TomHelvey
Now I want to get a copy of Reason to play with :)

You can download Reason. In demo mode it does everything except while you can save documents, you can't open them. 
 
Reason Essentials is less expensive, but doesn't offer anything significant that Sonar doesn't already have.

Anderton

Mosvalve
Rewire is greyed out in Sonar. 
 
Craig, I am running Sonar 64bit. I found rewire.dll in c:\program files(86)\common files\Propellerheadsoftware\rewire. This file version is 1.8.1.40960 dated 2-17-14 and I assume this is a 32bit version. In c:\program files\common files\Propellerheadsoftware\rewire is empty but there is another folder called Rex with a Rex Shared Library.dll file in it. The link you provided contains version 1.7 and tells me when I run the installer that I already have a newer version of the file. I cannot find a 64bit version of the rewire.dll on Propellerhead website. Studio One finds Waves and Melodyne rewire when it loads and like I mentioned I used to see Waves rewire in Sonar. I'm stumped at this point. I think the 64bit version gets installed by Reason. I'm assuming when I installed X3 64bit that the 64bit rewire would be installed to but apparently not. Any help is appreciated. I would really like to try rewire.

On my computer a 64-bit version is in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Propellerhead Software\ReWire\ReWire.dll. I'm going to guess that's where Sonar looks for it, because you don't have it and Sonar can't ReWire.
 
I can't find a download either, so at this point I'm grasping at straws and maybe someone else will have an idea of what to do...I think maybe the 64-bit version should have been installed with Sonar. Perhaps doing a minimal Sonar re-install will give you the 64-bit dll.

Or, try this: I searched on ReWire.dll and eventually, found a bunch of ReWire.dll files sprinkled all over my computer...in the Live 9 Suite Redist folder, C:\Windows\SysWOW64, C:\Program Files\Common Files\Propellerhead Software\ReWire, ProgramFiles\Waves\ReWire, Samplitude, Sony Acid, etc. If one of these is the 64-bit 1.8.4 version, try copying it into C:\Program Files\Common Files\Propellerhead Software\ReWire, re-boot, and maybe Sonar will see it.

I found a 64bit version in my Waves folder and copied it and now rewire is no longer greyed out. Two things show up under rewire. Melodyne and Waves rewire. Now hopefully I can understand the tutorial you provided and learn how to use it. thanks for the help.

Did it ever work properly?

I end up buying notion5 after noticing a few guys in this forum using it. I owned a 2003 version of Finale that could only work with win2000 and was left hanging dry when my computers go win 7. I was entitled to cross grade to notion 5 for about 64 bucks. That's half the price to upgrade to finale 2014. Thanks Mr Anderton for mentioning this to me. I will be trying to rewire notion to sonar soon.

Craig, I read your article and it is excellent, as always.  Today, I don't think I need Rewire, but you never know what tomorrow will bring so this is great information.  Thanks.

Hi,
I tried Rewire with Sibelius and Sonar X3 Producer a few weeks ago, but have no luck. I tried everything I found here in the forum and in the internet, but the "Rewire-Button" in Sonar was alway greyed out. It was the small version of Sibelius (Sibelius First), which also supports Rewire. Maybe Notion is a better choice, but is is not available in german, or am I wrong?
 
Kind regards, Timo

Timo Finkbeiner
Hi,
I tried Rewire with Sibelius and Sonar X3 Producer a few weeks ago, but have no luck. I tried everything I found here in the forum and in the internet, but the "Rewire-Button" in Sonar was alway greyed out. It was the small version of Sibelius (Sibelius First), which also supports Rewire. Maybe Notion is a better choice, but is is not available in german, or am I wrong?
 
Kind regards, Timo

Maybe the issue is that ReWire is specific to 32- and 64-bit systems. Both Sibelius AND X3 must be either 32-bit or 64-bit, with the appropriate ReWire dll in the system.

TomHelvey
Just curious. Why would you want to rewire Notion? I can understand Live and Reason, they have lots of toys.
Does it have better sounds or is the notation so superior that you can express things in it that you can't  in Sonar?
 

I am asking myself the same question. 
 

Ok, my preliminary report. I had only played with Notion a 3 hours. This is what I find.
Sample Tank3 can't load samples in Notion5. A visit to presonus forum revealed that this is a windows only problem. The mac users are having a party ( just a figure of speech).
To add insult yo injury, the 32 bit version of Notion5 wouldn't load Miroslav Philharmonik vst. 
So Notion5 and Ikmultimedia doesn't seem to work together at least for now. I can't use Miroslav Philharmonik either way. 
 
Back to the Rewire topic, I had tried rewire notion5 into X3 and it works. First step that I missed initially was to enable rewire inside Notion first. The bundled sounds that came with Notion5 are quite good. However, I am not sure if there are different articulation available in the orchestra sounds. 
Notion can send up to 32 channels of audio via rewire.
 
One interesting feature of Notion5 is the Ntempo. I can control it's playback tempo in realtime by tapping a qwerty keayboard. I can imagine playing piano live with a second person 'conducting' the midi orchestra.  
 
 

One question for rewiring people using Notion or Sibelius. Is this possible?

1Compose midi data in sonar.
2 Export xml.
3 Import Xml with no problem.
4 Play midi data from Notion into Sonar.
5 tracks in sonar play the vsts and use keyswitches?
6 Mix final audio in Sonar.

Is it possible??

musichoo
Sonar does not save in xml format.

 
The Producer version has been able to export MusicXML since X2 but cannot import MusicXML.

musichoo

Anderton

musichoo
Sonar does not save in xml format.

 
The Producer version has been able to export MusicXML since X2 but cannot import MusicXML.. 

Thanks. I stand corrected. Didn't know that Sonar X3 could do that. 

You're not alone   I think that might be because only the Producer version supports it.

I did a search for xml in sonar's help file and I got nothing. Talking about hidden features. I am glad I learned something new. I had done some short orchestration pieces in sonar. Can't wait to xml them into notion5.

I'm using Bidule as a live performance VST Host and thought that if I Rewired it into Sonar (Platinum) that I could bring the audio into Sonar for recording. Being new to both Bidule and Rewire, I'm not at all sure how that works. Sonar sees Bidule as a Rewire Device and when inserted, creates either 8 Synth Tracks or 16 MIDI Tracks, but NOT the 2 audio tracks described by the online help/documentation. When I start Bidule I get a message "Waiting for Rewire Master Application to start audio processing" and it just hangs there. Neither the Propellorhead Blog nor the Bidule Forum have anything to say on the subject, and every online example uses Reason. I haven't tried loading Bidule as a VST yet, as it can't be used without a license for the standalone version, and getting this to work is the main reason for using Bidule, since I already have a licensed copy of Cantibile, which works quite well but isn't Rewire-able. Any ideas on how to get audio from Bidule into Sonar, with or without Rewire?
 

I use rewire with Reason all the time for everything from Reason synths to effects. I also have Reason's Drum Takes that I use a lot. It's another set of tools to me. I would like to see what you could come up with that many of us have probably not considered with rewire.