listen
Max Output Level: -79 dBFS
- Total Posts : 593
- Joined: 2008/09/12 06:07:55
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 00:51:45
(permalink)
- Listen - FOH Mixer & Recording Studio Manager Nothing but the grace of God - mggtg. VS 700C - R / CONSOLE 1 / NEVE PORTICO 5017 / TASCAM UH-7000 / SONAR PLATINUM / REASON RECORD 9 / VMP 2 / UREI 7110's / UA LA-610 MkII / AUDIENT ASP 880 / CREATION STATION 450 V 5 WINDOWS 10 / HOME 64 - BIT / SKYLAKE CORE i7 (i7 - 6700, 4 CORES/8 THREADS)
|
GeoffDillon
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1
- Joined: 2017/06/25 18:53:56
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 05:40:01
(permalink)
Cant see an issue with it. But I tend to read more on these than post.
|
Thedoccal
Max Output Level: -85 dBFS
- Total Posts : 290
- Joined: 2014/10/12 16:43:08
- Location: Joshua Tree, CA
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 06:42:27
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2018/02/28 12:36:24
It would be wonderful, if possible, to be able to upload screenshots, photos, directly to the forum instead of having to use image hosting sites. Not a biggie though. Whatever you decide I will work with that.
http://www.catastrophelounge.comThe NeckDive Strap - NEW^^Sonar: Platinum Lifetime/Computer: i7-870, 16GB RAM, AMD R9 380 graphics, Windows 10 (Pro x64)/500gb SSD C:, Barracuda sample(3T) and projects(1T) drives/3 Display Monitors (2&3 split)/Audio Interface: Behringer UFX1604 USB/Firewire/USB Stick/MIDI: Roland A-800Pro, Keystation Pro 88, Roland UM-3G:/Hardware Synths: Korg M3, Yamaha MOX6, Roland TD-8
|
Frank Harvey
Max Output Level: -86 dBFS
- Total Posts : 214
- Joined: 2014/12/30 03:55:56
- Location: Geelong Australia
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 08:47:19
(permalink)
Thedoccal It would be wonderful, if possible, to be able to upload screenshots, photos, directly to the forum instead of having to use image hosting sites. Not a biggie though. Whatever you decide I will work with that.
I’ll second that ..... if feasible 🤔
|
slyman
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
- Total Posts : 194
- Joined: 2015/08/31 13:55:12
- Location: Montreal, QC
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 14:04:51
(permalink)
Thedoccal Move it. I will follow.
+1
Sonar Platinum, Gigabyte H87-HD3, Intel 4770k, 16Mb Ram, Win 10 Pro, RME Babyface Pro, Roland A-Pro 800, Presonus Studio Channel, Kemper Profiling Amp, Strat/Tele/LesPaul/Taylor 214ce/Dean Cadillac/P-Bass
|
LJB
Max Output Level: -60 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1502
- Joined: 2009/07/29 10:31:31
- Location: South Africa
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 14:11:37
(permalink)
Thedoccal It would be wonderful, if possible, to be able to upload screenshots, photos, directly to the forum instead of having to use image hosting sites. Not a biggie though. Whatever you decide I will work with that.
+100
Ludwig Bouwer, One Big Room Studios. -------------------- Cakewalk with all the trimmings / Win 10Pro 64 / Intel i7-7700 / Asus Prime Z270k / 16GB DDR4 / RME HDSP9652 / RME UFX / Black Lion Audio ADA8000 / ART MPA & ART Pro Channel / Focusrite Voicemaster Pro / Aphex 107 Check out my work at www.onebigroom.co.za
|
RobWS
Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
- Total Posts : 84
- Joined: 2013/01/29 10:16:50
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 15:39:56
(permalink)
From my point of view, the Cakewalk Forum format, or layout is very easy to read and follow. Some online forums are so mechanical or clinical looking that they are not very inviting. I am also a beginning Studio One user (in addition to continuing SONAR usage) and their forum layout is not anywhere as nice as this one. I have gotten very little from their forum and have yet to figure out how to post a question. So in summary, I do like the Cakewalk format, although I would agree that searching could use some refining.
|
Atsuko
Max Output Level: -83 dBFS
- Total Posts : 365
- Joined: 2012/09/21 18:17:28
- Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 16:21:43
(permalink)
I'd prefer that the forum kept the same design and contents but, at this point, I accept whatever comes. I'm so happy that Cakewalk was purchased by BandLab. Cheers!
Desktop Intel I7 12GB RAM Win 10 64bit - Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 2nd gen - Roland A-300 PRO - Yamaha HS50M speakers - Sonar Platinum/CbB - Samplitude Pro X3 - Studio One 4 - Melodyne 4 Studio - Ozone 8 Adv - Neutron 2 Adv - RX7 Adv - ARC2 // Notebook Dell I7 8GB RAM Win 10 64bit
|
Mesh
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 27360
- Joined: 2009/11/27 14:08:08
- Location: Online right here!
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 16:24:19
(permalink)
Atsuko I'd prefer that the forum kept the same design and contents but, at this point, I accept whatever comes. I'm so happy that Cakewalk was purchased by BandLab. Cheers!
Me too!!
Platinum Gaming DAW: AsRock Z77 Overclock FormulaI7 3770k @ 4.5GHz : 16GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws X 250GB OS SSD : 3TB HDD : 1TB Sample HDDWin 10 Pro x 64 : NH-D14 CPU Cooler HIS IceQ 2GB HD 7870Focusrite Scarlett 2i4The_Forum_Monkeys
|
shawn@trustmedia.tv
Max Output Level: -54 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2136
- Joined: 2008/12/06 09:41:18
- Location: Hastings, MN
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 16:30:41
(permalink)
If you build it...we will come. -S
Studio SONAR X3. Axiom 25 midi controller, DUNE 2, Producer Content, Good Times, Bandlab Mojo
|
shawn@trustmedia.tv
Max Output Level: -54 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2136
- Joined: 2008/12/06 09:41:18
- Location: Hastings, MN
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 16:31:26
(permalink)
and make it easy to post videos! THANKS! ;)
Studio SONAR X3. Axiom 25 midi controller, DUNE 2, Producer Content, Good Times, Bandlab Mojo
|
stxx
Max Output Level: -82 dBFS
- Total Posts : 406
- Joined: 2010/01/31 17:32:02
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 17:16:55
(permalink)
I would say do whatever is best for Sonar and whatever make your life shepherding this product back to health easier. As users, we will adapt as long as its not a step backwards! Thanks for rescuing the best DAW SW out there!
Sonar Platinum, RME UFX, UAD 2, Waves, Soundtoys, Fronteir Alphatrack, X-Touch as Contl Srfc, , Console 1, Sweetwater Creation Station Quad Core Win 8.1, Mackie 824, KRK RP5, AKG 240 MKII, Samson C-Control, Sennheiser, Blue, AKG, RODE, UA, Grace, Focusrite, Audient, Midas, ART Song Portfolio: https://soundcloud.com/allen-lind/sets/oth-short
|
Phoen1xPJ
Max Output Level: -85 dBFS
- Total Posts : 255
- Joined: 2016/11/03 18:14:22
- Location: Atlanta
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 19:15:33
(permalink)
meng I'm also asking this because for the life of me I can't figure out how to change my avatar photo...
Top right click on User Control Panel then click on Avatar / Profile Photo. :)
Yours With a Song, Phoen1x Wayfarer Station Micro Studio including:*new* Cakewalk by BandLabIntel Core i5 quad core 3.10 GHzASUStek P8B75-M mobo32 GB Mushkin Blackline RAMNVidia GeForce 210 1 GB vid card(2) 1 TB HD & (1) 500 GB HD*new* Win 10 Pro 64 bitEcho Layla 24 PCI audio interface (faster than USB!)Tascam US-224 control surface (with jog/shuttle wheel, impossible to find elsewhere)MIDIMan 2X2 MIDI interface...not bleeding edge but vintage rockin' http://verticalalignment.rocks/
|
WallyG
Max Output Level: -74 dBFS
- Total Posts : 833
- Joined: 2013/05/03 11:37:52
- Location: Arizona
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 19:53:50
(permalink)
Thedoccal It would be wonderful, if possible, to be able to upload screenshots, photos, directly to the forum instead of having to use image hosting sites. Not a biggie though. Whatever you decide I will work with that.
That's a great idea! I wish I had thought of that.... Walt
Roland Jupiter 80, Roland D50, Roland Integra 7, Roland BK-7m, Yamaha Montage 6, ARP Odyssey, Excelsior Continental Artist, Roland FR-8X, 1967 Fender Jaguar, Fender Strat, Fender 1965 Twin Reverb reissue, Selmer Trumpet, Akai EWI, Studio One 4 Professional, Melodyne Studio 4, Behringer X-Touch, RME Fireface UCX, MOTU MIDI Express XT - ADK Pro Audio Hex Xtreme 6 Core i7 4.5GHz, 64GB, 480GB SS, 3 X 3TB Hard Drives, Win 10, 2 X 27" & 1X 46" Monitors, My WEB site - www.gontowski.com/music
|
SuperG
Max Output Level: -63 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1371
- Joined: 2012/10/19 16:09:18
- Location: Edgewood, NM
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 20:25:19
(permalink)
I'm glad the intention is to stick with the Forum/Thread model for the community. It's definitely a better fit than the reddit-style "drive-by" posting. A desktop application is a bigger commitment and needs a tighter community.
|
Kev999
Max Output Level: -36 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3922
- Joined: 2007/05/01 14:22:54
- Location: Victoria, Australia
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 20:30:44
(permalink)
Thedoccal It would be wonderful, if possible, to be able to upload screenshots, photos, directly to the forum instead of having to use image hosting sites...
The pro and cons of this have already been discussed earlier in this thread.
SonarPlatinum∞(22.11.0.111)|Mixbus32C(4.3.19)|DigitalPerformer(9.5.1)|Reaper(5.77)FractalDesign:DefineR5|i7-6850k@4.1GHz|16GB@2666MHz-DDR4|MSI:GamingProCarbonX99a|Matrox:M9148(x2)|UAD2solo(6.5.2)|W7Ult-x64-SP1 Audient:iD22+ASP800|KRK:VXT6|+various-outboard-gear|+guitars&basses, etc. Having fun at work lately
|
Maarkr
Max Output Level: -81 dBFS
- Total Posts : 488
- Joined: 2011/12/10 09:35:33
- Location: Maine
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 20:48:37
(permalink)
yes, thank you for all you are doing Meng, and good luck. If users don't like it, they will post about it, so it can then be 'adjusted.' I think you will find there will be MANY ideas and opinions from this Sonar group about likes, dislikes and requests...
Maarkr Studio: SPALT Lifetime/BL Cakewalk, Studio One 3.5, UAD, Z3ta+2, IKM, NI, Waves, iZotope, Melda, Reaper i7 3770/Giga Z77 mobo, Win10 Pro-64 w16Gb, MOTU Ultralite MK4, Yamaha HS80M wSub, Live: PX-5S, FA-06, Roland Lucina, Epi Les Paul, Ibanez Bass, Amps, e-drums, Zoom R-16... Latest album release, NEW! Counry Classic at http://genemaarkr.bandcamp.com/
|
Bristol_Jonesey
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 16775
- Joined: 2007/10/08 15:41:17
- Location: Bristol, UK
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 21:20:06
(permalink)
Kev999
Thedoccal It would be wonderful, if possible, to be able to upload screenshots, photos, directly to the forum instead of having to use image hosting sites...
The pro and cons of this have already been discussed earlier in this thread.
Must have missed that Kev, what were the cons?
CbB, Platinum, 64 bit throughoutCustom built i7 3930, 32Gb RAM, 2 x 1Tb Internal HDD, 1 x 1TB system SSD (Win 7), 1 x 500Gb system SSD (Win 10), 2 x 1Tb External HDD's, Dual boot Win 7 & Win 10 64 Bit, Saffire Pro 26, ISA One, Adam P11A,
|
Karyn
Ma-Ma
- Total Posts : 9200
- Joined: 2009/01/30 08:03:10
- Location: Lincoln, England.
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 21:33:27
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2018/03/02 19:06:55
Bristol_Jonesey
Kev999
Thedoccal It would be wonderful, if possible, to be able to upload screenshots, photos, directly to the forum instead of having to use image hosting sites...
The pro and cons of this have already been discussed earlier in this thread.
Must have missed that Kev, what were the cons?
To step in here... this was discussed at length between the Bakers and the new Hosts when Hosts were first introduced and the old forum/back end was updated to what we have now. The argument "for" was convenience. The argument "against" was... We are not a hosting company. We don't want to be responsible for users files. Server space costs money. Server space requires maintenance. Legal ramifications of hosting users data. Legal ramifications of hosting users data that may infringe a 3rd party copyright or other laws, etc. There are plenty of easy to use hosting sites already. and a few others along similar lines. This also applied to the possibility of hosting audio files for the Songs Forum as well as general purpose file hosting for forum posts. BandLab may take a different view, they are already a hosting company after all...
Mekashi Futo. Get 10% off all Waves plugins.Current DAW. i7-950, Gigabyte EX58-UD5, 12Gb RAM, 1Tb SSD, 2x2Tb HDD, nVidia GTX 260, Antec 1000W psu, Win7 64bit, Studio 192, Digimax FS, KRK RP8G2, Sonar Platinum
|
telecharge
Max Output Level: -67 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1180
- Joined: 2014/03/31 18:01:17
- Location: Enfuego, Monterey
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 21:41:17
(permalink)
Personally, I would appreciate easier, richer ways of sharing various types of media, but it's not something I'm interested in lobbying for. I'm sure BandLab has bigger fish to fry.
|
Karyn
Ma-Ma
- Total Posts : 9200
- Joined: 2009/01/30 08:03:10
- Location: Lincoln, England.
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 21:43:40
(permalink)
telecharge I'm sure BandLab has bigger fish to fry.
I agree with this 100%
Mekashi Futo. Get 10% off all Waves plugins.Current DAW. i7-950, Gigabyte EX58-UD5, 12Gb RAM, 1Tb SSD, 2x2Tb HDD, nVidia GTX 260, Antec 1000W psu, Win7 64bit, Studio 192, Digimax FS, KRK RP8G2, Sonar Platinum
|
fireberd
Max Output Level: -38 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3704
- Joined: 2008/02/25 14:14:28
- Location: Inverness, FL
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/02/28 22:40:30
(permalink)
"GCSG Productions" Franklin D-10 Pedal Steel Guitar (primary instrument). Nashville Telecaster, Bass, etc. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero M/B, i7 6700K CPU, 16GB Ram, SSD and conventional hard drives, Win 10 Pro and Win 10 Pro Insider Pre-Release Sonar Platinum/CbB. MOTU 896MK3 Hybrid, Tranzport, X-Touch, JBL LSR308 Monitors, Ozone 5, Studio One 4.1 ISRC Registered Member of Nashville based R.O.P.E. Assn.
|
ØSkald
Max Output Level: -66 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1248
- Joined: 2010/12/22 16:52:47
- Location: Norway
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 01:14:06
(permalink)
Will we now get a better way of cooperating online with projects? I mean a better file to send than just WAV files or the CWB. Like a file that is linked to the mother project through internet or something? And that the project is OK in timing and effects gets rendered/freeze, so the other end gets the whole sound?
Asus TUF Z370-Pro Gaming, Bugera Trirec Infinium, Cakewalk Platinum, Corsair RM750 750W, Corsair Vengeance DDR4 4x8GB, Gigabyte GTX 960 2GB, Genelec 6010A with 5040A sub, Ibanez AEG10II BK, Ibanez Iron Label RGIR27E BK, Ibanez Iron Label RGIR28FE BK, Ibanez RG550 RF, Ibanez RG570 FMCS, Ibanez SR506 BM, Intel Core i7 8700K, USB, NI Komplete 11 Ultimate with Kontrol S61, Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe SSD, Samsung SSDs 840 EVO 1TB, Toontrack EZdrummer 2, Toontrack EZMix 2, Toontrack Superior Drummer 3, UA Apollo Twin Duo, Windows 10 Pro
|
Kamikaze
Max Output Level: -45 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3013
- Joined: 2015/01/15 21:38:59
- Location: Da Nang, Vietnam
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 02:07:00
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby abacab 2018/03/01 03:03:34
Thedoccal It would be wonderful, if possible, to be able to upload screenshots, photos, directly to the forum instead of having to use image hosting sites. Not a biggie though. Whatever you decide I will work with that.
I understand why forums don't allow this due to server space, but expand on the value of Thedccal's, here is a post I made with instructions on how to di something I kept seeing being asked. Screen prints really make writing these instructions much easier. This post has a stack of small prints for each step, but they have gone. I've seen this with other posters too. Having them in the forum portects against this. http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3584952
|
abacab
Max Output Level: -30.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4464
- Joined: 2014/12/31 19:34:07
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 03:04:54
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2018/03/01 04:56:30
Kamikaze
Thedoccal It would be wonderful, if possible, to be able to upload screenshots, photos, directly to the forum instead of having to use image hosting sites. Not a biggie though. Whatever you decide I will work with that.
I understand why forums don't allow this due to server space, but expand on the value of Thedccal's, here is a post I made with instructions on how to di something I kept seeing being asked. Screen prints really make writing these instructions much easier. This post has a stack of small prints for each step, but they have gone. I've seen this with other posters too. Having them in the forum portects against this. http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3584952
Definitely a good point! If the forum is to be viewed as a knowledge base as well as a community for discussion.
DAW: CbB; Sonar Platinum, and others ...
|
WallyG
Max Output Level: -74 dBFS
- Total Posts : 833
- Joined: 2013/05/03 11:37:52
- Location: Arizona
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 03:05:55
(permalink)
Thedoccal It would be wonderful, if possible, to be able to upload screenshots, photos, directly to the forum instead of having to use image hosting sites...
Karyn To step in here... this was discussed at length between the Bakers and the new Hosts when Hosts were first introduced and the old forum/back end was updated to what we have now. The argument "for" was convenience. The argument "against" was... We are not a hosting company... BandLab may take a different view, they are already a hosting company after all...
So I guess it was appropriate for me to post 3 days ago requesting this feature to BandLab, as others have since... wallyg "Since for me, this forum is a wealth of knowledge, not only about Sonar, but music recording in general. The main improvement I would like to see is a way of adding photos without having to go through a 3rd party app.
"A picture is worth a thousand mumbles!""
Walt
Roland Jupiter 80, Roland D50, Roland Integra 7, Roland BK-7m, Yamaha Montage 6, ARP Odyssey, Excelsior Continental Artist, Roland FR-8X, 1967 Fender Jaguar, Fender Strat, Fender 1965 Twin Reverb reissue, Selmer Trumpet, Akai EWI, Studio One 4 Professional, Melodyne Studio 4, Behringer X-Touch, RME Fireface UCX, MOTU MIDI Express XT - ADK Pro Audio Hex Xtreme 6 Core i7 4.5GHz, 64GB, 480GB SS, 3 X 3TB Hard Drives, Win 10, 2 X 27" & 1X 46" Monitors, My WEB site - www.gontowski.com/music
|
Unknowen
Max Output Level: -65 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1276
- Joined: 2014/11/07 11:27:09
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 04:37:40
(permalink)
WallyG
Thedoccal It would be wonderful, if possible, to be able to upload screenshots, photos, directly to the forum instead of having to use image hosting sites...
Karyn To step in here... this was discussed at length between the Bakers and the new Hosts when Hosts were first introduced and the old forum/back end was updated to what we have now. The argument "for" was convenience. The argument "against" was... We are not a hosting company... BandLab may take a different view, they are already a hosting company after all...
So I guess it was appropriate for me to post 3 days ago requesting this feature to BandLab, as others have since... wallyg "Since for me, this forum is a wealth of knowledge, not only about Sonar, but music recording in general. The main improvement I would like to see is a way of adding photos without having to go through a 3rd party app.
"A picture is worth a thousand mumbles!""
Walt Just saying... I came across this site today his explains a lot about Cakewalk/SonarIf you read all of it like I did, I think it's a good idea IMO to trash this forum, as I have been placed in the position of having to defend myself many times for a simple view of my truth.... And I'm posting this for the Lab to consider... Don't let the memories of this "Gibson/Cakewalk" forum and it's reputation carry on in any case! Just as I see it... I know we can get buy with out it and I know that many will agree with me, but not in public. lol This last fall only a handful of members where giving real help anyway. I was even offered a job to to create videos and tech help. though I have no idea why. lol We always have to repeat the help we give anyway to the next new member. The new forum needs to be done right this time... no more bashing someone for asking a question that may seem to be "the wrong way to ask" to some.... and no more jumping on people who come for help angry and frustrated because they cant get something to work... That kills the DAW... :( Moving into the future fresh is the Smart move! and not putting former Cakewalk management "in charge" anything is a huge mistake as well... Sorry but true. Someone at Cakewalk drove it into the ground! Life time free updates??? who does that? who gives away new products like the CA-2A to people who already paid almost nothing for a lifetime of updates? How much other stuff came free? when most real users just want want they have to work. I'm as always just calling it as I SEE It.
Hay look, Somethings are not locked in stone... lol 3/18/2019
|
Kamikaze
Max Output Level: -45 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3013
- Joined: 2015/01/15 21:38:59
- Location: Da Nang, Vietnam
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 05:07:35
(permalink)
Karyn To step in here... this was discussed at length between the Bakers and the new Hosts when Hosts were first introduced and the old forum/back end was updated to what we have now.
Why was it discussed with the hosts? Sure the Bakers should either make decision or discuss with the community and make the decision. The hosts don't represent the community.
|
telecharge
Max Output Level: -67 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1180
- Joined: 2014/03/31 18:01:17
- Location: Enfuego, Monterey
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 05:56:35
(permalink)
Kamikaze The hosts don't represent the community.
Perhaps not, but that seems a bit harsh considering they are volunteers. In my experience, the Forum Hosts/Moderators have been a consistent presence here. There's usually at least one around. It seems to me they should have pretty good insight into what is/isn't working. We'll have to wait and see how much influence the community has on the new owners, but this thread is evidence they are willing to consider our input.
|
Kamikaze
Max Output Level: -45 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3013
- Joined: 2015/01/15 21:38:59
- Location: Da Nang, Vietnam
- Status: offline
Re: Important Question! :-)
2018/03/01 06:06:34
(permalink)
On a whole I agree they do a great job, but I stand by my comment that they do not represent us, we had no say in their appointment.
|