dubdisciple


I seriously hope Charmin does not have a forum. 

Didn't we have a 42 pages long thread/poll downstairs in the Coffee House outlining the merits of each brand of toilet paper some time ago? If not, I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we make it happen. ;)

anniedog


FYI  Cubase 7 is to be released Dec 5th. I looked at the features plus yamaha's new production io ethernet based and expandable console console integration and Daw control . if it works as advertised it will blow everything that exists now away.This even has a special ASIO guard to prevent dropouts. I think I will be moving on. No offence to CW or current users. I was  there once was. But no one is listening any more to the users just too many bugs still in X2. It can do all kinds of fancy looping, virtual instruments but cannot track a simple 24 track session without multiple cracks pops latency and dropouts .. My time and my clients time are far too valuable to wait for X 20. It really will take that long until someone gets it and fixes the code from the ground up.I See other loyal cake walkers sniffing out other Daw sites so I am afraid I am not the only one. I'm glad I own no stock in this company. I don't think I could sleep knowing my money was in a very leaky boat with impaired deck officers.  Maybe you really should bake cakes , because code writing  just is not  working for you. My only loyalty from this point on is to my clients and myself.Hard earned cash should buy solutions and not admission to Daw Hell.
Please remove from forum. I do thank the kind helpful members for help over the years. I do however believe now this company in beyond help.

well, good luck man and may the Gods of technology treat you better with a new version of Cubase... having used virtually every DAW out there and having gone through two Pro Tools TDM rigs all I can say is pick a horse and ride it - because there are tradeoffs and stability issues in each one. 

Bristol_Jonesey


I can't believe this has reached 6 pages. 

It has because we are discussing interesting stuff. The OP is no longer involved. 

Funny hey!
          It's quite obvious that the op needs some serious study time if he can't get 24 tracks of plain audio recording/playback. I commented because like it or not in the last few years there does seem to be a lot more (how can I say this) perhaps passive aggressive responses to posters that are critical of Sonar/cakewalk. I remember when even trolls/tards couldn't get us worked up on these forums. We happily WALKED with a simple STABLE daw. Sure the OP probably needs to DEFRAG his drive but there are some major FLAWS, ISSUES, BUGS, whatever you want to call them in sonar they have been present for at least 3 versions now. 
HERE'S ONE!.>> Looping midi clips that drive soft synths in the matrix. There is a noticeable drift of between 1-2 ms when the clip is looping in the matrix compared to the same clip looping in the arrangement pane.The flanging in and out when you duplicate two syntyhs is the first telltale sign then there's the erratic hits and velocity on the first notes of the matrix looped syn.ONLY with ASIO latency set at 1.5 ms does it get close to OK! (close isn't good enough).
This does this with my harware as well  (Virus TIJV1080,Supernova,Venom,TB 303) all LFO's sync PERFECTLY when looping in arrange page throw them in the matrix oh oh !! here comes the drift... 
Despite having crappy editing tools and the ugliest GUI ever LIVE CAN DO  IT EXACTLY right in session and arrange at the same time without this problem it just can't do all the other things that I "LOVE" about SONAR.
Now.... Tell me it's Audio Drivers, my mobo  my H.D.D my ram my OS my .INI file my byte allocation size on my drives ,my PCI latency or is it the look ahead plugs that im NOT using.
 MAYBE it's just Sonar the once" (12) toned" mid 20's DAW that's slowly becoming the overdressed overweight BLOATED mid 40's DAW that can't just run down to the park and back anymore. ROLAND I have LOVED YOU FOR YEARS. get your sh8t together or I'm going to start sleeping around town sheesh I might even try logic on a MAC !!(EEEWW THAT'S TOO GOING FAR) 
:) 
RANT OVER 
Just GOT x2 installed HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH 

OK class! Time for a movie.
 
About 10 sec. in you can see the OP, I think.
 
Anyway, you'll get a real "flip" out of the ending. Enjoy!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VB_bQDUxykw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2oirimH9-A

dude...goldendoodle here...best family dog in the world. funny how they think they're a little poodle but they're really 60 pounds. yup my goldendoodle is.

 
Ha, small world...   xxx-doodles are the best for non-shedding personality, I completely agree.   And having one at 40 lbs and one at 90 lbs, they certainly aren't small when stepping on feet or jumping up on the bed.  
 
 
 
 
 
What were we talking about again? 

 I think ththese threads are what keep me interested (Barely) .
It's REALLY IRONIC that I used to be a dumbass fanboi ranting at people that dissed Sonar/Cakewalk.

NOW I just want about 8 certain features of live IN  SONARx3 and MAX/MSP intergration. PLUS the SYNC issues FIXED !!
 

Good luck on your musical journey jsg. Bye bye.

Here come the Fanbois
I wish you good luck Jerry, please keep us informed of your new DAW experiences. 

jsg

My reasons have to do mainly with the staff view and their long-standing policy of not fixing bugs, and adding new ones in X1 and X2.   

It's bad enough that Cakewalk is removing features (color customization, staff view track pane active track selection, toolbars) but the fact that a software company would still leave remnants of these features in the software but without any real functionality (as in the appearance that colors can still be customized when most cannot) tells me these folks are no longer serious software producers.  

 
What Cakewalk is apparently doing is marketing to the much larger market share of musical amateurs, 
 
When questioned, every Cakewalk release has the same excuse:  We couldn't justify working on the staff view because we have to add one more EQ, or one more compressor, or one more software synth and so on.  I got news for Cakewalk--Pro producers who know what they're doing use 3rd party signal processing because they're generally much better (like Ozone 5 advanced for example).  
 

Well fanbois, like it or not but Jerry is RIGHT!
I think it’s time to make a new post for “EVERYONE” to list all the bugs that were never fixed, then send it to “ROLAND” as an open letter. Including older bugs like the TTS-1 distorting at 24/96 kHz. Which I reported to them Oct. 2010 when I used sonar 6 but this issue was never addressed by cake and still remains in X2. 

All the best to you jsg! and don’t forget to write home occasionally to inform us of your new DAW adventures. IMHO if cake retains it current policies you along with others will be the start of a tsunami exodus. 

John


You know Glen when you call people "fanbois" you insult the vast membership of this forum.

But think about this, without the "fanbois" here who would offer you or anyone help? 

I find it stunning that anyone here that has ever ask for help can feel free to use that term. 

Not only is it wrong but needlessly upsetting.

I don't like the term fanboi either, it's really a euphemism for an apologetic, someone who excuses things. I don't think anyone here is letting CW off the hook for bugs.

At my age, and having done so many things associated with manhood, having boy, in any form used to refer to me is an insult. I'm a Grandfather. I have served my country in combat I have done a lot of things in my life that does not deserve me being called a boy. Its careless talk of this sort that can lead to unfortunate results in real life and on this forum. 

I don't for a moment think you meant to insult me personally but keep in mind that when anyone is insulted here we all are. You may not see this now but it also impacts negatively on you. 

We are all in this together. We're here to learn and help each other. Why anyone wants to stereotype people is unknown to me. Take each on their own merits and give each as much leeway as you would want to have yourself.

Ultimately the use of the word fanboy is in violation of the TOS and should be stricken from everyones vocabulary.    

I would say a perfect description of a fanboy would be someone who came on this very forum about six months ago and stated, without a trace of irony or sarcasm, that "X1 was the most successful  SONAR release ever"
 
Ring any bells?
 
Now I would definitely consider that complete apology and mistruth of a statement to be an 'insult', both to the integrity and intelligence of a great many forum members who had nothing but trouble with the product when it was released.
 
I must add, I don't like the term 'fanboy' either, but when people spout rubbish like that in the face of the clear facts that tell a very different story, it's no wonder the word gets bandied about in thier company.
 
 

Who was that? Did it sell more than previous releases? If so then that's a fair statement. If  not who give a darn anyway? Where are the facts before you dis people? More to the point does anybody care because I honestly don't.

Just my tuppence-worth:-
 
I can only speak from my own experience of using Sonar and this forum.
 
Sonar (and possibly other DAWS and software) does seem to behave differently on different systems, and with different settings.  I had problems when I upgraded to X1, but they were mainly user error, or buffer settings related, etc.  The other issues had completely gone by X1d.  It was extremely stable.
 
I had quite a few crashes with X2, which all disappeared with the quickfix.  I now find it very stable once more.
 
I realise that this is on MY system.  On someone else's it may be hell, I don't know.  Just because someone may state that all is well and they like Sonar, when other people's experience is disastrous, doesn't mean that they are necessarily making it up or being a "fanboy", or whatever.  That may just be their experience of the product.
 
When someone posts on her saying "All is well, I love Sonar" I think "Oh, good, they're getting the same results as me."
 
When someone states that all is not well, I will try to offer any help, or point them to someone more knowledgeable,  in case it is a system specific problem, or, like me, user error.
 
When someone just slags Sonar off, without appearing to listen to any advice, then I might argue the point.
 
I think my long-winded point is:
 
Just because you're having a bad time, doesn't mean that anyone who is okay is Ahole, or a "fanboy".  It is just working well for them.