DRODDEY!!!
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2008/06/30 00:55:10 (permalink)
Newbie - Cakewalk 7 producer Ed. running 3.0 MHz 1 Gig Ram on XP Pro with Creative LAbs Live sound card which is USB connected to Roland RD 700SX. So how do I get the RD-700 SX sound recorded so that in playback it is the Roland's sound setup and not something that is from within cakewalk??? I put the INS file for the Roland RD 700 into Cakewalk and have it selected. Please tell me what I am doing wrong! I want to record some of my original compositions to CD with my Roland's sound setup - it output midi so I just don't get it! Thanks for any help I can get!

Best regards,
Dona
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RE: For newbies (a broad overview of many topics) 2009/01/06 08:54:33 (permalink)
Fantastic post mate, thanks very much for that. Having just started out with DAWs and Sonar, this is a big help and saves me asking some embarrassingly simple questions ;)

Jud
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