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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/06/16 11:49:02
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/06/16 12:23:41
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I don't do competitions or contests. But I will be happy to be on the panel of judges if asked.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/06/16 16:50:05
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Would really like to try 'Drivin' by Steve Dior band (someone at Cakewalk recorded it in Sonar if I'm correct). ITS SUCH A KICKASS SONG !!!
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/06/17 01:58:58
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Keep it coming folks. Some good ideas here. How about we start with a song format. A theme/genre, so many tracks, vocal, bass , drums and synth whatever. Start with a few tracks to which the members add just a single track. When we have the required number of tracks and variations thereof, close the intake of tracks and start the mix part. Entrants pick from the available tracks and mix to taste. The best mix wins. That ensures there's an opportunity for creativity and to show off your Sonar skills. Lots of details to work out but I'm up for it.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/06/17 10:13:06
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Love this idea! (Although I too would have a difficult time setting aside my Pro-Q 2 if we stuck with Sonar-only plugins, but that certainly makes for a more interesting competition, not to mention a level playing field!) Maybe raw tracks for a different genre every month, or whatever timeline is established? And Olympics-style Gold/Silver/Bronze awards for the top three vote-getters so the community can see how differently the same tracks could be mixed by different people? I also like the idea of adding an element of arrangement. Maybe for each song, there are two categories: one being a straight-up mix of only the tracks provided, and another allowing for additional instrumentation, background vox, etc. Anyway, again, great idea. I definitely agree that some friendly competition will help remind the community of why we're here in the first place - to make music - as opposed to the tendency to get caught up in discussions about bugs, missing features, etc. Definitely going to be tracking this thread!!
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/06/18 18:58:42
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+1 to everything. I've done plenty remixes before, but I'd love to participate here. I also agree with the stock plugins aspect - let's see just how creative people can be using what SONAR delivers.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/06/26 04:41:10
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Whoops! I accidentally bumped into this thread while I was looking around.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/06/26 04:47:25
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mudgel Whoops! I accidentally bumped into this thread while I was looking around.
I am all for it, Mike. I think it is a great idea.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/09 13:48:29
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A couple of weeks has passed with no comments so before the idea dies completely I thought I'd resurrect this thread and give others a chance to comment.
If enough people contribute to the thread I'll do what I can to make a mix contest of some sorts a reality for the Sonar members.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/09 13:52:09
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I have to spend all my learning time using the stuff I need to work on... and I'm too new to be much competition. You guys have at it!
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/09 16:03:54
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I still think it is an excellent idea  And as someone earlier in this thread said, it would / should be stock plugins only.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/09 16:55:07
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I like the idea. It will bring the community closer. @ Mudgel Although not my speciality or core business I can design webpages. How about a place where I could place,dump,upload my songs that could be remixed, mixed or tweaked to the liking of the community like a remix place.... For instance Ilan Bluestone (Cause he is the only cakewalk celeb I know, sorry relative new user) would dump a song and every body who wants works on it. Who knows mayby a workable remix would be produced by somebody here. And ofcourse visaversa. I think that prizes would be secondary then... or would it gain less traction this way?
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/09 16:55:15
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Have fun, think I'll pass, too busy working on original material......
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/09 17:03:24
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/09 19:25:11
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I like the idea so how we get started?
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/09 19:43:42
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I guess we turn towards Craig and startup with one of his songs..... If we gain attention it would be worth giving prizes away for 3rd parties I think.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/09 19:58:34
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It is important to define what remix actually means. In one sense it means everyone just remixes the tracks or stems so everyone ends up with the same piece of music but mixed differently. Or the real meaning of remix is a totally new piece of music is created out of the provided samples, tracks or stems etc..(as per Indaba Music remix comps) And the further away from the provided material the better. ie a total composition type of comp. There should be no restrictions either on what you use and how either. (at least for the new piece of music vibe) So what it is going to be.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/09 23:53:38
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As per my initial thread, I'm gauging interest and getting ideas not starting a remix competition. judging by some of the posts it may be something entirely different. There's only been about 25 different users in this thread.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/10 01:06:53
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Hey Mike. I am only mentioning this because I got caught with an Indaba remix comp. I spent a LOT of time on an entry a while ago. I mainly remixed the track and changed it only slightly here and there but found out later that is not what they meant or wanted. It is good to clarify this earlier rather than later. Either way would be fine. Good idea though.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/10 02:08:42
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My band did a remix contest and gave a $500 cash prize away as well as nationwide and beyond DJ record pool promotion and promo and grats from us personally of course. What up CakesterZ? This is a genius idea. You should #DoIt Jimmy Landry, is this not a genius idea? Cakewalk remix contest, at lest annually? #GENIUS LJ
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/10 02:12:29
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We had over 70 remix submissions. We did not expect that. A lot of them obviously spent a big chunk of time on it. Yeah, don't slightly change a track on a remix people. You gotta flip it to be sick. Different chord progression, tempo change if you feel it, original sounds, get crazy with it or just a new musical take. That copy ish is not a remix. That is a new mix of the same mix. lol Lance
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/10 19:28:10
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So we should all decided on a good head banging tune and remix it into an EDM track...
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/10 19:51:47
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Jeff Evans It is important to define what remix actually means. In one sense it means everyone just remixes the tracks or stems so everyone ends up with the same piece of music but mixed differently. Or the real meaning of remix is a totally new piece of music is created out of the provided samples, tracks or stems etc..(as per Indaba Music remix comps) And the further away from the provided material the better. ie a total composition type of comp.
That is a good point, though I think I disagree about "real meaning". It's more that it means different things to different people. Myself and a couple of DJs I know have done a whole heap of remixes under the name "Club Clique". And our thing is very much the total remake. To the point of even chopping lyrics around to change the conceptual thrust of the song, in a couple of cases. And new chord progressions, new instrumentation, the works. Generally, we've been commissioned by people who knew that's what we were going to do. I think we've had about 20 released, and about five knocked back. But the ones that were knocked back were always on a "my god, what have you done to our song?" basis, and those people then went on to release more traditional remixes where it's the same record but with a bigger kick drum and a longer instrumental break. Which is cool, not knocking it at all. But yeah, it depends who you're talking to. We had one act who'd made this electro 80s synth pop kinda thing, but with a brilliant soul-y lead vocal, and we re-worked it as a Chic-type disco thing, which we thought they'd love. And they were horrified.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/10 19:53:12
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Following from that, and more pertinent to the matter at hand - Since this is a community thing, and not a commission, or even formal contest with a ranking, I think it would be interesting if we didn't define what we meant by "remix", and let everyone run with their own idea. I reckon we'd get all kinds of fascinating stuff out of that.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/10 20:00:12
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If it is not substantially different, that just defeats the purpose. There is a lot of lame commercially released remixes out there where they really did not hardly change anything. Who wants that instead of the original? Not It. Boring and pretty much useless. A real remix in the DJ world is a different version using at least some of the original stems, sometimes just vocals and sometimes just a sample sounding part of vocals, stuff like that, not another mix of the same stuff. That is just lame to do that. I have heard it multiple times. I am like, why did you even bother because you added or changed little to nothing. It's like washing a shirt again when it is already clean. lol Lance
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/10 20:06:20
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I disagree. I think there are really interesting things that can be done with only small changes. There's a DJ called Danny Krivit who was around in the disco days and is still at it. And he used to do really simple edits, extending bits, shortening bits, not much else. But they're remarkable, to my ears. He's an absolute master at making dancefloor versions of songs, with really small and subtle alterations. That's an art in itself.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/10 20:08:05
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☄ Helpfulby John T 2015/07/10 20:14:58
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/10 20:08:31
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Or to give a more modern example, there's Dimitri From Paris, who does a similar thing. This doesn't contain a single sound or note that isn't on the original. But I think he's done something amazing with that material. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaHp4i2mCdE
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/10 20:09:47
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This is fast becoming the Chic thread. We should have a Chic thread, actually. Those records sound like they're carved out of diamond. Amazing production.
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Re: How about a remix competition?
2015/07/10 20:31:09
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Agree 100% John (think it was famous Bob Clearmountain mixing Chic). totally don't want to say anything bad about the analog era productions, just thinking alone how they did is incredible.. But when listening back some old songs sometimes the mix or mastering isn't really that great as I thought (to modern standards) but probably the music/performance totally makes up for it. One thing back then that helped I think, was that the engineers left plenty of headroom always....so the music really stayed alive and cut through. At this point I think a lot of the 'analog sound' people look for is actually 'just leaving it alone' and having plenty headroom for the music. 70's + 80's music is just awesome and we don't know really why haha..
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