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Hello and Goodbye
Just thought I would let you know I have been a long time user of Cakewalk since version 7 until sonar 1 I updated to the latest version sonar 2015 last year with its subscription model, I find is not for me so with great Sadness I have to say goodbye to Cakewalk/Sonar and the very friendly community that I have been privileged to be part of over the last 10 years or so, in parting I would like to wish people using Cakewalk/Sonar the best in what every you are doing and further wish you all much success with your musical adventures. Regards Videodv.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
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☄ Helpfulby charlyg 2016/03/28 22:41:36
Well if you're gonna to a drive by, "See me I'm leaving" post, This was done with the utmost class.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/25 19:24:32
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/03/27 05:44:04
Goodbye. We will keep the light on just in case.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/25 19:40:23
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Can you elaborate on the specific problem you have with the membership model? I'm sure Cakewalk would be interested to find out.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/25 22:29:56
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I'm kinda curious, but is it a requirement to post when you are leaving, or moving on to another DAW? Can someone please help me out? I am a little slow.. Thanks..
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/25 22:45:15
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☄ Helpfulby icontakt 2016/03/26 02:46:17
Oh, c'mon guys. Such an obvious troll. One post?
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 00:04:49
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"Aloha" would be a cooler title... no one thinks that bad, sorta reminiscent of "get your eye candy while it's hot, you'll never see it again!"
FWIW, I doubt many would plan 8 months in advance for a drive by, and nothing said was disrespectful.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 01:11:19
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
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☄ Helpfulby icontakt 2016/03/26 02:47:10
Hi all. First of all, the OP has only 1 post and he claimed that he has been with CW since version 7. That should ring a bell. But on the other hand, we should ask him the reason why he has decided to leave. And to all chime in and be sacarstic about it is, in a way, child like. And finally we have not seen the OP responding. Now that sounds like a real troll to me. So come on now OP, let's get back here and tell us what is really going on. dan le
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 04:03:14
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Wish when we "block" people their posts would just disappear...Clutter. Actually, a "hide" feature would be great...
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 08:05:29
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2016/03/28 12:15:27
jpetersen Oh, c'mon guys. Such an obvious troll. One post?
dan le Hi all. First of all, the OP has only 1 post and he claimed that he has been with CW since version 7. That should ring a bell.
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It took almost 8 months to post as a troll ?
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 09:11:28
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Snehankur
jpetersen Oh, c'mon guys. Such an obvious troll. One post?
dan le Hi all. First of all, the OP has only 1 post and he claimed that he has been with CW since version 7. That should ring a bell.
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It took almost 8 months to post as a troll ?
Point taken. I missed the join date. There seems to be a minor spate of driveby trolling, probably the same person each time, best to just ignore. But clearly not in this case.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 10:46:49
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To the original poster - should you happen to take a read through this thread at some point - 1) Since you had a year's worth of Sonar under the new model, your installed Sonar will continue to be able to run at its current maintenance point for forever (or until some future OS maintenance renders it no longer operative), so you can still use Sonar as you please. 2) I would think that as noted by Craig in an earlier post to the thread, it is a good bet that the Cakewalk staff would be interested in some detail as to what your issues are with Sonar, and who knows, maybe there is a way to resolve those issues for you, so it may well benefit you (and others) for you to explain what those issues are. 3) This was the nicest goodbye thread I can recall seeing - in any case, best of it all to you :) Bob Bone
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 10:53:56
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In the best tradition of tinfoil hat conspiracy theories, maybe a single troll created a bunch of accounts over the last year to use for drive-bys when needed? Dan
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 11:10:18
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I don't think he's a troll (I'm assuming it's a he). He's using a real email, is not hiding behind an anonymizing IP, and is giving props to the community instead of insulting it. Furthermore, the real "attention junkies" usually log in multiple times after their "goodbye" post, presumably to check in what they've stirred up. The OP logged in one hour after the initial post, and that was it. The apparent legitimacy is why I'm interested in the OP's opinion. However, there are two known people here who have created various alts over the years, and pull them out from time to time when they want to fulminate about how I am an Agent of Satan, and that the community consists solely of intolerant fanbois who conspire with Cakewalk to suppress any negative comments about SONAR. Goes with the territory...the internet is open to the public, and no one is required to actually read forum content before commenting on it
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
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Anderton ... fulminate about how I am an Agent of Satan...
Impossible. Everyone knows all AsOS play in drop C, and nothing in you discography reflects that tuning
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 11:53:15
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I own and use three different DAWS. Protools 10, Presonus and Cakewalk. All are great in their own right and have unique features. I am sure their are other users on here with many more. If a user wants to express his frustration that's his right but jumping up and down and saying "he's a troll or a big bad user of another DAW besides Sonar that wrong". Calkwalk said somewhere only a small amount of users are on the forum? Live and let live it's about the music.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 12:43:47
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☄ Helpfulby charlyg 2016/03/28 22:45:19
fitzj I own and use three different DAWS. Protools 10, Presonus and Cakewalk. All are great in their own right and have unique features. I am sure their are other users on here with many more. If a user wants to express his frustration that's his right but jumping up and down and saying "he's a troll or a big bad user of another DAW besides Sonar that wrong". Calkwalk said somewhere only a small amount of users are on the forum? Live and let live it's about the music.
The problem is there have been a bunch of drive-by troll postings in the past (generally promoting Reaper) so people are naturally suspicious...once burned, twice shy. But the "I'm leaving" posts do seem kind of self-indulgent if they don't contribute anything, which is why I was hoping he would elaborate on his problem. I've often stated that I use SONAR for multitrack projects, Ableton Live for live performance, and Studio One for album assembly. No one gets on my case about it.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 12:55:28
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"I've often stated that I use SONAR for multitrack projects, Ableton Live for live performance, and Studio One for album assembly. No one gets on my case about it." To Anderton--- You should be using Sonar for live its very stable + hot live inputs with effects.I tried it for these last few months ,very happy. Peace
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 13:05:51
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Actually what I said isn't 100% accurate, because I do use SONAR live with Gibson's HD6X digital guitar to host signal processors for hex processing in rock-oriented gigs. The reason I use Live for the DJ-style performances is two-fold...I have live performance projects for it going back to 2001, and I don't want to take the time to convert. Also, I have dedicated hardware controllers that are a great match and simplify performing. I do use SONAR for 95% of what I do, but Live has a nice niche covered. However...a BIG problem for me is that Live won't record solo button presses in a performance, which is a technique that I use a lot. Ableton says it would be almost impossible to implement this. I started using Live in the first place because it could record my performances easily but this basically makes that aspect fairly useless. At some point I'm going to see if I can do this with the Matrix view; if I can, then I'll be developing my new live projects in SONAR.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 15:56:06
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Anderton ..... However, there are two known people here who have created various alts over the years, and pull them out from time to time when they want to fulminate about how I am an Agent of Satan, and that the community consists solely of intolerant fanbois who conspire with Cakewalk to suppress any negative comments about SONAR. Goes with the territory...the internet is open to the public, and no one is required to actually read forum content before commenting on it 
I don't know, I think it's your "Agent of Satan" connection that brings an air of mystique to your wise and helpful advice. Otherwise it would just be dull and dry. Oh and btw, I missed the last fanboy meeting with Cakewalk about the latest techniques to suppress any negative comments. Hopefully someone can catch me up.  And I just posted today, what could be seen as a negative comment about a crashing problem I'm having with Sonar. But that was just subterfuge to throw them off track.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/26 16:40:45
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☄ Helpfulby kevinwal 2016/03/27 23:47:38
Sorry folks, but this time my heart has been grievously broken. Words fail me. As soon as I hit 'Submit Post' I am going to take an axe to my computer and destroy it, simply because it has SPLAT installed on it. I may then, depending on how I feel, burn down my house and maybe kill my dog too. He likes Sonar, but he also pisses on my sofa. Maybe it is all because of Sonar that my living room smells like dog pee. Audio-ose.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/27 23:36:12
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Leee Oh and btw, I missed the last fanboy meeting with Cakewalk about the latest techniques to suppress any negative comments. Hopefully someone can catch me up. 
You didn't miss much, just the posting of the Hounding Users With Legitimate But Long-Ignored Issues schedule. It'll be in your inbox soon.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
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☄ Helpfulby jude77 2016/03/28 14:24:20
To be honest I still don't understand the negativity regarding the "new model". I've also been a user since way back and just deal with the subscription like I used to purchase the new version. It means that effectively nothing has changed for me - other than getting regular updates and an extremely stable product.
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/28 06:38:09
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IMO the OP was just a polite way of letting us know that the poster finds the subscription model very inconvenient. I saw no typical signs of trolling, and Andertons post #16 made the case. If I can afford a new rig in this life, which will require an update of the DAW as well, I must say I'm somewhat reluctant/suspicious to the subscription thing as well. Reading the forum it seems every update, in addition to bringing new features, gets something messed up as well. As if SONAR is never in an "OK, now it works" state. :o) I understand it's just an impression given by the forum discussion, I do realise I can simply buy, install and forget about it. Then again, I'd prefer staying in 8.5, but it may simply not be possible.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/28 10:54:57
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☄ Helpfulby robbyk 2016/03/28 11:34:48
Kalle Rantaaho ... I'd prefer staying in 8.5, but it may simply not be possible.
Relax. One of the benefits of Microsoft's "subscription model" is that there is now an implicit promise that applications will not suddenly stop working. Supposedly, there will not be a Windows 11, just a continuously-evolving W10. Imagine the uproar if one morning after an automatic update, popular non-Microsoft applications started failing around the world. I think MS is going out of their way to preserve backward compatibility. For the most part, anything that ran under Windows 7 still runs under Windows 10. That includes SONAR 8.5.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/28 10:58:00
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What's with all these "I don't like Cakewalk/Sonar/this forum, so I'm leaving" posts lately? Why do people feel the need to tell anyone else that they are choosing to use another product? Seriously, does anyone care? Not meaning to sound harsh, but don't these people have better things to do? Like getting on with learning their newly chosen DAW? Sonar is not perfect, but news flash, .......... NEITHER IS ANY OTHER DAW!! Or ANY software product, for that matter. Go check out other software user forums. Full of threads about how the product doesn't work properly. Like other users here, I've got many. many years into using Sonar. Unless Cakewalk quits making Sonar, or they totally "F" it up, I don't have the time, nor do I wish to spend the time learning another DAW. Others may have their reasons for using more than one and I have dabbled with others, but I usually find that Sonar does what I need it to do. Plugins, ...... now THAT'S a different story! Or weakness ........ I may not be a serious power user like some, but I've always had success with Sonar. Any problems I can't figure out on my own, I've always been able to get helpful advice and guidance on this forum. Sorry, getting off the soapbox now. Back to work .......
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/28 11:07:08
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Kalle Rantaaho IMO the OP was just a polite way of letting us know that the poster finds the subscription model very inconvenient. I saw no typical signs of trolling, and Andertons post #16 made the case. Actually, I stand corrected. He has logged in again since the one log-in after his initial post. Oh well. Guess he couldn't resist seeing the results of his starting the thread. Nor did he answer my question. If I can afford a new rig in this life, which will require an update of the DAW as well, I must say I'm somewhat reluctant/suspicious to the subscription thing as well. Reading the forum it seems every update, in addition to bringing new features, gets something messed up as well. As if SONAR is never in an "OK, now it works" state. :o) No software ever is, I even have issues with Microsoft Word. But beware the "I just installed Newburyport, and my microwave doesn't work any more" posts. Also quite a few of them are people discovering some issue they hadn't noticed before that has nothing to do with the update. I feel a lot of people are overthinking this, the solution is very simple: 1. Install the update. 2. If you don't encounter problems, keep using it. 3. If you encounter problems new to that update, roll back to the previous one. The only time I was tempted to roll back was when upsampling was introduced and there were problems rendering projects with tempo changes if upsampling was enabled. But it was fixed IIRC two weeks later. During those two weeks, I simply didn't render projects with tempo changes if upsampling was enabled.
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Re: Hello and Goodbye
2016/03/28 11:13:34
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2016/03/30 21:30:23
joel77 What's with all these "I don't like Cakewalk/Sonar/this forum, so I'm leaving" posts lately? Why do people feel the need to tell anyone else that they are choosing to use another product?
First off, some of them are from the same troll. Second, here's the Mayo clinic's definition of narcissism: "Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others."
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