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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/03 20:35:12 (permalink)
I found myself up really late last night diving into it. It's not easy to see however, it doesn't go crazy when I use Zoomtext (screen magnifier). The only thing I don't like about it is that the font colors ard the background aren't contrasting enough for me. Though they are better than Sonar's. I can't use Zoomtext with Sonar.
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/03 20:35:25 (permalink)
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However for less than $20, I find it interesting something like this really adds some polish.  What a great world of computer recording we have at our disposal.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/03 21:16:09 (permalink)
I picked it up even though it's going to be probably 5 weeks before I can even work with it. I've got to go out of town for business in 2 weeks and won't return until June 6th. For this price, it was cheap insurance.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/03 21:57:26 (permalink)
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I picked it up even though it's going to be probably 5 weeks before I can even work with it. I've got to go out of town for business in 2 weeks and won't return until June 6th. For this price, it was cheap insurance.



You caved in to peer pressure!

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/04 09:51:13 (permalink)
Thanks Jeff and Bapu! That is how I think of it (once I get it, anyway), a flavor that I will really like "sometimes" and that seems very worth $20......hardly "caving"! LOL
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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/04 10:09:59 (permalink)
Clint.......maybe. It came so highly recommended, at this price it just seemed like I might regret passing it up. I just wish I had more time to down load it and play around with it before I leave town. AD2 and EZD2 are going to come out too, just days before I leave on this huge project. That's going to be a real dilemma.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/04 10:11:48 (permalink)
That was a joke for Make Shift. I'm really loving Mixbus. For the price of a cheap plugin, this thing is a no brainer.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/04 11:35:28 (permalink)
I knew that, but everyone does seem to like it. So, I punched "Buy", before I missed it this time around. I was also concerned that 3 might be around the corner and it would be the end of sales.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/04 12:35:16 (permalink)
I think you'll like it. In my mind I thought it would be nice to mix acoustic or blues projects with mixbus. I even think tracking in it may be fun. With EZ2 it will be EZ to create a complete song and export that to use in Mixbus. Sonar X3 is far superior in everyway and after playing around a bit, I find I can almost get the mixbus sound by using Klanghelm's SDRR (which is $3 more than mixbus) and Magnetic II. This was done only with completed projects and not individual tracks, so I would expect a little more analog mojo with the projects split into individual tracks on Mixbus. It's great to have great tools, and I love the price!

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/04 12:47:55 (permalink)
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I think you'll like it. In my mind I thought it would be nice to mix acoustic or blues projects with mixbus. I even think tracking in it may be fun. With EZ2 it will be EZ to create a complete song and export that to use in Mixbus. Sonar X3 is far superior in everyway and after playing around a bit, I find I can almost get the mixbus sound by using Klanghelm's SDRR (which is $3 more than mixbus) and Magnetic II. This was done only with completed projects and not individual tracks, so I would expect a little more analog mojo with the projects split into individual tracks on Mixbus. It's great to have great tools, and I love the price!


I agree with you. I'm thinking very acoustic stuff with Mixbus-acoustic guitars, blues drums, etc. I live and work in an area that is full of incredible acoustic acts who want a more "low-fi" (their terminology :) ) sound. Mixbus sounds like the stuff I worked on in the 70s and 80s. Sort of. It's definitely not for everything.
 
I also agree Klanghelm's stuff is really good. Mixbus is just very quick. 
 
I haven't had much time to really climb inside (my 7 year old daughter's penchant for tea parties the last couple of days outweighed mine for the studio!). All said, it's another tool. Tools are good!

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 00:07:44 (permalink)
Like Jeff, I've had Mixbus from early on. It sounds like I use it much the same as well, ie to add the analog sound to tracks, stems or an entire mix via 2 track.
 
As others have mentioned, it's not for every song, but I do love the worth it adds!
 
I'm interested in SouthPaw's idea of running signal through Mixbus on it's way into Sonar. Gonna give that a try.
 

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 12:43:15 (permalink)
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I did a quick experiment to see if I could use Mixbus as an actual mixer before I inputted to Sonar. It works like a charm! JACK apparently does work in Windows with the 2.5 update so it made this real easy. Here's what I did:
 
1-Open both Sonar and Mixbus making sure they are both using the same ASIO drivers. I have a MOTU Track 16 with a Focusrite Octo Pre Dynamic connected via ADAT so I have plenty of I/Os. 
2-In Mixbus make one or more tracks and set the inputs. Make sure you are using "Mixbus Does Monitoring".
3-Use one of the sends for each track input, i.e., if there are 2 stereo mics on an acoustic guitar arm send one for mic one and send two for mic two. Turn off the MASTER button for each track so you are monitoring the track through the busses.
4-On the corresponding busses assign via Track Direct Outputs to OUTS other than the MAIN OUT. This lets you listen PRE-Sonar from the MAIN OUT of Mixbus
5-In Sonar insert a track and set the input to one (or two if it's a stereo input) of the bus outs from Mixbus.
6-Arm for recording and you'll see the signal from Mixbus in Sonar. Now just hit RECORD and away you go. The signal that gets recorded in Sonar is the signal processed first in Mixbus. You can take advantage of its EQ and compressors on the Mixbus strips and record the signal dry while monitoring with verb from the Master OUT.
7-If you wish to monitor from within Sonar just hit Input Echo on in Sonar and mute the Master Bus in MIxbus
 
I don't have time to really get into this for a few days but the quickie tracks I recorded this way with the Harrison console vibe before it hits Sonar is cool. We'll see how many uses this has. I have not run into any clocking issues or latency problems.
 
Let me know what you think about this you guys.
 




Hi Tommy
 
Thanks for outlining this method, this is one of the ways I want to use Mixbus with X3.
 
However, I must be doing something wrong. I set up Mixbus as you suggest, but once I change focus to SONAR (to select a track) I get this message:
 

There are no options to reassign my TonePort (my soundcard) to SONAR after I close this message.
 
My TonePort has 2 Ins, but even if I set a track up to in advance of opening Mixbus to input from 3-4, I still get the same message.
 
I checked my Preferences in SONAR and I have "Share Drivers with other Programs" checked.
 
No doubt I'm missing something incredibly daft, but I can't figure it out!
 
 
 

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 13:09:53 (permalink)
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I still want a DAW that sounds a cool as Mixbus, is as flexible as Sonar, has the timeline features from DP, audio editing from Sound Forge and Wavelab, and expression maps from Cuebendo... but it does not exist.
 
So I use different tools for different tasks.

I really like Mixbus, but I don't use it as much as I used to because the x86 vs x64 thing has become more of a hassle than I care to deal with. Maybe I'm just lazy???



 
I feel the exact same way, Bill.
There are significant strengths/weaknesses in each DAW application.
I'd love to add Mixbus to the toolbox, but the current lack of 64Bit and VSTi feels too limiting.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 13:15:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jbow 2014/05/09 17:37:17
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I still want a DAW that sounds a cool as Mixbus, is as flexible as Sonar, has the timeline features from DP, audio editing from Sound Forge and Wavelab, and expression maps from Cuebendo... but it does not exist.
 
So I use different tools for different tasks.

I really like Mixbus, but I don't use it as much as I used to because the x86 vs x64 thing has become more of a hassle than I care to deal with. Maybe I'm just lazy???



 
I feel the exact same way, Bill.
There are significant strengths/weaknesses in each DAW application.
I'd love to add Mixbus to the toolbox, but the current lack of 64Bit and VSTi feels too limiting.



Jim, 

several reasons to be on board now...

I know they are working on 64 bit and MIDI support.
Getting in now at $20 gets you "in the door" for dirt cheap for the upgrade.
It works perfectly fine in Win 8.1...
For now, it can serve as a "Bridge" for several uses...

I've thrown $20 out the window more then one time...
this is NOT throwing money out the window IMO...
post edited by cclarry - 2014/05/05 13:34:18


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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 13:25:18 (permalink)
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Jim, 

several reasons to be on board now...

I know they are working on 64 bit and MIDI support.
Getting in now at $20 gets you "in the door" for dirt cheap for the upgrade.
It works perfectly fine in Win 8.1...
For now, it can serve as a "Bridge" for several uses...

I've thrown $20 out then window more then one time...
this is NOT throwing money out the window IMO...



Good points...
Going to snag the Vegas Pro 13 Suite upgrade (today).
I'll probably add Mixbus.  At $20, it's not much of a risk. 
 
 

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 17:53:24 (permalink)
I went for the Mixbus deal last week.  Glad I did, as this thing imparts a nice "vintage" sound on tracks and is pretty easy to use.  I did as some here suggested and imported audio stems from a mix.  Comparing its output with that from the "normal" DAW, the sound is smooth, coherent, and very easy on the ears.  Got a mix that is sounding a bit too harsh?  Looking for a warm, retro vibe?  Give Mixbus a try.  It delivered for me. 
 
Great deal, which according to the site lasts until 5/15.  No-brainer for sure.  Thanks to all those who have posted about Mixbus!
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 18:19:33 (permalink)
Went for it based on the good recs here, all 19.95 of it.  Cheaper than a six pack of Sterno.
Have no idea what I went for, but went for it. Poster child of GAS mentality. Got to go see a shrink if this continues...
Hoping it will breathe some life into my cheap AudioTechnica AT2010 mics.
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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 19:43:21 (permalink)
 



Hi Tommy
 
Thanks for outlining this method, this is one of the ways I want to use Mixbus with X3.
 
However, I must be doing something wrong. I set up Mixbus as you suggest, but once I change focus to SONAR (to select a track) I get this message:
 

There are no options to reassign my TonePort (my soundcard) to SONAR after I close this message.
 
My TonePort has 2 Ins, but even if I set a track up to in advance of opening Mixbus to input from 3-4, I still get the same message.
 
I checked my Preferences in SONAR and I have "Share Drivers with other Programs" checked.
 
No doubt I'm missing something incredibly daft, but I can't figure it out!
 
 
 



Hi Steve,
Try and start Mixbus first and Sonar second. I haven't had any issues at all with drivers. They just open up in both. Does Toneport have more than one IN pair and one OUT pair? For this to work you have to have a route out and in as well as main outs. I'm using patchbays to physically patch the I/Os. 
 
I also set it up so I can go directly from Sonar to Mixbus using basically the same setup. 
 
I inserted stereo tracks in Mixbus and set their inputs. Set my drum bus OUTS in Sonar to an OUT and patched that to the in selected in Mixbus. It worked perfectly. This is very handy. I can even patch out of Sonar into Mixbus and back into Sonar. This is crazy and changes my whole setup.
 
There are limitations for sure but I like the early returns. 

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 19:49:57 (permalink)
side door question...   Since it seems that this is such a great product to add a little oomph to the sound, is $219 a *no-brainer* price if you're really looking to get as best possible sound, but still not selling the farm to purchase it?  $20 is "happy meal" price territory, but the ProChannel pack is $179 and wonder what people would rather have, IF this wasn't at the give away price.  IOW, would people be jumping on this if it was $119?
 
Personally, I'm real good at throwing $20 bills away, but the threads around here make this sound like you'd be crazy not to jump on this.  Because of the price??   {only?}

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 20:18:15 (permalink)
I honestly would not have bought Mixbus had it not been $20. I love the PC stuff and use them all the time. I just had to take advantage of the deal with so many recommendations. I'm really glad I did. A week ago it wasn't even on my radar and now it's becoming an interesting part of my setup.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 20:23:32 (permalink)
It sounds really nice. Go ahead and buy it if you have an extra $20...you won't regret it. If money is tight...I would buy tacos. I love a good taco.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 20:27:07 (permalink)
At this point, I have no interest in using any DAW but Logic. I've uninstalled Pro Tools and Cubase and sold Studio One. 
 
MixBus is the one possible exception to that rule, because it isn't just another DAW.
 
On the other hand, I guess that if I owned something like Slate's Virtual Console Collection, or Waves' NLS, coupled w/ a tape emulation such as Kramer Tape or Slate's, MB might have less appeal. 

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/05 21:14:35 (permalink)
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On the other hand, I guess that if I owned something like Slate's Virtual Console Collection, or Waves' NLS, coupled w/ a tape emulation such as Kramer Tape or Slate's, MB might have less appeal. 

 
I have those other plugins, and while they're fine, MixBus goes far beyond what I've ever been able to achieve with them.  The way the whole mix seems to gel together and present itself as one piece of music, rather than a collection of tracks, is quite remarkable.  It's definitely not a subtle, transparent effect, which may not suit all tastes or genres -- I don't think I'd reach for MB for a modern dance-pop or metal record -- but if the soft-focus, organic sound appeals to you, it's a great addition to the toolbox.
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/06 10:29:46 (permalink)
I've been mixing stems with it for over a year now but still can't find a better way to save over user presets & project/ template files without deleting the others first.
There's isn't a replace option I can find. Anyone know if there is?

BTW for anyone using x64 plugins exclusively use j-bridge & convert all your x64 'mixing' plugins over to 32b into a dedicated 'Mixbuss' folder. No need to install both.
It's also the only way I could get Nebula to work.
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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/06 16:37:07 (permalink)
I finally got round to picking this up and installing it!!
 
Few quick questions for the long time users.
 
Do you just import your bus stems or individual tracks for a whole session?
Does it make a difference to the sound with more tracks?
Are you re-importing back into Sonar to master after you have the "Harrison sound" or finishing there?
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/06 16:50:13 (permalink)
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Hi Steve,
Try and start Mixbus first and Sonar second. I haven't had any issues at all with drivers. They just open up in both. Does Toneport have more than one IN pair and one OUT pair? For this to work you have to have a route out and in as well as main outs. I'm using patchbays to physically patch the I/Os. 
 
I also set it up so I can go directly from Sonar to Mixbus using basically the same setup. 
 
I inserted stereo tracks in Mixbus and set their inputs. Set my drum bus OUTS in Sonar to an OUT and patched that to the in selected in Mixbus. It worked perfectly. This is very handy. I can even patch out of Sonar into Mixbus and back into Sonar. This is crazy and changes my whole setup.
 
There are limitations for sure but I like the early returns. 



Thanks for your reply Tommy.
 
As far as I can tell, my TonePort has two INs but only one OUT.
 
Ed (Bapu) suggested I use an additional soundcard to make it possible to route the audio from one application to the other. I'll give it a go using my Cakewalk VS-20 when I get the chance.
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/06 17:33:33 (permalink)
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 I have those other plugins, and while they're fine, MixBus goes far beyond what I've ever been able to achieve with them.  The way the whole mix seems to gel together and present itself as one piece of music, rather than a collection of tracks, is quite remarkable.  It's definitely not a subtle, transparent effect, which may not suit all tastes or genres -- I don't think I'd reach for MB for a modern dance-pop or metal record -- but if the soft-focus, organic sound appeals to you, it's a great addition to the toolbox.
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 




I have been using it a for a while now both to mix stems and master tracks with.  I don't fully agree with what Eddie is saying here.  He is implying what he says it is doing is permanent whereas I say you can control it to varying degrees to do what he is saying.  The very subtle side of it needs to be explored and heard.
 
Yes it can be very obvious and add a large dose of mixing console mojo for sure but it does not always have to either.  By being subtle with the use of the channel EQ's and dynamics you can control this to a certain extent.  Using the tape sims or not on buses and the main stereo buss is also important.
 
If you don't apply EQ or dynamics anywhere, use no tape sims and remove the limiters on the output use no tape sim and EQ on the output the mix/stems will pass through almost untouched except for very small amount of console emulation going on perhaps.  You will have clear focus, it will be less organic, more pristine.  I have done a few sessions with no limiters or tape sims being used and very small amounts of EQ. I like it in this mode.
 
As you start using these built in features, and you should in small doses at first, the sound of it becomes more apparent.  I have also had success with really working the dynamics, EQ and tape sims all at once and it puts out a different sound in that mode too.
 
As I mentioned in a previous post though it is not for some genres.  It handles pop fine but it did not like an aggressive hip hop track I created with an artist last year for some reason.  Even in its least effecting mode it still sounded better being mixed and mastered from Studio One directly.  I think S1 had the clearer/harder more robust sound that just suited this particular track a bit more.  Harrison can do quite a broad range of genres though and well.  I have mastered quite a few so I have heard it in action over quite a few different things.  Mostly it sounds great. (Other Hip Hop I have mastered in Harrison sounded excellent BTW. It depends on the hip hop itself)
 
You X3 guys have got some great built in artillery to perhaps create very similar sounding things especially after really understanding and learning to use those tools to their full extent. Studio One prefers to leave these things out and instead allow the user to design these things in themselves, I find Harrison is a great extra program to have around as a partner to a DAW that does not feature console emulation and analog sounding processing.  Klanghelm's SDDR is also very cool and when used the right way on buses etc can also do a fine job.  That takes a bit of experimenting.

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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/06 17:42:17 (permalink)
Crowned One
I finally got round to picking this up and installing it!!
 
Few quick questions for the long time users.
 
Do you just import your bus stems or individual tracks for a whole session?
Does it make a difference to the sound with more tracks?
Are you re-importing back into Sonar to master after you have the "Harrison sound" or finishing there?
 
Thanks
Stephen


 
Based on my experience with mixing one song so far, I found that it paid to import individual drum tracks separately, but grouped stems for things like guitars and vox worked fine.  Also I imported an FX stem from the original mix, having routed all FX buses to a single bus.  Within MixBus, I blended that track into the mix but also added a new FX bus with a room reverb plugin to get things to gel together even more.  Results were very good to my ears. 
 
It's certainly possible to finish the "mastered" track within MixBus, if your preferred mastering plugs are available in 32-bit form.  Unfortunately, I've been having problems with certain plugins such as IK's Mastering EQ.  The IK plugs seem to be unstable within MB (on my system -- YMMV), but others from Waves, UAD, Slate, ToneBoosters, etc. work great.  Have fun!
 
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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/06 17:53:23 (permalink)
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Eddie TX
 
 I have those other plugins, and while they're fine, MixBus goes far beyond what I've ever been able to achieve with them.  The way the whole mix seems to gel together and present itself as one piece of music, rather than a collection of tracks, is quite remarkable.  It's definitely not a subtle, transparent effect, which may not suit all tastes or genres -- I don't think I'd reach for MB for a modern dance-pop or metal record -- but if the soft-focus, organic sound appeals to you, it's a great addition to the toolbox.
 
Cheers,
Eddie



I have been using it a for a while now both to mix stems and master tracks with.  I don't fully agree with what Eddie is saying here.  He is implying what he says it is doing is permanent whereas I say you can control it to varying degrees to do what he is saying.  The very subtle side of it needs to be explored and heard.

 
Hi Jeff!  Yes, I didn't mean to imply that the "MixBus Effect" couldn't be controlled and dialed in to taste.  Certainly you can rein in the effect, but based on my very limited experience, there will still be a change to the sound just by running a mix thru MixBus.  Whether that change is appealing is another matter, of course.  :-)
 
Cheers,
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Re: Harrison Mixbus $19.95 2014/05/06 21:14:47 (permalink)
They have two of their plug-ins (GVerb+ reverb + 3D Triple Delay) on offer now for $10 (£6.13 + VAT):
Offer ends on May 10th.

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