Adobe bought Syntrillium in May of 2003 and Adobe Audition was released on 18 August 2003. It had bug fixes but no new features, and was essentially a more polished Cool Edit Pro 2.1. I'd expect Gibson/Tascam to do a similar thing once they get their name all over the program and packaging.

chuckebaby

Guitarmech111

doncolga

Guitarmech111
X2a could have been in muliple patches?

Good grief ya'll are cranky!..is it a full moon?
 
Would it have made you all happier if they'd just divide up the A update into lets say...10 separate updates?...would that make ya'll feel better?  Of course it would...you got 10 free updates...those bakers sure are busy!
 

Guitarmech111
Is that because of poorly engineered software not meeting the customers needs and expectations? I wouldn't brag on that.

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.  I'm sure the software is doing just fine for LOTS of users.

That many fixes tells me that they did not design or code the product correctly in the time given to form a new release with the end user desired operability and stability. Whoever planned and tested it, failed IMO.
 
I test program software for a living. If any of the products I have worked with had over 250 fixes in it for a single patch, that would exemplify failure in the prior development and testing cycle. They used to have a robust beta team that had a magnitude of environments. Maybe that is not so any more.
My point, as some people may or may not realize, The end user should think that there was time to get it right the first time. 250 fixes in a single patch just begs to have regression issues on stuff that did work. Wiyhout a follow up patch, those regressions STILL FAIL. Unforunately the cash inflow is more important than pushng out a schedule.

This is not the way Cakewalk used to do it. I am dissapointed in the current state of the product. I don't really care what others think about it since my money paid for it and my money paid for a sub par product that has stability issues on my machine and with my work flow. I have called TS a few times to help me out. They have, but there are issues that I will not see fixed unless I pay for an upgrade as I understand it.
 
I may just download the demo before upgrading unless they decide to give a steeper discount for X3 to people who have called in issues that TS/DEV deem errors with X2a.

im sorry but im having a hard time believing you do test software for a living because if you did you would have some answers for why your having issues and not just spiting out issues your having.
you'd also know that a fix (250 fixes) can mean a lot of things, like when you re-code one feature you need to fix 10 others.
I also think your being a bit childish. here it is cakewalks big day for their release of the new x3 and your here first thing in the morning the day it goes on sale.
your upset because others are excited to use a new product they have been having great success with.
they cant wait to see the new features and dive in to a software that worked great for them in x2.
 
So you've had to ask yourself a few times now, why are others having success but im having issues?
there's a conflict going on somewhere and rather than track it down its easier to come here on cakewalks site and post your displeasure in hopes of ruining any sales for their new product?
I don't get it.
 
and if you think the: "issues that you will not see fixed unless you pay for an upgrade as you understand it"
im not sure where you got that info from but if you cant be productive in the last version (X2) what on earth makes you think you can be with X3 ????
 
if these are show stoppers (a you've said) I don't think a new version is going to help.
if they are just annoying little things that your making in to big things, then yes im guessing youll be happy.
I myself think x2 had some annoying things about it and I hope they are fixed but surely don't think they are bad enough to start a thread out of jealousy  
 
 

chuckebaby

Guitarmech111

doncolga

Guitarmech111
X2a could have been in muliple patches?

Good grief ya'll are cranky!..is it a full moon?
 
Would it have made you all happier if they'd just divide up the A update into lets say...10 separate updates?...would that make ya'll feel better?  Of course it would...you got 10 free updates...those bakers sure are busy!
 

Guitarmech111
Is that because of poorly engineered software not meeting the customers needs and expectations? I wouldn't brag on that.

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.  I'm sure the software is doing just fine for LOTS of users.

That many fixes tells me that they did not design or code the product correctly in the time given to form a new release with the end user desired operability and stability. Whoever planned and tested it, failed IMO.
 
I test program software for a living. If any of the products I have worked with had over 250 fixes in it for a single patch, that would exemplify failure in the prior development and testing cycle. They used to have a robust beta team that had a magnitude of environments. Maybe that is not so any more.
My point, as some people may or may not realize, The end user should think that there was time to get it right the first time. 250 fixes in a single patch just begs to have regression issues on stuff that did work. Wiyhout a follow up patch, those regressions STILL FAIL. Unforunately the cash inflow is more important than pushng out a schedule.

This is not the way Cakewalk used to do it. I am dissapointed in the current state of the product. I don't really care what others think about it since my money paid for it and my money paid for a sub par product that has stability issues on my machine and with my work flow. I have called TS a few times to help me out. They have, but there are issues that I will not see fixed unless I pay for an upgrade as I understand it.
 
I may just download the demo before upgrading unless they decide to give a steeper discount for X3 to people who have called in issues that TS/DEV deem errors with X2a.

im sorry but im having a hard time believing you do test software for a living because if you did you would have some answers for why your having issues and not just spiting out issues your having.
you'd also know that a fix (250 fixes) can mean a lot of things, like when you re-code one feature you need to fix 10 others.
I also think your being a bit childish. here it is cakewalks big day for their release of the new x3 and your here first thing in the morning the day it goes on sale.
your upset because others are excited to use a new product they have been having great success with.
they cant wait to see the new features and dive in to a software that worked great for them in x2.
 
So you've had to ask yourself a few times now, why are others having success but im having issues?
there's a conflict going on somewhere and rather than track it down its easier to come here on cakewalks site and post your displeasure in hopes of ruining any sales for their new product?
I don't get it.
 
and if you think the: "issues that you will not see fixed unless you pay for an upgrade as you understand it"
im not sure where you got that info from but if you cant be productive in the last version (X2) what on earth makes you think you can be with X3 ????
 
if these are show stoppers (a you've said) I don't think a new version is going to help.
if they are just annoying little things that your making in to big things, then yes im guessing youll be happy.
I myself think x2 had some annoying things about it and I hope they are fixed but surely don't think they are bad enough to start a thread out of jealousy  
 
 

cclarry

Glyn Barnes
Cakewalk always had a one year development cycle, that changed with X1, now its back again.
 
A business has to maintain a revenue stream, for the consumer its a two edge sword but if the company goes bust while putting out free updates nobody wins.

That is true to a certain extent...if you consider 8.5 a "Tick" upgrade, which it wasn't...
but they also didn't hesitate to "release" repairs or communicate about it as they have
currently...That put 2 years between 8 and X1, and maybe that's why they jumped
the 9....

No one knows better then I that a company has to maintain it's revenue stream...
THAT is why they develop OTHER products as well...so that the "S P I C E" continues to 
flow...

From what I see, this upgrade is AGAIN a plethora of new 3rd party plugins...
more royalties to pay out for Sonar that are passed on to the customer...
and bug fixes and things that SHOULD have been included in X2....and, as
I stated...I don't need any more 3rd party plugins...I have too many already..
so "Most" current users of Producer really aren't gaining anything...other then
what they should have already had in the first place...

Biggest thing here is VST 3 support...that's a big tick off the list...so, I'm
grateful for that...even though I, personally, don't even need it, I know MANY
who do...

If it were a $50 upgrade...I'd be at the gate...but not this time...not at $150...
 
I'll bide my time and save some cash....and aggravation...and let them get it
worked out....then upgrade...only makes sense to do so...I'll just wait for the
HALF-OFF sale...

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What he said Excellent Point

leebut
$49 is for the what was the 'Essential' version, which is only a few dollars more than the last X2 Essential sale price. Seems that X3 has started off as a sale.

Guitarmech111
I feel like Cakewalk is extorting the X2a users who don't have the cash to upgrade and get working what should have already worked...
 
I will admit that X3a looks good to a certain degree, but I would rather have X2b.

leebut
 
Not if you don't need all the plugins. Buying things you don't need is a waste of money. I'm a narrator, so all I need is two tracks and maybe reverb and delay. Paying for Producer would be overkill and a waste of money that I could put towards other equipment.