Hi everyone, (WOW), this really seems like a great place from what I have read. I bought the ARC system on craigslist, but it was useless after 10 days cause the previous owner failed to give me the ID number with name. It didn't ask for any private info, just name and ID. In any case I was able to enjoy it for 10 days and now I left with a pretty box with mic and software. That a bummer!, Tried calling the seller but phone disconnected. Does anyone have any suggestions?, thanks have have a great weekend.

www.ikmultimedia.com
I don't know if they support transfer of ownership/license or not, you'll have to find out from them.

well.  no, but the mic is an omni measurement mic.  it might work ok for some things, but only if you need an omni mic.

I"m not surprised that they won't help you if you didn't get the correct name and registration information.  I don't know IK's resale policy but they might allow transfer to you IF the guy selling it had done it correctly.  obviously he must not have.

I always thought it was my ears man. Over the years, this struggle lasted .... I need to try to listen to the wise in my back fixed frequency of different systems control room constantly. I was fooling myself. How can I hear, this is not the beginning of the room where it was jacked up, I swear, I'm not elegant plug-ins to this arc is not the spokes person I'm trying to convince you or anyone else to try.

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aarenpoul


I always thought it was my ears man. Over the years, this struggle lasted .... I need to try to listen to the wise in my back fixed frequency of different systems control room constantly. I was fooling myself. How can I hear, this is not the beginning of the room where it was jacked up, I swear, I'm not elegant plug-ins to this arc is not the spokes person I'm trying to convince you or anyone else to try.

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I'm looking for the Google language tool that will translate this guys post.

He's just a spammer, Roger.  the entire reason for his post is to get his link in the forum for you to click on for the "dell coupons" (which I would not recommend, BTW).

Hi Kroneborge,

You can do almost the same thing that ARC does with Ozone 4 and a $99 test mic. Ozone 4's EQ has a snapshot feature that allows you to adjust a snapshot of an audio signal to flat, basically the same thing ARC is doing ... the graphics even look the same.

Bub

hello all,
thanks for a very informative review and thread.
i ordered some auralex foam treatment and the arc system and they are both being delivered as i type (i hope). i intend to pick up a six pack of 703 and some fabric to make traps for the corners. i am hoping that the combination of acoustic/electronic treatment will mitigate the less than ideal monitoring environment in my bedroom studio without having panels hanging from everywhere.

while reading other threads about the arc system, one user said that he had quite a bit of confusion about a large dip at 6khz in the arc's analysis and after rearranging his speakers and remeasuring the room a couple of times, that he noticed the same large dip at 6khz existed on his pre-amp's freq response graph. he then determined that his pre-amp was the culprit not the room. he switched pre-amps and the analysis straightened right out.

ik recommends using the cleanest pre-amp that is available. for me, that would probably be the on board pre's of the v-studio 100, but i do not know if there is a frequency response graph available so i can at least see what curves the pre will be responsible for.
should i be concerned about this or is that pre-amp adequate?

edit:
according to some info that i got in the v-studio 100 forum, the preamp's frequency response is +0/-3 db at any point between 20-20khz.

thanks again,
matt

jbow


There are some GREAT deals on the ARC bundled with T-Racks 3 Deluxe and Classic Studio Reverb... the price would be great for the ARCsystem alone. It is on Amazon for 369 bucks..
http://www.amazon.com/IK-Multimedia-Engineering-Tool-Kit/dp/B004AAEY6W/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308013852&sr=8-1-fkmr1
If I am missing something here, tell me, but this looks like a real good deal.

Julien

that is a nice package price.
arc is selling for $249 for the crossgrade price from any ik multimedia product - miroslav, any of the t-racks singles, sample tank, etc.
you can find that price at ik's site and one of the music store's on-line site. you can get your favorite company to price match either.

LOL so this thread still lives? I'll give you guys my take for what it's worth. First off though...Krone, I never got much bad feedback on my mixes either. I mean I knew they weren't perfect and still aren't, but the main thing that ARC stopped was the time it took me to mix before. All that second guessing etc...completely removed from my world and what I mix is what I hear everywhere. To be honest bro, I'd take ARC over the UAD 2 any day. The reason being...if getting the UAD card will only improve the quality of my audio and not stop the time it takes me to mix etc, it's not something I need to worry about. To me in this field, the most important thing is to hear what you are supposed to hear so you can make the right calls. I can record and mix a tune in Sonar using all the stock Sonar plugs and be happy if ARC is allowing me to make the right calls. Without ARC, I'd seriously be lost. So if your mixes take you a few days or a few weeks to be happy with, you may want to grab this little gem. I'd rather someone take my UAD stuff away than take my ARC away. But that's just me. :)

Now as for my situation with ARC since I visited this thread last, it's still plugin of the decade for me and it's made such a difference in my world, I really can't even begin to explain it. Everyone that listens to stuff in my control room loves what they hear and this happens on several different monitors that were "ARC'd". The best thing is, what we mix in here, sounds like it should everywhere.

I must say one thing that I'm pretty upset about. I filled out a support ticket over a year ago that is yet to be answered and dealt with. Later versions of ARC will not hold their settings in Sonar. Meaning, you load up a correction, it's there, you see it, it works perfectly. You save that project, close Sonar down, reload the project, press play, and you are uncorrected. Look at ARC in your master bus, the right correction is loaded, but it is not playing back properly. You click on your correction to reload it, and it works. This must be done each time a project is loaded. The fix is to go back to version 1.1.1 and it works perfectly and saves corrections within projects. My support ticket is still open and I'm pretty upset that no one has addressed this or fixed it by now. They are aware of the problem yet it remains to this day, unfixed.

Now, I've also compiled a shorter set-up for you guys that may be looking to get this working correctly. Try this if you have been unsuccessful with ARC and see if it makes a difference for you. Every person I have turned this information on to, has used it with perfect results. Here it is in case you're interested.

ARC pre-prep:



First, make sure your monitors are set up in a perfect triangle. As many feet apart from each other as they are from your favorite listening sweet spot. This is important. Next, make sure they are not up against the wall. I know that some of us don’t have a choice when in a bed room or spare room, but try to be as far away from the wall as possible without losing too much of your space.



If you have a sub: If you have a sub, listen to a CD you know and love. Mix enough of the sub in to where it just adds some low end thump. Be careful where you put the sub frequency selection. Most rooms are going to need 75Hz to 85Hz brought in using a sub. Sweep through the frequencies of your sub with the sub turned up pretty good so you can hear where it is accentuating. Once you find the place you like, back the sub level down so it just gives you nice low end and compliments the CD you are listening to, to where you say “yep, that sounds fantastic to me!” Also, make sure no settings on your monitors are being enhanced. Some monitors have eq controls on the back of them for boosting or cutting frequencies. Let ARC do all that...make sure these are flat. Now you are ready to work with ARC!



Read the manual really well and the steps it tells you to take, then keep all that in mind and do these steps. This is the best I can tell you about it and what worked for me below.



[style="font-size: 9.8pt"]Here's what you need to do. First, make sure you are using ARC software 1.1 or version 1.1.1. Trust me on this, those versions work better for correction. I'm using 1.1.1 right now but did my corrections using 1.1 and earlier. We have a few issues that are known to IK at this time with the later versions of the software. A few of those issues I have reported myself and am keeping in touch with IK on the situation. But there are no issues with the earlier versions I mentioned as far as doing the correction procedure. You can update to the latest after the correction if you want to. But I stick with 1.1.1 after my corrections.

Next, make sure your mic is set pointing straight up to where it is equal to your nose and ears (get a mirror or have someone else set it) and right in the center for your sweet spot which is placement 1. Set your latency as low as possible and listen to the test tones. If you hear any drop outs, raise the latency samples a little at a time until you have no drop-outs and the lowest latency possible. From there, run the test tones again and make sure the "K" in "OK" is flickering. No louder, no lower. This is important.

Next, and this is SUPER important. Make sure when you tap on the mic that you cannot hear it coming back through the speakers. You must disable input monitoring on your soundcard so that sound can send, yet not be heard. If you don’t know how to do this, neither do I because I use a mixing console, so I have other options that you may not. LOL!

Next, map out all your placements with tape and be as symmetrical as humanly possible. Try to do at least 18-20 symmetrical placements if you can. When you go to do the correction tests, move yourself out of the line of fire for each test burst. It gives you a few seconds to clear the area. That’s all there is to it. Once you get done the correction, do NOT toggle ARC off and on to hear what you had other than a few times when you first start using it. You have to get used to this sound and toggling back and forth will be the death of you. Also, if you don’t have a sub, you may want to get one because it really does help. Just my NS-10’s didn’t work too well with ARC...but once I used my sub and did the corrections, it all worked perfectly. That’s it....good luck! :)

-Danny

Hi Danny. Just wanted to say "thanks for all the info". Never heard of ARC till I just read this thread. And I just noticed the date you posted this. So here we are 3 years later and your posting is still helping folks like me. Thanks

Deisel401rs


Hi Danny. Just wanted to say "thanks for all the info". Never heard of ARC till I just read this thread. And I just noticed the date you posted this. So here we are 3 years later and your posting is still helping folks like me. Thanks

Hey Deisel, you're quite welcome! It's a cool little plug for sure. Yeah I just looked at the date too...and all the views on this! Hahaha kinda made me happy as hopefully I have a thread here that may help several people for years to come. :) Thanks again.

No, currently only 1.3 and beyond will be 64 bit.

M@ B


hmm, what do you suggest i do in regards to what danny has mentioned in post 51 in light of my 32 bit pops and clicks? i purchased arc because it was updated to x64.

excerpt:
"Later versions of ARC will not hold their settings in Sonar. Meaning, you load up a correction, it's there, you see it, it works perfectly. You save that project, close Sonar down, reload the project, press play, and you are uncorrected. Look at ARC in your master bus, the right correction is loaded, but it is not playing back properly. You click on your correction to reload it, and it works. This must be done each time a project is loaded. The fix is to go back to version 1.1.1 and it works perfectly and saves corrections within projects."


does reloading the correction cause it to work properly in the latest X64 version? if so, how long does reloading the correction take?

thanks,
m@

Matt, I can't confirm whether there are any fixes to the 64 bit version as far as holding corrections while saved in a Sonar project. I've not even tested the latest updates and have not heard back from the IK tech since and it appears someone took the liberty to just close my case without even replying back to me. They were supposed to test the plug on a system and get back to me. I opened the support ticket on 7/24/2010. They left me a comment on March 1 saying they would be testing for my issue. I asked if they had tested on March 19, and I see my case has been closed without a response. I'm not about to mess with the fine oiled machine I have right now without a response that my issue has been fixed.
 
Hey Obi, with all due respect (and I know this is not your problem so please don't take this as being directed at you) but I'd be willing to bet I sold a lot of these plugs for IK. As you read this thread, it's obvious that I know what I'm talking about with this plug and have bragged about it everywhere I go, not just this forum. I'm also on your site with a testimonial. I would think that the support guys would maybe take a bit better care your customers especially someone like me who has probably sold more of these plugs for your company than some of your salesmen. LOL!
 
If you get a chance and would like to look into my case or turn it over to someone who cares, I'll gladly give you my case number. The guy that has handled all my issues has always been great in the past. What happened to him this time, I have no clue but I'm very unsatisfied with how this was handled and there was no reason for my case to be closed without proper communication. This has been going on nearly a year and I still don't have any answers. I dig your product, but the support for it needs to improve or I'll have to include that as a "con" for this plug with all the braqgging I've done about it. Sorry to vent, but I just can't believe they would just close my case after I have been pretty patient with this for nearly a year without a proper answer. I've saved it as a pdf document if you'd like it emailed to you so you can see how it was handled. Thanks.

Hi Matt,

Oh no need to apologize man. The post was here for you or anyone else to use if needed. Not a problem at all. The ARC reload takes less than a second. You've seen what the plug looks like, right? There's a drop down menu to the left of it. Your corrections are there. I have several, but you'll probably have one if you just have one set of monitors you'll be using it with. If it doesn't hold your correction, you just have to click the drop down box, select your correction and it's loaded. The same as you'd use a preset in a plug in Sonar.

The problem with this issue is, it will be showing that the correction is loaded yet when you listen to the sound that is playing in your project, you'll know it's your old monitor sound without the correction. It's not supposed to work like that. You're supposed to load ARC up in your master bus, load the correction, go about your mixing, save your project and when you reopen the project, the correction loaded in ARC should be making a difference. But, it isn't on my end unless I reload it with the later versions of the plug. Like I say though, I don't know if this has been fixed with their latest update. The last version that I tried which may have been 1.2 something, failed to save corrections on Win 7 x64 using ANY version of Sonar.

I don't know if I'd worry about the issue you speak of because it's supposed to be a 64 bit version, so you should be ok. I don't know if that will fix the correction thing or not though.

hello ik obi,
can you please clarify these things?
do these issues exist in the new, updated x64 version or is everything good-to-go?
thanks,
matt