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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/20 15:11:05 (permalink)
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Using a combination of  Virtual Audio Cable and VSTHost, everything runs through ARC on my DAW.
Works beautifully!

Even your headphones?
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/20 16:17:59 (permalink)
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Using a combination of  Virtual Audio Cable and VSTHost, everything runs through ARC on my DAW.
Works beautifully!

Even your headphones?


Never tried that. I hardly use headphones.
I use Virtual Audio Cable and VSTHost with my onboard soundcard which is used for everything outside of Sonar.
I use my Motu only with Sonar.


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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/21 11:05:55 (permalink)
Thanks for the head-sup on Winamp! Got it installed last night and with a little effort got ARC working. It's really awesome to be able to listen to all of my music, adjusted for the room.  
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/21 16:51:03 (permalink)
ARC is so crucial that i introduced it as a must buy for my SAE students ......

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/21 20:55:27 (permalink)
How do you use Winamp? What do you do?

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/22 10:33:15 (permalink)
Hi all

I'm considering ARC, everybody seems to be so excited about it.
I can understand when mixing ARC makes a huge difference. However, what about the final result, that is, listening to the final mix without ARC. Any big difference here. (logically yes, but what's your experience here.

Thanks

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/22 11:03:34 (permalink)
Hi jrom, Listening to mixes w/o ARC on a system other than the one you made it on, should be a relatively balanced mix that translates. That's the potential that ARC brings to the table. However, listening back to mixes w/o ARC, in your studio where you made it, will not sound the same. It's a bit confusing and I raised the point in post #20 of this thread and a solution was suggested called Winamp. I don't know how to use it and hopefully someone will describe what you do with it and how signal gets routed through it. HTH.

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/22 11:40:11 (permalink)
M@, winamp is just a media player like Windows Media Player (but it's only audio, not video).  but winamp allows you to use plugins, so you just set up winamp to use ARC as a plugin.

I have not personally done this, so I don't have details on exactly what to do.

I would think that Audacity and Goldwave would also function the same way since you can use VST plugins in those as well, but again, I haven't tried it.  I will likely try some of those options soon and if someone else doesn't report back for the details, I'll report back when I get a chance to work on it.

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/22 15:32:46 (permalink)
M@ thanks for reply. I dont know Winamp, anyway the idea mixing with ARC would be to have a overall general improved sound quality for the listener. In order to test that I understand you need to listen to the final mix outside the studio. Can anybody confirm that part?

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/22 22:13:04 (permalink)
Thanks Beagle, I'll keep my eye on this thread. ----------------- Yes jrom, you are right... Mix with ARC in your studio, export the mix with ARC bypassed, listen to the mix outside of your studio. Playing that mix in your studio will be like bypassing ARC in your DAW.

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/23 18:12:42 (permalink)
I was not able to get it to work with goldwave.  apparently goldwave doesn't use any plugins except its own, I didn't know that.  winamp probably still the way to go.  I have used winamp in the past, but not for a couple of years.

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/23 18:30:45 (permalink)
I'm telling you, try Virtual Audio Cable and VSTHost.


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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/23 19:40:26 (permalink)
FedX should deliver my ARC tomorrow. What do I need to know?


 

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/23 20:38:23 (permalink)
thanks, gustabo, I might try that.

Tim - read the instructions!    there are 2 MAIN things you need to know:

take a LOT of samples for your set up - as many as you can.  I think it wants you to take a dozen or something - take 2X whatever that number is.

2nd thing - don't do like some folks have done and export with ARC ON.  it's not meant to be on during export, it's a tool to help you mix to a flat room, you turn it OFF before export.

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/23 22:27:27 (permalink)
Thanks Reece.,

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/23 23:10:23 (permalink)
Routing :

Master Bus output : headphone 
Master Bus send to a bus ARC (with arc on it ;) , this bus output : Monitors
Bounce or export mixes : simply like always , your master bus ;)

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/24 08:10:32 (permalink)
@beagle, if you need help figuring out how to do the routing, give me a shout.

VAC has a free trial and VSTHost is free so you can try out the combination and see how it works for you.

Once I figured out how it works, I have it running in the tray for my onboard soundcard which is what everything runs through (except for Sonar).

It's a great way to use ARC.


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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/24 13:30:02 (permalink)

Ok, I got it. Not starting off too good though. Lots of questions.

First off, apparently there are 2 versions:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/arc/versions/

One for Pro Tools TDM and one for the rest of the world. The PT is an orange box which is what I got. However, the link above shows both descriptions as being compatible with PC/Mac VST. I'm confused. 
Also, on my box, Sweetwater (or someone else) put a red sticker covering the "TDM" logo on the box to hide it. 
I just don't wanna crack the seal on the software if it's not right. 

uh oh.. The ARC calibration needs my card (which also means my digital mixer) set to 48khz.
I've always worked in 44.1 and if I change, my Digital mixer won't like that (I think).
I can probably set it up to do the calibration. But, Do I have to remain at 48khz to use the ARC system from then on with my mixes?? 
All my tunes are at 24 bit 44.1 khz.

Also:
This might be a stupid question but just so I don't have to think to hard,

Installation instructs as follows:
To ­measure ­your ­room, ­just­ connect ­the ­ARC­ Measurement ­Microphone ­to­ 
any ­phantom­powered ­MIC­ input­ in ­your­ audio ­interface,­puter.­

I use a digital mixer as my front end. I assume I plug into my mixer, yes?
Or, do I have to figure out getting to an analog input on my RME AIO?
Thanks
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/24 14:15:47 (permalink)
Tim - I am not sure if the TDM box will work with Sonar - I bought and received the other version.  probably IK Obi can answer that question for certain, but if it were me in your shoes I wouldn't break the seal until an IK rep said it would work OK.

as far as calibration needing 48k, mine did not - I used 44.1k which is what I always use (I'd like to use 88.2 but a lot of softsynths and plugins don't work correctly at anything higher than 48).

as far as your question about plugging it into your digital mixer or not - I assume you run ADAT or something from the digital mixer to the RME?  if so, there shouldn't be a problem just plugging the mic into the mixer, turning on phantom power and running with it that way.

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/24 14:35:56 (permalink)
Thanks Reece.

Page 17:  
3.1.1  Audio Interface required features
http://download.ikmultimedia.com/html/arc/download/ARC-1.3-User-Manual.pdf



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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/24 14:58:06 (permalink)
Hello timidi, this thread is an oldy but a goody. Should be very informative and really help to get you up to speed with ARC quickly: http://forum.cakewalk.com...?m=1254745&high=IK+ARC

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/24 15:11:43 (permalink)
Thanks M@B..

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/24 17:29:25 (permalink)
I checked out using 48k and as i figured my projects won't play. Embedded in the wavs I guess.
Is there an EZ lossless way to change from 44.1 to 48k? 

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/24 17:29:46 (permalink)
Regarding 44.1 vs 48, I use my MOTU at 44.1 but when I ran the standalone ARC program, it switched the MOTU to 48 for the duration of the readings and switched it back to 44.1 after it was done.


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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/24 19:11:41 (permalink)
Yea Jerome. 
i think I'm getting a little anal on the 44.1 vs the 48. I can run the calibration at 48 and hopefully use the plug at 44.1.

Is that what you do?

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/24 20:28:09 (permalink)
timidi


Yea Jerome. 
i think I'm getting a little anal on the 44.1 vs the 48. I can run the calibration at 48 and hopefully use the plug at 44.1.

Is that what you do?


Yup


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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/24 20:54:40 (permalink)
It's been a long time since I set up my measurements, but I must have done it in 48k as well, but my projects are always in 44.1k

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/24 23:31:00 (permalink)
he can measure at 48 then go back 44 when it's done !

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/25 10:57:44 (permalink)
+1 to above. It says on the back of the box that 48 is measurement only. I have the normal (non TDM box) on the back of mine it says rtas/vst. Maybe the TDM one is because it also supports protools HD accel, whatever that is. It doesnt say that on the normal box. Hope you get it sorted soon!

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Re:IK's ARC is very cool. 2012/03/25 19:05:53 (permalink)
I went to jump on this bandwagon today, but stupid me, I found out you can't use jampoints to purchase ARC.  To be honest I had been saving my jampoints for that last three years toward the much delayed ST3, but my jampoints will expire very soon--in the next couple of months.  So, since I saw the high appraisals given to ARC on this thread, I thought I would pick it up, but when I went to check out it says something like Jampoints are not allowed toward the purchase of this item.  What do you buy with your jampoints when you already have almost all of the IK collection?  Answer, not the ARC.




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