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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/17 22:25:40 (permalink)
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Off the top of my head
 
Air Music Technology gives you ( I think a month ) to download your products . Then there is  a fee to start an extended period of time / window for future downloads ( longer than  a month )




I just checked the Air Music Tech links that I received from Plugin Boutique over 6 months ago, and they still seem to be active.  But I have already downloaded everything and archived anyway.  Don't really know how long to expect them to work.  The links all point to various path names at "cdn.inmusicbrands.com/air/..."




That seems to be good news on one level . I remember looking at my receipt at the time of purchase and I saw there was a limited time frame to download all my stuff ...
That purchase tipped the scales at some crazy gigabyte number  ..
I didn't have the best download speed and I had worry's that I would never get my stuff . Downloading all of the contents of my purchase was just like trying to stuff a one hundred forty five pound woman into a one hundred and fifteen pound dress
 
Let's see what happens once the sale is finally over
 
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/17 22:56:29 (permalink)
Does anyone have Spectrasonics Omnisphere?
 
If so, do a backup right now.
 
"To address all the various user needs and scenarios, Spectrasonics has a new Support Services area that offers Alternative Installation USB Drives and Additional Download Installations for optional purchase."

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post edited by Caa2 - 2017/03/18 01:54:35
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/17 23:11:47 (permalink)
IK "taught me" for $10 to download their stuff to a separate drive. I do that for everything now, though I'm gonna have to buy another external drive! LOL
Good luck Dave. I'd talk to Peter, first....

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/17 23:55:17 (permalink)
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Does anyone have Spectrasonics Omnisphere?
 
If so, do a backup right now.
 
"To address all the various user needs and scenarios, Spectrasonics has a new Support Services area that offers Alternative Installation USB Drives and Additional Download Installations for optional purchase."




One of the reasons I didn't buy the 0mnisphere 2 upgrade.......USB drive was a rip off and it was a large d/l that seemed prone to failure at the time IIRC, but subsequent d/l's after the first were subject to charges. 
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/17 23:59:49 (permalink)
Why did you see the USB drive as a rip off?

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 00:08:29 (permalink)
Stuff like this is why cracked software continues to be popular. But you can't blame them. Just look at bank service charges. I think they teach these tactics in business schools.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 00:17:13 (permalink)
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LOL!!! Thanks. that was a Friday flashback for sure, straight out of 1987 or so ...
 
I remember when we hooked up the first T-1 in our office in the mid-80's, and we all stood around and stared at it,  impressed that it could fit the equivalent of 24 analog lines at 56Kbps onto one set of wires.  
 
Good thing that these days we have access to consumer broadband that is typically at least 10 times as fast as a T-1 line.  And on our private networks, our Ethernet is either 100 Mbps or maybe Gigabit, and our Wi-Fi is at least 150-300 Mbps!
 
The content delivery networks that major companies distribute digital content from today, have massive bandwidth pipelines connected to their server clouds.  Bandwidth should not be an issue anymore!

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 01:52:08 (permalink)
Hey, laugh all you want.  I get 4Mbps down on a good day.  THAT is the reason I triple backup large downloads.  It's NOT the $10 6 mos or more from now.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 01:57:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2017/03/18 12:34:08
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IK "taught me" for $10 to download their stuff to a separate drive. I do that for everything now, though I'm gonna have to buy another external drive! LOL
Good luck Dave. I'd talk to Peter, first....


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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 02:30:47 (permalink)
IK is the worst.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 03:57:58 (permalink)
Conchita.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 04:35:40 (permalink)
I don't get these sorts of things. Bandwidth is dirt cheap in general. I get that I use cheap hosting but still I pay 25 bucks a year and have order of magnitude three quarters of a million downloads a year. It just doesn't cost that much.
Of course I wonder the same about VI-control's fundraiserers. What does it cost to run a message board?
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 04:46:57 (permalink)
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never mind


It was a great album back in the day

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Re: . 2017/03/18 04:47:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2017/03/18 14:06:12
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Get out the iron McQ. You're gonna need it for the crinkled spots.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 04:48:55 (permalink)
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IK "taught me" for $10 to download their stuff to a separate drive. I do that for everything now, though I'm gonna have to buy another external drive! LOL
Good luck Dave. I'd talk to Peter, first....


My 2TB raid NAS is nearly full. I just added an 4TB raid NAS.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 05:00:44 (permalink)
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gmon72
I have more software (like many here) than any normal person should have and I can't think of one other company that charges to download the libraries after a set amount of time.



Off the top of my head
 
Air Music Technology gives you ( I think a month ) to download your products . Then there is  a fee to start an extended period of time / window for future downloads ( longer than  a month )
Loop Loft also has a thing where if you exceed a certain number of downloads ... you may have to pay a fee  to require products you had already purchased ...
 
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 I didn't have that issue.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 05:03:19 (permalink)
Redownload costs are one of the many reasons IK is never getting a dime from me ever again. Their business practices are terrible.
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 05:10:46 (permalink)
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Redownload costs are one of the many reasons IK is never getting a dime from me ever again. Their business practices are terrible.




I think the download fee use to be higher like $29.  I remember if you needed to download Kirk Hunter Diamond, you could email and get the links again. Now you just go the your account.  I can download my VSL from their site. EW just keep a copy of the links.  NI you can download everything going back to Komplete 7.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 05:12:30 (permalink)
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I appreciate all the advice about backing up libraries, LOL. I did back everything up! Diligently. Problem is, the thieves stole the external backup drive, too.
 
I had been preparing against hard drive failure, which I'd deemed the most likely threat. I never considering burglary as a possibility, but I do now! The new backup drive gets locked up separately and is never left connected to the computer.




 I remember. Could be worse if you lost an iLok.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 05:27:07 (permalink)
Not to butt in or hijack - but what the *heck* is the point of the iLok dongle? Just so that people can't hack you virtual account and get your licenses without having the physical component? Seems like a lot to go through.....

 
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 05:32:58 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2017/03/18 14:08:21
ILok is for the developers. Everything gets pirated unless it is heavily protected. The dongles are much harder to crack. I'm not an ILok fan, but I do understand the reasons. Shoot even my stuff gets 'pirated' and its free.
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 05:38:09 (permalink)
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gmon72
I have more software (like many here) than any normal person should have and I can't think of one other company that charges to download the libraries after a set amount of time.



Off the top of my head
 
Air Music Technology gives you ( I think a month ) to download your products . Then there is  a fee to start an extended period of time / window for future downloads ( longer than  a month )
Loop Loft also has a thing where if you exceed a certain number of downloads ... you may have to pay a fee  to require products you had already purchased ...
 
Kenny




 I didn't have that issue.




I have never had the issue yet myself because I have never exceeded the 5 download limit / cap per purchase
 
Have you downloaded your any of your Loop Loft purchases more than 5 times yet ? 
 
I posted this e mail , a receipt from an actual  Loop Loft purchase I had made ....
I will save you the trouble of going back to post # 30 in this thread to see my actual receipt
 
I edited this by removing links and certain info
 
Thanks again for purchasing from The Loop Loft!
Use the link(s) below to download your items. The link(s) below are valid until forever or 5 downloads. Please ensure the entire URL is copied to your web browser.
The fetch link was here ....................................................
For answers to questions, please respond to this email. Please include your order number (XX69X) with your inquiry.
It’s been a pleasure doing business with you!
The Loop Loft
Follow us on Facebook and Twitter for the latest news and products:
The two social media site links were here .......................................
 
Now whether they honor this or not ...this is what they state ...
I would love it if I can download the same stuff I bought 10 times ...I'm just not willing to take a chance
 
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 10:59:11 (permalink)
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Why did you see the USB drive as a rip off?



£50 (approx $75 at the time) over and above the cost of the d/l.
 
 
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 11:54:26 (permalink)
Hi. I noticed yesterday when in "Custom Shop" that I needed to re download "The Grid", and was asked to pay 9.99$ to do it.
That's enough for me not to bother doing it just out of principal.
All the best.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 12:42:37 (permalink)
@Zargg
I got that notice a few weeks ago about my expansion library (can't recall which one) had expired and would cost, but it was still there and I had the zip to reinstall it, anyway.
 
When I posted this on the IK forum, I was told only my option to download it for free had expired. That's when I remembered that IK "got" me in the habit of saving all my exe. in 2 other drives.
 
I've come to think of it as "use tax"! LOL
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 14:14:32 (permalink)
@ pentimentosound I hope I have it on one of my external HD's. Otherwise, I'm carrying on without it.
All the best.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 15:36:16 (permalink)

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 16:00:46 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2017/03/18 16:43:51
A note regarding Spectrasonics...if you buy from a third party you'll get your library on a USB drive, but if you buy from Spectrasonics directly it'll be a download. Not only that, the third party's price will usually be $20 or so lower. Pay a little less and your backup's already done. 


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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 16:13:29 (permalink)
davdud101
Not to butt in or hijack - but what the *heck* is the point of the iLok dongle? Just so that people can't hack you virtual account and get your licenses without having the physical component? Seems like a lot to go through.....



I'm in the process of building a new DAW and I'm really trying to approach this from a project management perspective. I am documenting everything I have installed in my existing DAW and making notes as to whether or not I have the installers (I save them to 2 different hard drives) and what I need to address from a license perspective. Honestly, the iLok stuff is the least of my problems (as is Waves since I installed licenses on a USB key) because I just plug the iLok/USB key in the new machine. Plugin Alliance lets you release licenses as does Toontrack, so those should be the next easiest. But I have a lot of software (Ableton Live included) that are nebulous on the number of installs and may require contacting the company. However, I probably won't catch them all ahead of time and will run into issues as they come up.
 
I sort of like how the dongle addresses the licensing for me...
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