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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/25 19:31:51
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I've never used Winamp. I looked at their site. So, is this a free plug that replaces Windows media player? There is a pro version and a not pro version.
Even though I haven't set up ARC yet, I can understand that I would probably want everything in my studio running thru it. It would be nice to just have it laying somewhere on the audio output.
Anyway, so, How does this work with WinAmp? Is it (WA) always open running in the background? I mean, if you can assign a VST (ARC) to it (Am I correct in assuming that?), Then, doesn't it always have to be open? Or, can you configure WinAmp to just always open and load ARC as it opens?
So far ARC is working wonders for me as I haven't had to go in the studio and listen to anything since I got the box:)
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/25 20:14:04
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WOW. I come back from vacation and see all the IK and ARC love on these boards! Thanks guys, this really is one of my favorite boards to be on! @ Cecelius2 Sorry about the Jam points issue, we don't allow the use of Jam Points on special sale prices. Right now ARC is only $199.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/25 20:46:03
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WOW. I come back from vacation and see all the IK and ARC love on these boards! Thanks guys, this really is one of my favorite boards to be on! @ Cecelius2 Sorry about the Jam points issue, we don't allow the use of Jam Points on special sale prices. Right now ARC is only $199.
An IK rep...........? Cool. Would you mind answering my questions on page 2 of this thread please . Thanks. (RE: I got the orange box (TDM) and I use Sonar on a PC.)
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/26 01:09:23
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Ah, I missed that the first time around. Definitely contact our support and we'll get you the version you need. I'm fairly certain after you register the serial and it authorizes it online you'll be able to download the VST/RTAS versions. Pm me your ticket number and I'll be sure to follow it on my side with the Support Manager.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/26 11:12:37
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Winamp is a music player like iTunes, and it even plays Apple Lossless files (I think that required a separate download). They do have a paid version, but I didn't see any need to get it myself and I'm running the free version. They do allow you to run a single VST on it, so I have ARC running. I can now listen to my entire music library through ARC in the studio - GREAT for reference purposes! It's been really fun to listen to some favorite songs through ARC...
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/26 15:14:27
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I just ordered ARC today (sweet deal at $199) and have a question for all ARC users - When you did the measurement(s) where were you in the room? Should I assume in your chair in the sweet spot and if so, where did you position the mic? Thanks!
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/26 15:25:16
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no the mic is in my posistion ..i go to not interfere with the mesurement
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/26 15:26:58
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BTW there's a number of youtube videos showing the set up procedure.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/26 15:41:26
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The videos I've seen don't tell you much about the details. Such as, What about my body? That's a pretty big sound absorber me thinks., Also, It gives 12 calibration points but they recommend 20, So, where do you do those? And, where are the buttons in the software for 13-20?
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/26 16:01:41
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The calibration tool will enable the Next button at 12, but you can keep clicking the button to do another calibration until you hit 32 (I think). Don't click Next accidentally (like I did) or it will save your calibration settings and you'll have to start over to do more (from the beginning). I would have liked to see an option to keep going when you click Next - it would have saved some time.
I sort of ducked behind the mic stand (and I moved the chair out of the room) because the mic has to go where you sit. I suppose I could have raised the mic stand and used the boom to come down in front of the
chair and left the chair. I might try that...
PS: Do it right and you will be an ARC believer! :)
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/26 18:22:08
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timidi
IK Obi
WOW. I come back from vacation and see all the IK and ARC love on these boards! Thanks guys, this really is one of my favorite boards to be on! @ Cecelius2 Sorry about the Jam points issue, we don't allow the use of Jam Points on special sale prices. Right now ARC is only $199.
An IK rep...........?
Cool.
Would you mind answering my questions on page 2 of this thread please . Thanks.
(RE: I got the orange box (TDM) and I use Sonar on a PC.)
Got the Ticket # and followed up. You should have gotten a response now. :)
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/26 18:40:35
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Thanks James. I went through a practice run and saw the numbers continue.
IK support responded with a new serial# that I used to download the latest ARC zip. Haven't even touched the CD.
Anyway, I'm not having a good install experience. The calibrator worked fine I guess.
But, the plug first of all wouldn't show up (I had a successful authorization).
Scanned the plugs still nothing in 8.53 32 bit. Then I try it in X1, OK, there it is. It shows up in the manager but not in the fx bin ("all" chosen). So, I go look at the properties and "enable as a plug in" is unchecked. Huh. So, I check that. OK, up and running.
Ok, so I move to 64 bit. Same mess there. I couldn't get it to work.
Uninstalled everything. I don't know what to do now.
I do remember the install had a check box for the 64 bit version but it didn't have a size next to it (187kbits or something) as the 32bit and the rtas version did. I guess there is no 64 bit version. That's not right.
And, the authorization manager program gave me some grief in that it said I had the wrong version and directed me to download a new version. Did that.
I'm stumped.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/26 18:49:03
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Please contact our support on the install, I'm sure they'll get it taken care of quickly.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/27 14:52:03
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it's recommended to do at least 20 measurement points or more for the calibration of ARC. I did the 14 that are mapped out in the manual on page 32 here: http://download.ikmultimedia.com/html/arctdm/download/ARC-1.3-User-Manual.pdf the last one is 14. 1 and 14 are singular in their mapping (if that makes sense) . as all the other measurement points are dual/stereo (ie: 2-3, 4-5, 6-7 etc.). Ok, so where do you put the mic for measurement points beyond 14. And, shouldn't 14 then be paired with 15?
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/27 15:05:19
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timidi
it's recommended to do at least 20 measurement points or more for the calibration of ARC.
I did the 14 that are mapped out in the manual on page 32 here:
http://download.ikmultimedia.com/html/arctdm/download/ARC-1.3-User-Manual.pdf
the last one is 14.
1 and 14 are singular in their mapping (if that makes sense) .
as all the other measurement points are dual/stereo (ie: 2-3, 4-5, 6-7 etc.).
Ok, so where do you put the mic for measurement points beyond 14. And, shouldn't 14 then be paired with 15?
You just continue in pairs until the last measurement. Do as many as you can, I'd suggest about 30. P.S. don't know if it was mentioned. Keep trim at '0' Don't use 'speaker delay trimming'.
post edited by carl - 2012/03/27 15:22:27
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/27 16:03:21
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Thanks Carl. So, just anywhere in the sweet spot?
And, change 14 as per the manual to a L/R pair with 15?
And then, 30 would basically be where 14 is in the manual?
I'm assuming you have to get the L/R pairing accurate or you get imbalances and phasing.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/27 16:41:08
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timidi
Thanks Carl. So, just anywhere in the sweet spot?
And, change 14 as per the manual to a L/R pair with 15?
And then, 30 would basically be where 14 is in the manual?
I'm assuming you have to get the L/R pairing accurate or you get imbalances and phasing.
First the sweet spot, then L-R points ( IIRC the last measurement is a single point, not the same sweet spot but somewhere middle / i.e. mono, like the first ). You do need to measure though, either with a plumb-bob or tape measure/ yard stick so the the L-R points are equidistant. Myself I used both a plastic carpet chair mat & an lightweight carpet from home depot using magic marker & duct tape. Some create templates for later use. The points can be also be outside the listening area too, farther back or father side to side L-R but the more measurement points the better.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/27 18:52:48
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Wow! ARC does look great. I use Ozone4 for mastering. Would I use ARC for the mix and the mastering?
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/27 18:54:28
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the drawings in the manual seem to be all within 12" of "the sweet spot"
It sure would be nice if IK was a little more precise other than showing you 14 spots and then saying the rest are up to you. I don't know how the engine works, but I'm assuming that depending where you are in the cycle, L/R is pretty important.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/28 22:13:36
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We would but with different rooms and set ups its a bit harder. We'll look into explaining it better or through video in the future.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/29 14:26:20
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I downloaded Winamp and am sort of petrified to install it. LOL. Yea, I know...
Since my network is usually on and this thing has lots of options for groovy/wonderful (sarcastic) things to be done on the internet, I'm a little concerned.
The install gives a few choices of full, lite, standard, and one other I think.
I couldn't find any reference to which one(s) support VST.
Just wondering if anyone knows if the lite version will allow ARC ?
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/29 21:10:36
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Haven't used WinAmp myself, but my understand was it was a plugin you install after to open ARC with. Not sure which version you'd want, but make sure it allows plug ins.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/29 21:29:50
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carl
P.S. don't know if it was mentioned.
Keep trim at '0'
Don't use 'speaker delay trimming'.
Why ? i use trim to get the same level as without ...and speaker delay ..
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/29 22:39:40
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but make sure it allows plug ins. IK Obi
Haven't used WinAmp myself, but my understand was it was a plugin you install after to open ARC with. Not sure which version you'd want, but make sure it allows plug ins.
that's what I'm trying to figure out.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/29 23:58:23
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Can you use Arc with a sub hooked up?
Regarding Winamp, I can't believe some of you have never used it or heard of it. Winamp is the bomb. It let's you add CD's to the online CD Database, even custom ones you make and give out to people.
It's a 1,000 times better than Windows Media Player, but then again what isn't? :)
You can turn off all the online stuff in Winamp in Options easily. The full blown version, minus the ability to burn CD's and make MP3's, is free.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/30 13:59:36
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timidi
but make sure it allows plug ins.
IK Obi
Haven't used WinAmp myself, but my understand was it was a plugin you install after to open ARC with. Not sure which version you'd want, but make sure it allows plug ins.
that's what I'm trying to figure out.
I had ARC installed but only the 64-bit version. I did not want to install the 32-bit version in case that made me take a return trip through IK's registration hell. I ended up installing 32-bit ARC on an old computer, grabbed the 32-bit dll and copied it onto my music computer and then deleted the ARC install. I found no success in getting ARC to work with WinAmp ... for reasons I can't recall. But another free download media player called FooBar along with another free widget that allows one to host VSTs in FooBar (don't recall the name ... I'm not in front of my music computer) worked like a charm.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/30 19:22:47
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When you download ARC the installer asks 32 or 64 bit. There aren't 2 separate registrations to go through or installers to download.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/31 15:53:37
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When you download ARC the installer asks 32 or 64 bit. There aren't 2 separate registrations to go through or installers to download.
"Better safe than sorry" my grandpappy always used to say.  Seriously though, I've had a number of very frustrating experiences with the registration of IK products. Over the last three years, I've ended up purchasing most of them. While I haven't kept formal records, it feels like I've run into one issue or another about every other time I've tried to register something. You've alluded to exciting things to come from IK in the coming year. I do hope one of them will be a rock solid revamp of the registration software.
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/03/31 19:05:28
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When you download ARC the installer asks 32 or 64 bit. There aren't 2 separate registrations to go through or installers to download.
"Better safe than sorry" my grandpappy always used to say.
Seriously though, I've had a number of very frustrating experiences with the registration of IK products. Over the last three years, I've ended up purchasing most of them. While I haven't kept formal records, it feels like I've run into one issue or another about every other time I've tried to register something.
You've alluded to exciting things to come from IK in the coming year. I do hope one of them will be a rock solid revamp of the registration software.
+1 The authorization process is just rude. Especially with ARC where you pretty much need the hardware to make it work. Speaking of which, can I uninstall the authorization program?
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Re:IK's ARC is very cool.
2012/04/01 13:19:35
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Your more than welcome to, but the next time you need to install new IK software you'll have to reinstall it again to authorize it. We prefer the current registration process to iLok or other authorization management.
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