I'm going to AES, I'll report from the floor once I see it.

Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy!

it`s probably a revamped version of the Edirol M-16DX digital mixer since it has been out for a while and sales have probably dropped off, so now they put CAKEWALK on it and it`s like a whole new product that us cakies must have LOL.

no one has ever thought of this.. maybe I should patent it.. innovation or what

a controller.. BUT with a tea's maid bolted on the side... no more hiring a tea person (have to be pc these days ) to get a brew on

so if they bolted on this onto the side >



think of all the extra sales

(although guess they would have to put.. warning may contain hot liquid disclaimer on the side for the more litigious user )

perhaps the "pro" version could also include a toaster..

Thanks a ton for this post.... it gives me hope! I agree a 'pro level' mixing surface (min 16 channels) with cue bussing 24 in and at least 8 out with I/O for ADAT AES, SPDIF - inserts for using my own pres etc... would be amazing.... btw I do like wood too.

-D

maybe some one will leak a picture or a hint, like with S8

ORIGINAL: DonM

Thanks a ton for this post.... it gives me hope! I agree a 'pro level' mixing surface (min 16 channels) with cue bussing 24 in and at least 8 out with I/O for ADAT AES, SPDIF - inserts for using my own pres etc... would be amazing.... btw I do like wood too.

-D

I could see how SPDIF would be handy, but for the mass market.. ADAT is a bit old hat and although some use it , some might not buy it as putting that in would hike the price up "if" that's what it is.. I'm going more for the it's a straight controller interface without the audio.. but hey, who knows

I hope that it is something similar to the Tascam US2400 with more controls and meters. Also hoping for better integration into Sonar, which I think would be a given and at least 24 flying faders. I really don't want to pay for onboard preamps that I wouldn't use.

but to play devils advocate (i cant find the devil smily) what about the new users (remember the hoopla about the ad aimded at new users of Sonar?) who DON'T have redunant equipment or the first AUdio interface ????
If cake is trying to present an all in one intergrated package to first timers ala the power bundles it might make marketing sense ,,, but since it is all speculation at this point my comments might not make sense....

ORIGINAL: puffer

Not to be that guy but...

"...better integration with Sonar..." Well, duh. If it's a control surface/audio interface I imagine the Cakewalk on the front would mean that it would have spectacular interfacing with Sonar. At least on a software level.

I, for one, hope that it doesn't have anything to do with ADA or working as an audio interface. I have enough redundant equipment as it is.

Me, for my baseless speculation , I'm going to hope that it's Project5 3. Yeah, Project 5 in a hardware controller. Let that sink in.

Oh okay, Now the picture's up. Look's interesting and new alright. More G.A.S. to deal with. I think I'll wait for it to come out before I redesign the desk to fit it in.

ORIGINAL: Mont

ORIGINAL: Crg

Is what a new control surface for Sonar?
There are so many that work already.

True, but they don't have 'Cakewalk' written on them

ORIGINAL: musicman100

but to play devils advocate (i cant find the devil smily) what about the new users (remember the hoopla about the ad aimded at new users of Sonar?) who DON'T have redunant equipment or the first AUdio interface ????
If cake is trying to present an all in one intergrated package to first timers ala the power bundles it might make marketing sense ,,, but since it is all speculation at this point my comments might not make sense....

That is exactly what I'm thinking its gonna be...exACTly... (fwiw, you make a great Keanu Reeves musicman, smiley or not!!! )

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Me, for my baseless speculation , I'm going to hope that it's Project5 3. Yeah, Project 5 in a hardware controller. Let that sink in.

now thats a possibility I hope not as Sonar is the main program, I have project 5 and it aint even installed

Well, we're all going to selfishly project our Cakewalk hardware desires upon this still-mythic device.

I understand that a lot of people may want an integrated audio interface, and if Cake can make a run with it, better for 'em. And if it serves some people, very cool.

But I'm thinking of P5's Groove Matrix, and how it's a great MPC-like way of triggering audio and MIDI and jamming on grooves and composing a song "live" - I've made pretty good use of my TriggerFinger to these ends, but an improved P5 with a hardware controller that can be used live. Much fun to be had.

I'd certainly conjecture some kind of control surface. Sonar/Roland will have been looking at the Pro Tools integrated hardware offerings and also be looking nervously sideways at Yamaha/Steinberg who as yet have not delivered anything compelling but who must also be thinking along similar lines.

I'd imagine that some kind of digital mixer/control surface (i.e combined multichannel audio interface and mixer) is the most likely possibility. Tight integration with Sonar will make this potentially an attractive offering. I'd think to keep costs down although there will be some kind of display, electronic scribble strips against many controls (as in the high-end Digidesign offerings) would be unlikely, but I would not be surprised to find some kind of reasonably decent display to control the unit with - perhaps - touch sensitivity as this is now a relatively low-cost option to add. 8 motorised faders is probably the sweet spot. Think something like the BCF2000 in terms of controls with a display and inbuilt digital mixer/multichannel audio interface (8 channels, most likely, over USB).

Highly likely to be usable outside of Sonar, of course, but you would expect as I said tight integration with Sonar 'out of the box'.

If this is what they deliver I for one would find my chequebook finger twitching (depending on price, of course). Something that 'just works' with Sonar would certainly be pretty attractive and you would expect good support, too.

If Cakewalks' past development is any indication, then this hardware device will have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL to do with P5, and everything to do with Sonar.

Could you be a little clearer I couldnt understand what you were saying edit lol the big letters get it anyway

ORIGINAL: Fog

ORIGINAL: DonM

Thanks a ton for this post.... it gives me hope! I agree a 'pro level' mixing surface (min 16 channels) with cue bussing 24 in and at least 8 out with I/O for ADAT AES, SPDIF - inserts for using my own pres etc... would be amazing.... btw I do like wood too.

-D

I could see how SPDIF would be handy, but for the mass market.. ADAT is a bit old hat and although some use it , some might not buy it as putting that in would hike the price up "if" that's what it is.. I'm going more for the it's a straight controller interface without the audio.. but hey, who knows

Not so around here and a bunch of other places. ADAT is the I/O for a ton of interfaces and SMUX continues to show up allowing for 96Khz on interfaces. I wouldn't buy an interface or a multi-channel digital device that doesn't have it.

-D