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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 09:33:29
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Kamikaze
On a whole I agree they do a great job, but I stand by my comment that they do not represent us, we had no say in their appointment.
if you wanted (or want) to be a host, just ask the forums were a mess before cakewalk finally allowed user mods
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 09:46:30
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Kamikaze
we had no say in their appointment.
Actually, you did. A call was put out by the Bakers, in a sticky for all to see, for volunteers because they didn't have the time or staff to continue doing it themselves. Anyone could have applied, some chose to instantly start complaining about it. But everyone had the opportunity. The Bakers chose who they chose from those that showed interest. We're only janitors here anyway. We don't have the usual "powers" that a forum moderator would have.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 10:29:16
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As Karyn states there was an invitation placed as a sticky in the main SONAR forum for registered user help with some of the lower level day to day management of these forums. Again as Karyn states we are only janitors with very few tools available to us for this task much as a building janitor would have.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 11:34:11
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pwalpwal
Kamikaze
On a whole I agree they do a great job, but I stand by my comment that they do not represent us, we had no say in their appointment.
if you wanted (or want) to be a host, just ask
the forums were a mess before cakewalk finally allowed user mods
I'm not saying I did, nor am I denying that overall it was successful and helpful. Karyn
Kamikaze
we had no say in their appointment.
Actually, you did.
A call was put out by the Bakers, in a sticky for all to see, for volunteers because they didn't have the time or staff to continue doing it themselves.
Anyone could have applied, some chose to instantly start complaining about it. But everyone had the opportunity.
The Bakers chose who they chose from those that showed interest.
We're only janitors here anyway. We don't have the usual "powers" that a forum moderator would have.
I saying it was just down to the Baker's who they picked, but we didn't choose, so you don't represent us. As far as power, the host have some weight in discussion, and I seen hosts giving out warnings. when in disagreement, using a tone authority.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 11:40:32
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Kamikaze
As far as power, the host have some weight in discussion, and I seen hosts giving out warnings. when in disagreement, using a tone authority.
It's nice to know that someone thinks I have a tone of authority  Unless you didn't mean me.. 
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 12:37:36
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 15:35:53
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Kamikaze
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Kamikaze
On a whole I agree they do a great job, but I stand by my comment that they do not represent us, we had no say in their appointment.
if you wanted (or want) to be a host, just ask
the forums were a mess before cakewalk finally allowed user mods
I'm not saying I did, nor am I denying that overall it was successful and helpful.
Karyn
Kamikaze
we had no say in their appointment.
Actually, you did.
A call was put out by the Bakers, in a sticky for all to see, for volunteers because they didn't have the time or staff to continue doing it themselves.
Anyone could have applied, some chose to instantly start complaining about it. But everyone had the opportunity.
The Bakers chose who they chose from those that showed interest.
We're only janitors here anyway. We don't have the usual "powers" that a forum moderator would have.
I saying it was just down to the Baker's who they picked, but we didn't choose, so you don't represent us.
As far as power, the host have some weight in discussion, and I seen hosts giving out warnings. when in disagreement, using a tone authority.
It's usaully not a democracy in these decisions the owner of the forum does and should have the last say in the choice of Modetators. In the case of new management it's usually a good idea to start with a clean slate especially if your integrating new products and technologies you may run into conflicting interests by differing agendas and other road blocks related to past differences with the legacy product or personal infighting and conflagrations(in the case of flame wars). Meng has already stated that the Mod's will be kept so arguing this is kinda pointless. I do agree at some point it should be addressed but now is not the time. Give them a chance to get things going and maybe later it can work out where everyone will be able to use a friendly and useful forum.... as close to what it is at the moment.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 15:38:21
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Kamikaze
Karyn
Kamikaze
we had no say in their appointment.
Actually, you did.
I saying it was just down to the Baker's who they picked, but we didn't choose, so you don't represent us. That's right - we didn't have any say in the appointment of the forum hosts. Yes, all registered users had the opportunity to volunteer, but Cakewalk, not registered users, decided who would be the hosts. And even though some users objected to one or more of the hosts, Cakewalk made their choices and stuck with them (at least until it became clear that some hosts were a mistake and those hosts removed). So users didn't have a say in the hosts that were chosen.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 16:19:58
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My 2 cents is similar to others. - Get Gibson to assist you in moving the existing forum to a URL other than *.cakewalk.com (unless your buying that domain name too?).
- Figure out how to "lock" it against new posts, but still allows searching.
- On the "new forum", simply supply a link to wherever you stash the "old" forum - no more no less.
I don't give a big damn if you port over current users. I don't mind registering again. Porting users would most certainly be some sort of custom coded one-time-use utility that someone would have to take the time to construct. Asking people to register again would also "weed out" alot of the "dead wood" in the registered users list. Thanks Meng! You da man! -Dave
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 16:44:25
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davehorch
My 2 cents is similar to others.
- Get Gibson to assist you in moving the existing forum to a URL other than *.cakewalk.com (unless your buying that domain name too?).
- Figure out how to "lock" it against new posts, but still allows searching.
- On the "new forum", simply supply a link to wherever you stash the "old" forum - no more no less.
I don't give a big damn if you port over current users. I don't mind registering again. Porting users would most certainly be some sort of custom coded one-time-use utility that someone would have to take the time to construct. Asking people to register again would also "weed out" alot of the "dead wood" in the registered users list.
Thanks Meng! You da man!
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We need to keep the existing forum archived at 'forum.cakewalk.com' for the simple reason changing that will break thousands of bookmarked topics. A lot of folks have bookmarks, because the search engine is no joy.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 16:57:23
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I love the idea, especially if the search functions are improved.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 16:57:41
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☄ Helpfulby overdub 2018/03/10 10:16:45
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We need to keep the existing forum archived at 'forum.cakewalk.com' for the simple reason changing that will break thousands of bookmarked topics. A lot of folks have bookmarks, because the search engine is no joy.
And no telling how many people still haven't found The News yet and will try to come here for an answer at some point in the future. It'd be nice for them to find a "land mark" to point to the new "Real" forums.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 17:11:41
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☄ Helpfulby overdub 2018/03/10 10:17:37
Of course this probably goes without saying, but wherever the forum goes, make sure there are forwarders on for a good length of time.
The first time Cakewalk moved the forum to the present format, I didn't even know they had a forum anymore-it took quite some time to find this one and my "joined date" made me look like a noob even though I had been on the previous forum for years.
People that visit the forum regularly probably wouldn't have an issue, but those that can go months or a year between visits need to be able to find the new home, IMO.
Thanks for asking!
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 17:17:26
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davehorch
My 2 cents is similar to others.
- Get Gibson to assist you in moving the existing forum to a URL other than *.cakewalk.com (unless your buying that domain name too?).
- Figure out how to "lock" it against new posts, but still allows searching.
- On the "new forum", simply supply a link to wherever you stash the "old" forum - no more no less.
I don't give a big damn if you port over current users. I don't mind registering again. Porting users would most certainly be some sort of custom coded one-time-use utility that someone would have to take the time to construct. Asking people to register again would also "weed out" alot of the "dead wood" in the registered users list.
Thanks Meng! You da man!
-Dave
no disrespect but i'm 100% sure bandlab don't need any "help" from gibson wrt to web stuff
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 19:22:36
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abacab
We need to keep the existing forum archived at 'forum.cakewalk.com' for the simple reason changing that will break thousands of bookmarked topics. A lot of folks have bookmarks, because the search engine is no joy.
Great point, I am the stupid... Hopefully the URL can be saved somehow... -D
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 19:27:50
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davehorch
... Hopefully the URL can be saved somehow...
-D
I believe a URL is relatively inexpensive, so www.cakewalk.com can probably be kept as a forwarder to cakewalk.BandLab.com and forum.cakewalk.com can still come here (where ever here is once this forum is archived). At least for a while.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 23:13:42
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/02 06:41:22
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razor
The first time Cakewalk moved the forum to the present format, I didn't even know they had a forum anymore-it took quite some time to find this one and my "joined date" made me look like a noob even though I had been on the previous forum for years. I didn't think that Cakewalk had a web forum before this one. Unless you are referring to the old newsgroup. And we all had to sign up as new users no matter how long we had been using the newsgroup.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/02 06:57:37
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2018/03/02 14:07:05
I must agree with some replies here - most forums are horrible to navigate, ugly to look at and just plain uninspiring. Right now this forum is my landing page because it's not only valuable but also fun to browse - I'd like to see the new one hold the same aesthetic value.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/02 15:33:47
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☄ Helpfulby overdub 2018/03/10 10:20:00
Must have been the newsgroup then. Point being, it moved without a trace for those who didn't frequent it.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/02 17:31:27
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One of the things I find appealing about the layout of this site is the small avatar and brief info about the poster easily seen after you click on a main header. Clicking on a thread shows even more info on the user and the hardware/software they use.
I notice most forum software has more plain headers with far less description and less information seen about posters.
The use of white gives this forum a nice clean look. The fonts are not crowded. The main feel here is one of openess. Nothing looks or feels crowded. It really is a friendly appealing inviting look as many have said. I would hope we could keep something similar for the sake of familiarity and feel.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/02 18:32:55
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 Meng, to me it sounds like her asking...but that's cool...I'm looking forward to seeing how all this plays out. I can say that I think the reason users preferred the forum and Cakewalks offerings is because they liked them...and too many big changes I think are not a good thing if you want to keep those that haven't already moved on. (and to be honest, I don't think what I've seen of BandLab is where they went ) LOL my avatar may change too. For a little while I reckon. The forum is not why I use Sonar. Never was and won't be so "go with your feelings" gets my vote. Entirely different though when it comes to Sonar...you know what happened to her. Good luck Meng.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/03 23:21:31
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I see no problem with that. As long as the existing content is not lost in the process, migrating not required as you say that would coplicate things, but at least keeping it accessible for reference purposes since it is basically a big help/support/resource container at this point.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/04 16:22:17
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+ 10
Move it, I will follow.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/04 22:44:52
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Invision's good. As is VBulletin. Don't care much for phpBB though -- but you didn't mention it, so no worries.
I think locking/archiving the existing threads in a searchable configuration is probably the best way to go -- least number of hassles for sure.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/06 17:22:34
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Meng, where you go, we will follow.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/06 17:39:51
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I am, however, hoping that in all this info transition that you do have our email addresses so that we may be kept abreast of such movement. That would indeed be a big help in the transition. Thank you.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/07 02:15:05
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☄ Helpfulby 1ManMusic 2018/03/07 03:04:53
I understand wanting a fresh start with a newly branded product and forum. It will be harder for me to identify who has been a member of the community for a long time verses someone trolling with a new account. That will work itself out over time, but there are dynamics such as that which will be lost.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/07 03:03:07
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I am a user since the late 1990s. I have not been much involved before now. However, since so much is happening so fast, and user input is vital, I will be more active.
I have no opinion that is based on usage preferences about moving the forum to a new software platform. I only think it is important that new users as well as -ahem- seasoned users be able to search all fora for solutions.
On another note, I was ecstatic to learn that someone had purchased Cakewalk, and to have the CEO (or a highly trusted surrogate) personally address those of us who have invested time, talent and treasure in making this such a wonderful tool is super-encouraging. By this alone you retain our loyalty.
I agree with what another user said, that in anticipation of a total sunset, I was starting to search for and work with other DAWs. Seeing this news tells me I can continue to build my skillset here to produce the best music possible. Thank you so much for not saying, "my money, my stuff, my way," which was perfectly your right to do.
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Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/07 10:32:17
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