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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 17:26:55 (permalink)
"I sort of like how the dongle addresses the licensing for me..."
 
Until the dongle fails
 
I think I like Toontrack's business model better.
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 17:27:05 (permalink)
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A note regarding Spectrasonics...if you buy from a third party you'll get your library on a USB drive, but if you buy from Spectrasonics directly it'll be a download. Not only that, the third party's price will usually be $20 or so lower. Pay a little less and your backup's already done. 




Not (or at least wasn't - admittedly I haven't checked recently) possible to buy the Omni 2 upgrade on USB in UK - d/l + serial number only from re-sellers and then you had to buy the USB direct from SS for approx $75 (at time of release). The only way to get physical media from UK re-sellers was to buy the full version at full version price and not the upgrade price. That's what makes it even more ridiculous IMO. It's not that they didn't have any boxed USBs in UK, just that Spectrasonics wouldn't allow them to be sold at an upgrade price. I lost a lot of respect for them at that point which is a shame because I thought their service was excellent until then. 
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/18 18:58:53 (permalink)
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This is one of my (long list of) business practice complaints
and I've stated it MANY times.  You shouldn't be charged
to "re-download" something you've already purchased...EVER,
by ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.  That's "extortion"...not
customer service....



Excellent point. About a month ago I had a HD crash and lost everything.  Luckily, I had it all backed up.  When I went to reinstall my ST3 libraries that I had made backup copies of  ST3 wouldn't find them, even though I put them in the exact folder as the originals.  So I ponyed up the $10 got new downloads which I had to install.  ST3 found those in the same folder as the copies!!  Now I've got to do the same thing with Miroslav 1 & 2 and Sampletron. 
 
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/19 05:34:38 (permalink)
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...IMO, this is a reasonable step on IKM's part to help alleviate their pipe costs.  If the fee was higher, I might go along with a money grab opinion.  Seems like it's just enough to get the majority to back up their stuff instead of relying on IKM to be the backup...

 
I don't like the idea of paying for downloads, but I can understand why IKM is doing this, i.e. to discourage unnecessary repeated downloading. There seems to be an increasing number of people who automatically associate installing with downloading. They don't see it as two separate processes and don't consider archiving installation files or libraries for later use. Any time they need to reinstall anything, instead of thinking "where did I save it?" they ask "where do I download it?".

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/19 05:36:27 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2017/03/19 13:18:36
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This is one of my (long list of) business practice complaints
and I've stated it MANY times.  You shouldn't be charged
to "re-download" something you've already purchased...EVER,
by ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.  That's "extortion"...not
customer service....





Excellent point. About a month ago I had a HD crash and lost everything.  Luckily, I had it all backed up.  When I went to reinstall my ST3 libraries that I had made backup copies of  ST3 wouldn't find them, even though I put them in the exact folder as the originals.  So I ponyed up the $10 got new downloads which I had to install.  ST3 found those in the same folder as the copies!!  Now I've got to do the same thing with Miroslav 1 & 2 and Sampletron. 
 
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You can tell ST3 where to look for the samples

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/19 17:27:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2017/03/19 18:57:48
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You can tell ST3 where to look for the samples



Can I tell it to look for them on ikmultimedia.com?


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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/19 18:58:25 (permalink)
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You can tell ST3 where to look for the samples



Can I tell it to look for them on ikmultimedia.com?




LOL!
 
Sorry, I know you're having trouble recovering from a really bad situation, but that was funny

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/19 19:20:12 (permalink)
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This is one of my (long list of) business practice complaints
and I've stated it MANY times.  You shouldn't be charged
to "re-download" something you've already purchased...EVER,
by ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.  That's "extortion"...not
customer service....





Excellent point. About a month ago I had a HD crash and lost everything.  Luckily, I had it all backed up.  When I went to reinstall my ST3 libraries that I had made backup copies of  ST3 wouldn't find them, even though I put them in the exact folder as the originals.  So I ponyed up the $10 got new downloads which I had to install.  ST3 found those in the same folder as the copies!!  Now I've got to do the same thing with Miroslav 1 & 2 and Sampletron. 
 
IKM sloagan: "Musicians Eventually"


You can tell ST3 where to look for the samples

I did!!  I pointed to the exact folder they were located in.  No go.  After I installed the new download in the exact same folder it found them.  Weird.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/19 21:11:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby TerraSin 2017/05/27 20:34:04
I can download all of my 50gb games from Steam, Ubisoft, and Origin anytime I want.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/19 22:36:42 (permalink)
Thanks bitflipper!   That was the biggest laugh of the afternoon ...........  I do hope you find a way to regroup ST3
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/03/19 22:43:28 (permalink)
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This is one of my (long list of) business practice complaints
and I've stated it MANY times.  You shouldn't be charged
to "re-download" something you've already purchased...EVER,
by ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.  That's "extortion"...not
customer service....





Excellent point. About a month ago I had a HD crash and lost everything.  Luckily, I had it all backed up.  When I went to reinstall my ST3 libraries that I had made backup copies of  ST3 wouldn't find them, even though I put them in the exact folder as the originals.  So I ponyed up the $10 got new downloads which I had to install.  ST3 found those in the same folder as the copies!!  Now I've got to do the same thing with Miroslav 1 & 2 and Sampletron. 

IKM sloagan: "Musicians Eventually"


You can tell ST3 where to look for the samples

I did!!  I pointed to the exact folder they were located in.  No go.  After I installed the new download in the exact same folder it found them.  Weird.


You might have to tell ST3 to "rebuild" it's database if all you did was copy files.  When you do an install, ST3 "knows" there is new stuff there

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/26 17:47:15 (permalink)
I understand and had a similar situation with Recover My Files (a great program for salvaging files from a failed drive BTW). I had moved it from one machine to another and it wouldn't let me activate it on the new machine. They reset the activation but told me if I need to move it again I'd have to purchase a new key. As far as your laptop being stolen it's a shame things like that happen. I'll bet it was some crackhead who needed drug money. I hope your drive was encrypted. I have 3 laptops in the household that are encrypted with bitlocker and my work laptop is locked down better than Fort Knox!
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/27 01:28:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/27 09:03:59
Just the short list

First, you must purchase the product, and they aren't cheap on intro...
Especially years ago...
Then, if you go beyond a certain point, you must pay again to "download"
Then, if you sell you must pay $19 to transfer (ilok is $25...more if you have to pay the Vendor also)
Then, if you purchase something, they give you "Jampoints" which are good towards
future purchases.  Seems nice...BUT

If you sell the product you purchased....even 10 years down the road, they take the 
Jampoints back...EVEN if you have spent them....which leaves you in "The US Treasury Deficit"
of Jampoints, AND you don't come back out until you have purchased enough products to get enough
Jampoints to ERASE the deficit.

IDK...but that's not good business if you ask me...

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/27 04:50:09 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2017/05/27 09:53:38
Yep, the Spanish Inquisition when you least expect it.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/27 04:53:56 (permalink)
Terrible customer service move on Ik's part. Let me know if you need ST3 files.
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/27 06:05:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2017/05/27 10:58:16
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I have more software (like many here) than any normal person should have and I can't think of one other company that charges to download the libraries after a set amount of time.



Off the top of my head
 
Air Music Technology gives you ( I think a month ) to download your products . Then there is  a fee to start an extended period of time / window for future downloads ( longer than  a month )
Loop Loft also has a thing where if you exceed a certain number of downloads ... you may have to pay a fee  to require products you had already purchased ...
 
Kenny


Kenny, are you sure? I have a Structure 2 installation instructions with download links and they still work. Same is true with Air AEP 3. With LoopLoft I once had exceeded the number of downloads, dropped 'em an e-mail and they reset links for me immediately.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/27 13:07:33 (permalink)
I keep an archive of my installers on an external drive, just in case.  Probably should keep it locked up as well, as Bit's experience demonstrates ...

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/27 19:06:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/05/27 20:10:07
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I keep an archive of my installers on an external drive, just in case.  Probably should keep it locked up as well, as Bit's experience demonstrates ...


I am shopping for a safe, to be bolted to the concrete floor of my garage studio. Good ones are expensive, though. The ones I could afford can be broken into in minutes, as attested by the dozens of YouTube videos showing you how to do it.


In the meantime, my strategy is to never keep my backup drive in the same room as the computer except when actually performing backups. When I went to the Philippines in March I left it with someone so it wouldn't be in the house. My laptop, also being an alternate backup destination, is kept separate from both my primary workstation and my backup drive unless I'm there in the room with them.


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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/27 20:52:08 (permalink)
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I have more software (like many here) than any normal person should have and I can't think of one other company that charges to download the libraries after a set amount of time.



Off the top of my head
 
Air Music Technology gives you ( I think a month ) to download your products . Then there is  a fee to start an extended period of time / window for future downloads ( longer than  a month )
Loop Loft also has a thing where if you exceed a certain number of downloads ... you may have to pay a fee  to require products you had already purchased ...
 
Kenny


Kenny, are you sure? I have a Structure 2 installation instructions with download links and they still work. Same is true with Air AEP 3. With LoopLoft I once had exceeded the number of downloads, dropped 'em an e-mail and they reset links for me immediately.




Yes Dear ...
 
One thing I really like about you is you don't pull any of your punches
 
Hello Alisa  , at this point I'm not sure of anything ...
It looks like you bought yours one at a time . That may play into it.
I bought mine as a whole package ..Air Complete Upgrade after buying the $1 dollar synth ...
FWIW, I have no desire to sit here and spread misinformation ...
If I'm wrong I'm wrong ..I'm a big boy ...I can deal with the consequences .
The thing is I'm only going by what my receipts from my online purchases stated.
All the Air products I bought on sale were done VIA Audio Deluxe during what seemed to be a time sensitive pricing offer.
The offer went on for a few months , disappeared for a while and just came back ...
 
I would love to be able to re-download these products if the need ever arose since I had only placed them on one computer ..my PC which ate one license out of the two I was given  .
 
I had high hopes of taking my other license and placing the whole Air package on my Mac .
My current Mac's OS is non-supported . It is an older Mac and I plan on getting another Mac in the future even if it is used since I like working in OSX . 
 
 
Last night when I saw your post I decided to find out if I could re-download anything from my whole Air purchase.
I went back and found all my info ...everything ...links to downloads, order number, e mail I used and then I brought up the Air link where you place your order number with your e mail so you can download your products ..
MY whole purchase came up MIA after repeated attempts
As I have said I do not want to have to use my second license on my PC , I want to use it on a Mac .
SO Yeah you better believe that in this case I hope I may be wrong and these products can be downloaded again with out a time constraint. 
 
The only thing I didn't do was to go back to the order page on Air's website  and reorder the product with my Audio Deluxe order number from my purchase..
Will that clear the shopping cart to zero for The Air complete purchase price for one to be able to re download ?.
For all I know , that may be the missing key to re downloading the whole product . The thing is I don't know that  since I'm not willing to try that at this point 
When I bought the product , I did save this whole monster of a download in a few safe places ...my only regret was I didn't download the Mac installers at the same time...
 
alright folks , that's my story and I'm sticking to it
 
Kenny
PS Loop loft is the least of my problems I'm not the least bit worried about re getting my stuff if need be ...
 
 
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/27 21:33:19 (permalink)
DISCLAIMER:  This might be the whiskey talking ...
 
IMX, every music software vendor has pros and cons WRT the way they do business.  On balance, *I* believe that IKM has given me a very good ROI.
 
Yeah, the download thing sux.  But so does the PACE virus some other vendors insist I have on my DAW.
 
We each have to decide which models represent a good value and which don't.  Simplez; if you don't like the model, don't buy the software.
 
I triple backup everything I download.  Not because of potential cost, but because my 1890s internet connections makes it a pain to download stuff.  Paying a fee to re-download content is secondary to the time it takes me to do so.
 
When I purchased the IKM TS Max package, I paid extra for the media.  Waiting for downloads at 4Mbps sux.
 
There are PROs and there are CONs.  You have to decide for yourself whether or not it's worth it an on a purchase by purchase basis.
 
Disk space is CHEAP.  bf, I know you have suffered the pain of the unexpected.  The culprit is the thief, not IKM.
 
 
 

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/27 22:12:46 (permalink)
kennywtelejazz
 
Last night when I saw your post I decided to find out if I could re-download anything from my whole Air purchase.
I went back and found all my info ...everything ...links to downloads, order number, e mail I used and then I brought up the Air link where you place your order number with your e mail so you can download your products ..
MY whole purchase came up MIA after repeated attempts
As I have said I do not want to have to use my second license on my PC , I want to use it on a Mac .
SO Yeah you better believe that in this case I hope I may be wrong and these products can be downloaded again with out a time constraint. 
 
The only thing I didn't do was to go back to the order page on Air's website  and reorder the product with my Audio Deluxe order number from my purchase..
Will that clear the shopping cart to zero for The Air complete purchase price for one to be able to re download ?.
For all I know , that may be the missing key to re downloading the whole product . The thing is I don't know that  since I'm not willing to try that at this point 
When I bought the product , I did save this whole monster of a download in a few safe places ...my only regret was I didn't download the Mac installers at the same time...
 
alright folks , that's my story and I'm sticking to it
 
Kenny




Hey Kenny, I have a list of the MAC and PC direct download links for most of these products from inmusicbrands.com.  I bought my bundle from Plugin Boutique and these links are still available in my account.  No signing in required for the downloads, just click the link and go.
 
If you already registered the product license, all you will need is the installer file.
 
PM me if you are interested! 

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/27 22:38:19 (permalink)
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Hey Kenny, I have a list of the MAC and PC direct download links for most of these products from inmusicbrands.com.  I bought my bundle from Plugin Boutique and these links are still available in my account.  No signing in required for the downloads, just click the link and go.
 
If you already registered the product license, all you will need is the installer file.
 
PM me if you are interested! 




I also bought mine form Plugin Boutique. Looks like the restriction Kenny has faced comes from the distributor and not the developer.

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/27 23:18:23 (permalink)
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In the meantime, my strategy is to never keep my backup drive in the same room as the computer except when actually performing backups. When I went to the Philippines in March I left it with someone so it wouldn't be in the house. My laptop, also being an alternate backup destination, is kept separate from both my primary workstation and my backup drive unless I'm there in the room with them.



I'm surprised you are considering investing in an expensive safe when just buying two backup drives is really inexpensive these days (and I'm talking about very fast USB 3 high-capacity units).  Just keep one off-site in another physical structure.
 
I have two drives which I use for fully backing up both my DAW and "office" computers.  What I do is always have the latest one at my neighbor's house.  I do full backups once a month (and, yes, you could easily argue that that is too infrequent) and swap drives right after I've done my monthly full disk backups.  Short of the San Francisco Bay Area becoming a war zone or an large jet airplane crashing and devastating the entire neighborhood, this is plenty of risk-adversity, IMO.
 
But I must give a note of thanks to your burglar, Dave.  Your incident made me get religion and start the practice of off-site storage.  Before that I just kept the backups in an allegedly fireproof filing cabinet.
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/28 00:28:43 (permalink)
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I also bought mine form Plugin Boutique. Looks like the restriction Kenny has faced comes from the distributor and not the developer.


 
That sounds about right!
 
It seems that the Plugin Boutique download links for AIR (inMusic Brands) products go straight to the developer's CDN (content delivery network).  So I assume that is where the AIR website hosts the downloads for all the new customers who purchase direct as well.  So as long as AIR are still selling the product, those links will likely not expire.
 
It does seem odd that the policy would vary by distributor though ... it's not like Audio Deluxe has to host the files...
 
Lesson learned though, in general it pays to keep multiple backups of all your downloads to avoid losing access to your software!  You never know when the plug might be pulled, or if a burglar might show up! 

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/28 03:13:07 (permalink)
Don't laugh, because quite primitive, but any mechanical tech ideas to improve on the design?
 
Have lightly thought about data loss over time and don't want to trust data to a cloud where something else is controlling.
 
Have multiple backups in the place here, but what if the place goes down. Asked the wife to save the cigar box with two multi tera byte backups if possible on the way out.
 
Could send a copy to a relative, but was thinking of this. Old school to the max...
 
Protect the backup data to an external hard drive.
Seal the drive in a plastic zip bag.
Put the zip bag in a wide mouth Mason jar with airtight lid.
Mason jar in a decent Walmart small plastic tool box, sealed against moisture.
Bury the thing in a place away from the structure.
Realize a couple things... Post box would be an alternative if you pay the rent, and this would not work for those in an active acquisition phase.
 
Ideas?
 
John
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/28 03:40:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2017/05/28 08:22:05
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abacab
Hey Kenny, I have a list of the MAC and PC direct download links for most of these products from inmusicbrands.com.  I bought my bundle from Plugin Boutique and these links are still available in my account.  No signing in required for the downloads, just click the link and go.
 
If you already registered the product license, all you will need is the installer file.
 
PM me if you are interested! 




I also bought mine form Plugin Boutique. Looks like the restriction Kenny has faced comes from the distributor and not the developer.




abacab ,
 
Thank you for your generous offer  I'm good for now ..if that changes I will send you a PM 
 
Alisa ,
 
I may have to try Plugin Boutique out in the future ...
 
thanks ,
 
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/28 03:42:06 (permalink)
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Don't laugh, because quite primitive, but any mechanical tech ideas to improve on the design?
 
Have lightly thought about data loss over time and don't want to trust data to a cloud where something else is controlling.
 
Have multiple backups in the place here, but what if the place goes down. Asked the wife to save the cigar box with two multi tera byte backups if possible on the way out.
 
Could send a copy to a relative, but was thinking of this. Old school to the max...
 
Protect the backup data to an external hard drive.
Seal the drive in a plastic zip bag.
Put the zip bag in a wide mouth Mason jar with airtight lid.
Mason jar in a decent Walmart small plastic tool box, sealed against moisture.
Bury the thing in a place away from the structure.
Realize a couple things... Post box would be an alternative if you pay the rent, and this would not work for those in an active acquisition phase.
 
Ideas?
 
John


 
Put backup drive in  a safe deposit box at the bank, maybe?

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/28 04:04:58 (permalink)
You guy's are killing me
Now I'm trying to picture what it would feel like walking into the bank ala Jason Bourne ...
Once inside the safety deposit box and after moving around all the passports , stacks of money and guns ,
is it better to put the hard drives on the top of the box ? or is it better to put them on the bottom of the box
 
Yeah I know get a Life 
 
Kenny
 
 
post edited by kennywtelejazz - 2017/05/28 04:26:23

                   
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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/28 08:31:27 (permalink)
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You guy's are killing me
Now I'm trying to picture what it would feel like walking into the bank ala Jason Bourne ...
Once inside the safety deposit box and after moving around all the passports , stacks of money and guns ,
is it better to put the hard drives on the top of the box ? or is it better to put them on the bottom of the box
 
Yeah I know get a Life 
 
Kenny
 
 


I agree. Since IK is the only vendor (correct me if I'm wrong) that charges a fee to re-activate download access, isn't it more efficient to just pay that fee in an extraordinary emergency case, like burglary, than invest a lot more into an extra HDD that is kept in another place that still might be a subject to another burglary, or fire, or flood?

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Re: IKM, you gotta be kidding... 2017/05/28 11:43:28 (permalink)
Why not have our own server ...cakewalk users and share our files ?

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